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Legal Rights for Filipina Musicians - typical Korean exploit

 
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:47 am    Post subject: Legal Rights for Filipina Musicians - typical Korean exploit Reply with quote

Anyone know any sources for LEGAL RIGHTS FOR FILIPINA MUSICIANS.

If anyone knows Koreans...they have a ROUTINE HABIT of going down to the Philippines....getting professional female musicians, giving them an entertainment visa to play music...and then immediately throw them into a juicy bar against their will as they 'processed their visa' until it gets paid off, etc. All the typical Korean B.S.

Anyone know any LEGAL RIGHTS for Filipina musicians who have this happen to them?
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Guri Guy



Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Human trafficking and human rights violations against foreigners and Koreans is common in South Korea. They also lure young South Korean women to Australia, USA and other countries and take their passport and press them into work in such places.
Morally bankrupt comes to mind. Sad
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Jeff's Cigarettes



Joined: 27 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's a "juicy bar"?
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol...I think most filipinos know what an "entertainment" visa is. I have not heard of filipino band members being forced to work as juicy girls unless it was told to them ahead of time. Some of the bands also have guys and I am sure they are not juicy boys. Take her down to immigration and that should solve the problem. The catholic church also works for the rights of filipinos so that could be another stop.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A prostitution ploy?
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contact Amnesty International. They would know
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sojusucks



Joined: 31 May 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: Legal Rights for Filipina Musicians - typical Korean exp Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
Anyone know any sources for LEGAL RIGHTS FOR FILIPINA MUSICIANS.

If anyone knows Koreans...they have a ROUTINE HABIT of going down to the Philippines....getting professional female musicians, giving them an entertainment visa to play music...and then immediately throw them into a juicy bar against their will as they 'processed their visa' until it gets paid off, etc. All the typical Korean B.S.

Anyone know any LEGAL RIGHTS for Filipina musicians who have this happen to them?


Well, the Filipina probably came over on a visa. Don't hand over your passport, that much is for sure.

Tell them to go to the Seoul Bar Association by Seocho Station. The lawyers would know best. An English translator is available on Mondays from 2-5 pm.

Good luck and I hope this helps.
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sojusucks



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guri Guy wrote:
Human trafficking and human rights violations against foreigners and Koreans is common in South Korea. They also lure young South Korean women to Australia, USA and other countries and take their passport and press them into work in such places.
Morally bankrupt comes to mind. Sad


Yeah, but isn't that mostly done by other Koreans? The same thing happens to Chinese women by Chinese men. I studied Chinese slaving in university.
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Guri Guy



Joined: 07 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans don't discriminate here. They traffick Koreans and non-Koreans alike. Sad
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It definitely happens here. I and a mate rescued a Filipina girl who originally was singing in a 4 piece band in the Pyeongtaek Hotel (the street opposite the main gate at Humphreys and turn left after a block or two.) This was in 2001. She and I got along well. I was staying there (in the hotel) for the summer while I did a TDY at Humphreys. One day she calls me up and says, "I think I'm in trouble." They had moved her down to some city near the southern coast, taken away her passport, and locked her in an apartment with some guy to look over her. Apparently he sat by the door all day long. She said that since they couldn't place her entire band in a new place (apparently a four piece is difficult) they broke it up, and she was going to work in a bar. She understood enough Korean to know that her virginity was going to be sold. She was 23 at the time. I and a mate 'borrowed' a humvee from base, drove down to that city, and while he knocked on the door and asked stupid questions, I scooted her out the back window, sans passport, guitar, suitcase, clothes, toothbrush, everything. We hid her out on Walker for a while, then Henry, Humphreys, and Casey. She had to follow my work schedule.... Eventually we got her hooked up with the Filipino underground in Seoul and she's been working in factories ever since.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
It definitely happens here.

Jesus. That sounds par for the course, but I don't think you could get away with liberating a vehicle that easily these days. I regularly shop at a Filipino store / restaurant that is rumored to be a stop outside of Daegu for their "underground railroad"... If you ever get down the way by Walker, drop me a PM, I'll take you there myself.

A juicy bar (Korean equivalent is a Hostess Bar) is a bar where you can buy the girl a drink and she'll sit and talk with you a while. I learned some Tagalog from one of them off post. Drinks are a mannon. They aren't hooking out this way, neither the Koreans nor the Filipinos nor the USFK allow it. They don't want the heat on.
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bjonothan



Joined: 29 Apr 2003
Location: All over the place

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
It definitely happens here. I and a mate rescued a Filipina girl who originally was singing in a 4 piece band in the Pyeongtaek Hotel (the street opposite the main gate at Humphreys and turn left after a block or two.) This was in 2001. She and I got along well. I was staying there (in the hotel) for the summer while I did a TDY at Humphreys. One day she calls me up and says, "I think I'm in trouble." They had moved her down to some city near the southern coast, taken away her passport, and locked her in an apartment with some guy to look over her. Apparently he sat by the door all day long. She said that since they couldn't place her entire band in a new place (apparently a four piece is difficult) they broke it up, and she was going to work in a bar. She understood enough Korean to know that her virginity was going to be sold. She was 23 at the time. I and a mate 'borrowed' a humvee from base, drove down to that city, and while he knocked on the door and asked stupid questions, I scooted her out the back window, sans passport, guitar, suitcase, clothes, toothbrush, everything. We hid her out on Walker for a while, then Henry, Humphreys, and Casey. She had to follow my work schedule.... Eventually we got her hooked up with the Filipino underground in Seoul and she's been working in factories ever since.


Wow. Well done for doing that for her. What would happen if they caught you keeping her on base? Just out of curiosity.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bjonothan wrote:
Wow. Well done for doing that for her. What would happen if they caught you keeping her on base? Just out of curiosity.

Depends on who caught them.
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Frankly Mr Shankly



Joined: 13 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The one group who as part of the UN who deals with the lot of irregular migrants is the International Organization for Migration (IOM) but I would not hold out much hope of their Seoul office being much help as last time I checked their only program was investigating Koreans trafficked into Japan.
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ZenMoto



Joined: 24 Jan 2008
Location: Seoul / Seocho

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't there an embassy for the Philippines here in Seoul ?.... Or perhaps the US embassy works with the Philippines ?... I would think that would be the first place to go to get a new passport and ask for assistance after being kidnapped in a foreign country ?

It probably depends on whether or not the girl actually wants to go home or if she just doesn't want to be raped.

Good job to the Army guy who got her out of that bad situation... You should have brought a few more friends on your rescue mission and kicked the dude who was guarding her in the nuts a few times... Then you could have got all of her stuff.
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