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ManintheMiddle
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 Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:12 am Post subject: LEFTISTS COULD LEARN A LOT FROM THIS FORMER KLANSMAN |
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One of the most touching video I've seen in a long while. A former Klansmen from South Carolina goes to Washington to meet Congressman John Lewis, who he beat up when the latter tried to enter an all-White area of a local diner nearly half a century ago.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6819133
Lewis has always been a class act and not one given over to slobbering about reparations or a victimhood mentality, unlike Jackson and Sharpton and their ilk. He was also one of MLK's righthand men in the Freedom Riders campaign through the South.
Now in case you missed it, what makes this Klansman worthy of emulation is that he sought forgiveness and believes in redemption (as does Lewis, obviously, both good Baptists).
He was man enough to come to terms with his past, a hatred he no doubt inherited from his own father.
But look at the Leftists like Bill Ayers, who not only refuses to apologize for his reckless bombings during the Vietnam War but says he wishes he'd done more.
The main difference between these two men other than that the former Klansman actually has some spine is that he also has grace, as in he's got religion.
Most Leftists who are former radicals wouldn't deign to admit to any wrongdoing. Humility is not in their vocabulary. For their religion is the cause of social justice, whatever the hell that really means.
Yes, we could all learn a lot from a ill-bred, poorly educated Southern White boy and his former adversary. And of course the North, and the U.K. and Austria and much of Western Europe could learn a lot from the New South, which has done more to put its racist legacy behind it than anywhere else I can think of. Take that, Neil Young. |
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Beeyee
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| I agree, he seems genuinely sorry for his past. As for Lewis, he was also very dignified, much more so than someone like Sharpton or Jackson would be. |
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catman
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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But look at the Leftists like Bill Ayers, who not only refuses to apologize for his reckless bombings during the Vietnam War but says he wishes he'd done more.
The main difference between these two men other than that the former Klansman actually has some spine is that he also has grace, as in he's got religion.
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I consider the main difference is that Ayers was opposing an immoral war while the Klansman was beating up colored folk. Don't see the similarities. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I thought this thread was going to be about David Duke and his adventures in the Republican Party. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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But look at the Leftists like Bill Ayers, who not only refuses to apologize for his reckless bombings during the Vietnam War but says he wishes he'd done more.
The main difference between these two men other than that the former Klansman actually has some spine is that he also has grace, as in he's got religion.
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I consider the main difference is that Ayers was opposing an immoral war while the Klansman was beating up colored folk. Don't see the similarities. |
How many South Vietnamese were killed by North Vietnam? Moral or immoral?
In such a context it is w/o a doubt a fair question to ask. |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
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But look at the Leftists like Bill Ayers, who not only refuses to apologize for his reckless bombings during the Vietnam War but says he wishes he'd done more.
The main difference between these two men other than that the former Klansman actually has some spine is that he also has grace, as in he's got religion.
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I consider the main difference is that Ayers was opposing an immoral war while the Klansman was beating up colored folk. Don't see the similarities. |
How many South Vietnamese were killed by North Vietnam? Moral or immoral?
In such a context it is w/o a doubt a fair question to ask. |
Of course many of the actions of the Viet Cong were immoral.
However, that does not justify dropping 6.5 million tons of bombs and 400,000 tons of napalm on the people of Southeast Asia. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| I thought this thread was going to be about David Duke and his adventures in the Republican Party. |
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ManintheMiddle
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: |
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catman meowed:
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| I consider the main difference is that Ayers was opposing an immoral war while the Klansman was beating up colored folk. Don't see the similarities. |
Actually, you're right but for the wrong reasons, as usual. What Ayers did was arguably worse. Now when you stir from your cat nap, consider this:
Ayers and the other Weatherman members planted bombs that could have killed many people but, luckily for him, they did not.
You're implying that the ends justify the means. By that standard, then, I'm sure you'll agree that the Bush Administration was right in invading Iraq because they wanted to ultimately spread democracy in that region of the world.
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| I thought this thread was going to be about David Duke and his adventures in the Republican Party. |
Cute, but Duke was denounced by Bush and other Republican leaders while Ayers has not been by the Democratic leadership. But don't let me confuse you with the facts.
Checkmate. |
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crazy_arcade
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| catman wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
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But look at the Leftists like Bill Ayers, who not only refuses to apologize for his reckless bombings during the Vietnam War but says he wishes he'd done more.
The main difference between these two men other than that the former Klansman actually has some spine is that he also has grace, as in he's got religion.
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I consider the main difference is that Ayers was opposing an immoral war while the Klansman was beating up colored folk. Don't see the similarities. |
How many South Vietnamese were killed by North Vietnam? Moral or immoral?
In such a context it is w/o a doubt a fair question to ask. |
Of course many of the actions of the Viet Cong were immoral.
However, that does not justify dropping 6.5 million tons of bombs and 400,000 tons of napalm on the people of Southeast Asia. |
How many South Vietnamese were killed by US soldiers?
please... |
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jaykimf
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| Shouldn't your title be: " RACISTS COULD LEARN A LOT FROM THIS FORMER KLANSMAN". You give one example of a racist who has apologized. What about all the other racists who engaged in beatings etc.? Shouldn't they be the ones to learn something from this? Instead you give one example of a former leftist who has not apologized and extrapolate to leftists in general. Couldn't anyone learn something from this? You're a shoddy partisan and a curmudgeon. |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
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| Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:25 am Post subject: |
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So you're saying that 'leftists', all of whom love planting bombs, should be more like this one single member of the KKK who goes to church and feels bad about what he did?
Well, I think right-wingers, all of whom love to discriminate against other ethnicities (because the KKK is right wing), should be more like some leftist guy who doesn't do that. They have so much to learn!!!! |
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RJjr
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:19 am Post subject: |
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| Most Viet Cong were South Vietnamese and most South Vietnamese supported the Viet Cong. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:45 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm. And I thought ole Dave was elected to the Louisiana State Legislature back in the 80's. Must have been wrong. |
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ManintheMiddle
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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YataBoy replied:
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| And I thought ole Dave was elected to the Louisiana State Legislature back in the 80's. Must have been wrong. |
He was, but that's beside the point, as usual.
RJjr declared:
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| Most Viet Cong were South Vietnamese and most South Vietnamese supported the Viet Cong. |
It depends on what stage of the war you're looking at. Earlier on in the conflict the VC didn't. But nice try.
ESL Milkman dribbled from his bib:
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| So you're saying that 'leftists', all of whom love planting bombs, should be more like this one single member of the KKK who goes to church and feels bad about what he did? |
I didn't say all leftists plant bombs. What are you smoking? I am specifically referring to leftists who try to justify killing in the name of a cause. You see, Eric Rudolph, the Atlanta bomber, was just as wrong. The only difference is that Rudolph doesn't try to prop himself up as a noble crusader, nor does he hold a university teaching position.
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| Well, I think right-wingers, all of whom love to discriminate against other ethnicities (because the KKK is right wing), should be more like some leftist guy who doesn't do that. They have so much to learn!!!! |
Now there's a bad generalization. Do you think the Left has a monopoly on eqalitarian ideas? Come, now, you're being either disingenous or naive here.
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| Instead you give one example of a former leftist who has not apologized and extrapolate to leftists in general. Couldn't anyone learn something from this? You're a shoddy partisan and a curmudgeon. |
I used Ayers as an example; I'm not going to enumerate for you. But the fact that so many have rallied behind him from the Left makes them guilty by association. Same with the asswipe Ward Churchill, who even the Indian tribes say is a phony. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| The far left is the same as Klansman. |
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