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CyberGuy
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Al Qaedists, Bathists , Khomeni followers are all fascist bigots who can't be trusted to protect their minorities or govern shame on George Galloway and their suppporters in the west. |
Enough to shut you up:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=galloway+american+c-span+hearing&aq=f
Oh, I remember, you wont shut up, because you want to bury any good post under the massive load of crappy posts by you.
Could you consider lowering the frequency of your crap on this forum? Oh well, you wont, but you might be on a full-time job to do that, who knows? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| CyberGuy wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
Al Qaedists, Bathists , Khomeni followers are all fascist bigots who can't be trusted to protect their minorities or govern shame on George Galloway and their suppporters in the west. |
Enough to shut you up:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=galloway+american+c-span+hearing&aq=f
Oh, I remember, you wont shut up, because you want to bury any good post under the massive load of crappy posts by you.
Could you consider lowering the frequency of your crap on this forum? Oh well, you wont, but you might be on a full-time job to do that, who knows? |
No it is not enough, You left wing fascist scumbag
George Galloway took money from Saddam Hussein.
http://www.gregpalast.com/whats-leftrngalloway-versus-hitchens-progressives-versus-ourselves/ |
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CyberGuy
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea
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CyberGuy
Joined: 27 Dec 2007
Location: Daejeon, Korea
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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BEN GURION (The founding father of Israel):
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| "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122. |
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
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The number is shocking and sobering.
It is at least 10 times greater than most estimates cited in the US media, yet it is based on a scientific study of violent Iraqi deaths caused by the U.S.-led invasion of March 2003.
That study, published in prestigious medical journal The Lancet, estimated that over 600,000 Iraqis had been killed as a result of the invasion as of July 2006. Iraqis have continued to be killed since then. The graphic above provides a rough daily update of this number based on a rate of increase derived from the Iraq Body Count. (See the complete explanation.)
The estimate that over a million Iraqis have died received independent confirmation from a prestigious British polling agency in September 2007. Opinion Research Business estimated that 1.2 million Iraqis have been killed violently since the US-led invasion.
This devastating human toll demands greater recognition. It eclipses the Rwandan genocide and our leaders are directly responsible. Little wonder they do not publicly cite it. |
I wonder the figures of 1.2 to 1.5 million dead iraqis is much bigger than Saddam's killing. Here are two choices:
1- Let saddam rule (as he remained friend of USofA for damn 30 years) and you get few thousand dead Iraqis.
2- Let USofA invade Iraq because God told G.W. Bush to invade Iraq and sprinkle the blessings of "Freedom and Democracy", and you get 1.5 million dead Iraqis.
Which option is better?
Oh, and before you excrete some more bigoted poops out of your mouth, let me clarify that those "jerk insurgents" were at least in control in Saddam's rule that only few thousand killings happened as compared to the "Freedom and Democracy" rampage which made death toll of 1.5 million. Yes, 1,500,000 men, women and children were melted down in USA's invasion in Iraq.
Let the goons hail the friendship of USofA with Saddaam, and let the wise do not forget it:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BUzaXv9uIG8/RsBp-jNsTqI/AAAAAAAAAAM/TnNh5ykZMzI/s400/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| [ while on the other hand throwing crap on the race called Arabs is perfectly fine and even a rewarding act. |
According to the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
"Arab is a cultural and linguistic term. It refers to those who speak Arabic as their first language. Arabs are united by culture and by history. ARABS ARE NOT A RACE"
Capitals are mine.
http://www.adc.org/index.php?id=248
Since it is obvious you don't have the first clue what you are talking about stop humiliating yourself and listen. You just might learn something. |
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Axl Rose
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I find many reasons to support Israel, but in general one can judge a position's worthiness by its opponents and that applies here very much. I'm a genuine Judeaphile, but many of my comrades don't so much as support Israel as oppose those who subject it to endless and absolutely disproportionate criticism (and terrorism) |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| CyberGuy wrote: |
BEN GURION (The founding father of Israel):
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| "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122. |
http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/iraq/iraqdeaths.html
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Ok so .
That doesn't justify what Israel's enemies have done.
The number is shocking and sobering.
It is at least 10 times greater than most estimates cited in the US media, yet it is based on a scientific study of violent Iraqi deaths caused by the U.S.-led invasion of March 2003.
That study, published in prestigious medical journal The Lancet, estimated that over 600,000 Iraqis had been killed as a result of the invasion as of July 2006. Iraqis have continued to be killed since then. The graphic above provides a rough daily update of this number based on a rate of increase derived from the Iraq Body Count. (See the complete explanation.)
The estimate that over a million Iraqis have died received independent confirmation from a prestigious British polling agency in September 2007. Opinion Research Business estimated that 1.2 million Iraqis have been killed violently since the US-led invasion.
This devastating human toll demands greater recognition. It eclipses the Rwandan genocide and our leaders are directly responsible. Little wonder they do not publicly cite it. |
I wonder the figures of 1.2 to 1.5 million dead iraqis is much bigger than Saddam's killing. Here are two choices:
1- Let saddam rule (as he remained friend of USofA for damn 30 years) and you get few thousand dead Iraqis.
2- Let USofA invade Iraq because God told G.W. Bush to invade Iraq and sprinkle the blessings of "Freedom and Democracy", and you get 1.5 million dead Iraqis.
Which option is better?
Oh, and before you excrete some more bigoted poops out of your mouth, let me clarify that those "jerk insurgents" were at least in control in Saddam's rule that only few thousand killings happened as compared to the "Freedom and Democracy" rampage which made death toll of 1.5 million. Yes, 1,500,000 men, women and children were melted down in USA's invasion in Iraq.
Let the goons hail the friendship of USofA with Saddaam, and let the wise do not forget it:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_BUzaXv9uIG8/RsBp-jNsTqI/AAAAAAAAAAM/TnNh5ykZMzI/s400/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg |
Lancet study debunked.
http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/databomb/index.htm
Furthermore it is disingenuous to charge the US for deaths caused by Iraqi insurgents and or Al Qaeda Iraq.
And since Iraqi insurgents were fighting to conquer Iraq cause they could not win elections in Iraq.
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1.2 million debunked
Violent Deaths In Iraq
By Kevin Drum
Sep 14, 2007
(Political Animal) VIOLENT DEATHS IN IRAQ....A British polling company recently surveyed 1,461 adults in Iraq and asked each one, "How many members of your household, if any, have died as a result of the conflict in Iraq since 2003?" Based on the results, they say that 1.2 million Iraqis have died violent deaths in the past four years.
The methodology here is nowhere near as detailed as that of last year's Lancet study, which produced a figure of about 650,000 war-related deaths in three years (and probably would have produced a number of about 1 million if it had been extended into 2007), but at first glance it certainly seems to support the notion that the violence rate has been far higher than usually reported. However, here's a second glance:
According to its findings, nearly one in two households in Baghdad had lost at least one member to war- related violence, and 22% of households nationwide had suffered at least one death. It said 48% of the victims were shot to death and 20% died as a result of car bombs, with other explosions and military bombardments blamed for most of the other fatalities.
Hold on. 20% of the deaths were from car bombs? That's 240,000 deaths. Since the average car bomb kills about 7-8 people, this poll is suggesting there have been nearly 32,000 car bomb attacks in Iraq since 2003.
Roughly speaking, that's 20 car bombs per day, compared to official estimates of 2-3 car bombs per day. And while overall death counts are necessarily fuzzy, car bombs are big public events that usually get reported fairly reliably in the media.
So....I dunno. As I recall, there was a similar criticism of the Lancet study on this particular point, and I'm not sure how it got resolved. I know some of my readers have delved pretty deeply into the Lancet controversy, so maybe they can help out in comments. Overall, though, unless you think that car bombs have been massively underreported, which is harder to believe than it is for death counts in general, this result suggests that household self-reporting of violent deaths in Iraq may be prone to exaggeration.
Alternatively, there are way more car bombs in Iraq than we think. Brrr |
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/14/politics/animal/main3261230.shtml
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least in control in Saddam's rule that only few thousand killings happened |
Saddam killed alot more than only a few thousand. and he would have killed more if the US did not contain him.
Left wing denier.
and what Israel's wrongs do not justify the wrongs of their enemies.
Now take a blow dryer into the bathtub full of water turn it on and make the world a better place. You creepy left wing bigot. |
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man_of_words
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:00 am Post subject: ummm |
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Jeff's Cigarettes
Joined: 27 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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"Israel was today poised for its most right-wing government in decades after Binyamin Netanyahu was asked to be the country�s next Prime Minister. "
This could get interesting. Does Israel actually need our permission, or is it only a polite thing to do? |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Just wanted to chip in and say Greg Palast is awesome. He was the one who first uncovered the Republican voter fraud in Florida in the 2000 election. Surprised to see Joo posting a link to him!  |
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CyberGuy
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