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All of a sudden, "school can't afford you." >:(
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stickybrit



Joined: 06 Jan 2009
Location: Orlando, FL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: All of a sudden, "school can't afford you." >:( Reply with quote

After meticulously picking through contract after contract for months I finally found a school that was to my liking (after some negotiating on the contract as well)- perfect location, pay, hours, age range, housing, etc.

So I signed the contract and then forwarded all of my information to my recruiter a couple weeks ago.

I was supposed to receive my Visa number this week to go to the consulate and get my Visa and fly out within the next two weeks.

But...wait a minute! Instead I got an email from the recruiter saying that the school claimed that due to financial problems, they couldn't take on another teacher until maybe around June or July, but she then forwarded another school to me that didn't match my criteria at ALL.

I want to know if anyone else has had this happen to them. I ask because the way I see it is this...my recruiter had me send all my documents to her and then tells me that the school and conditions I had agreed upon isn't going to work; therefore, now she can use the fact that she already has my documents as leverage for me to settle upon a school that doesn't match my criteria.

What do you think?
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Misera



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: All of a sudden, "school can't afford you." &g Reply with quote

stickybrit wrote:
After meticulously picking through contract after contract for months I finally found a school that was to my liking (after some negotiating on the contract as well)- perfect location, pay, hours, age range, housing, etc.

So I signed the contract and then forwarded all of my information to my recruiter a couple weeks ago.

I was supposed to receive my Visa number this week to go to the consulate and get my Visa and fly out within the next two weeks.

But...wait a minute! Instead I got an email from the recruiter saying that the school claimed that due to financial problems, they couldn't take on another teacher until maybe around June or July, but she then forwarded another school to me that didn't match my criteria at ALL.

I want to know if anyone else has had this happen to them. I ask because the way I see it is this...my recruiter had me send all my documents to her and then tells me that the school and conditions I had agreed upon isn't going to work; therefore, now she can use the fact that she already has my documents as leverage for me to settle upon a school that doesn't match my criteria.

What do you think?


She has all your documents, but not something that'll force you into a contract against your will. Just tell her to keep searching and that you won't accept the new school. If there's certain criteria you want, it will take a while to find a school you're satisfied with. The recruiter isn't going to get the recruitment fee until you agree to go somewhere.
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espoir



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Incheon, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: All of a sudden, "school can't afford you." &a Reply with quote

Misera wrote:
stickybrit wrote:
After meticulously picking through contract after contract for months I finally found a school that was to my liking (after some negotiating on the contract as well)- perfect location, pay, hours, age range, housing, etc.

So I signed the contract and then forwarded all of my information to my recruiter a couple weeks ago.

I was supposed to receive my Visa number this week to go to the consulate and get my Visa and fly out within the next two weeks.

But...wait a minute! Instead I got an email from the recruiter saying that the school claimed that due to financial problems, they couldn't take on another teacher until maybe around June or July, but she then forwarded another school to me that didn't match my criteria at ALL.

I want to know if anyone else has had this happen to them. I ask because the way I see it is this...my recruiter had me send all my documents to her and then tells me that the school and conditions I had agreed upon isn't going to work; therefore, now she can use the fact that she already has my documents as leverage for me to settle upon a school that doesn't match my criteria.

What do you think?


She has all your documents, but not something that'll force you into a contract against your will. Just tell her to keep searching and that you won't accept the new school. If there's certain criteria you want, it will take a while to find a school you're satisfied with. The recruiter isn't going to get the recruitment fee until you agree to go somewhere.


agreed with misera
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stickybrit



Joined: 06 Jan 2009
Location: Orlando, FL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:07 pm    Post subject: Re: All of a sudden, "school can't afford you." &a Reply with quote

[quote="Misera"]
stickybrit wrote:

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She has all your documents, but not something that'll force you into a contract against your will. Just tell her to keep searching and that you won't accept the new school. If there's certain criteria you want, it will take a while to find a school you're satisfied with. The recruiter isn't going to get the recruitment fee until you agree to go somewhere.


I understand. Something just seemed off about how easy it was to have my criteria met and then the timing of their financial crisis. Thanks for your reply!
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berrieh



Joined: 10 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine hagwons are on shaky financial territory now; you might have dodged a bullet by them realizing it sooner rather than later. Or the recruiter might be dodgy.

Personally, if it were me (though I only know anything through research, not experience), I'd work on getting new copies of the docs or ask for them back if you're looking at hagwons. Working with just one recruiter doesn't seem to work for private schools because they all have different jobs available to them. Some of the more "honest" (in my estimation, which is derived solely from reading their reputations here and on other boards and by using my "gut-check" reading) recruiters have even said as much to me so far...

I would definitely want to get my docs back or get new ones in case someone else had something I wanted. I've gotten triplicates of everything (I now have three "original" degrees, a thought that makes me laugh) just in case this happens to me.


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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: All of a sudden, "school can't afford you." &a Reply with quote

[quote="stickybrit"]
Misera wrote:
stickybrit wrote:

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She has all your documents, but not something that'll force you into a contract against your will. Just tell her to keep searching and that you won't accept the new school. If there's certain criteria you want, it will take a while to find a school you're satisfied with. The recruiter isn't going to get the recruitment fee until you agree to go somewhere.


I understand. Something just seemed off about how easy it was to have my criteria met and then the timing of their financial crisis. Thanks for your reply!


Ahhhhh....bait and switch. Confused

Name the recruiter.
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stickybrit



Joined: 06 Jan 2009
Location: Orlando, FL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I don't want to name names just yet. I want to see how the situation is ameliorated first, and if it isn't...well, I'll post it on any board that will take it.

Normally a little deviation wouldn't be an issue. Except I'd already sold my belongings, including my car (well, it was killed by a UPS truck a couple weeks ago, but still...) and I'm hanging at my Mom's house until I leave.

Not the most attractive situation to be stuck in when you're 25 and used to being an independent professional. Know what I'm saying?
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Misera



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Re: All of a sudden, "school can't afford you." &a Reply with quote

Ramen wrote:


Ahhhhh....bait and switch. Confused

Name the recruiter.


yea but better than the, land and find you're going to a completely different city and teaching a different level XD my friend got stuck with that~
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the school started to think that having to meet all your criteria, didn't fit with their criteria.
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sobriquet



Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Location: Nakatomi Plaza

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bait and switch

A favorite of the Kimchistanis
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bobbybigfoot



Joined: 05 May 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: All of a sudden, "school can't afford you." &g Reply with quote

OP, you're from Florida. Take this as a blessing and go elsewhere. Have you seen the exchange rate today? Near 1600:1!
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Bait and switch


That's what I thought too. They say they have three offers. Then, like a magic trick, if you don't pick the school they wanted you to "choose", they make up excuses like "That school just found another teacher" or "That school wants female only".

If that were the case, then they could have said something to begin with. In the end, there was only one school they couldn't get a teacher for, and they are hoping you'll be gullible enought to take it.
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nahanni



Joined: 21 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

could be worse.

after working 1 week my school told me that they can't afford to keep me.

so, i'm now looking for a new job.

anything good out there?
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, I was in a very similar situation. Soon after accepting a job (I'm a newbie) I sent over all my documents, including my original diploma and costly criminal background check. The shipping wasn't cheap either, as you know. Anyways, a few days after the recruiter got my stuff, I was told I was out of luck. The teacher I was set to replace had left early and thus they needed someone quickly. That meant they were going to hire someone already living in Korea and that I was out of a job. I also was sent a new job offer, and like you, this job offer was not comparable to the original.

I immediately started looking for new work, going through new recruiters, as well as ones I had used before and had told I no longer needed there services because of the job I had just accepted. After a bit of polite b!+ching out at the recruiter, I got her to agree to send my documents to whichever recruiter found me a job, or if a suitable job couldn't be found, to send my documents back to me in the US with a refund for the original shipping.

Lesson of the story, well, I dunno. But, you're not alone, OP.
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John_ESL_White



Joined: 12 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

contact your uni and get new transcripts, a new diploma, and get another CRC. And, abandon your recruiter. Post his/her name and let others know to avoid "it".
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