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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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 Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Carl Sagan wrote: |
| I can remember one occasion, taking a shower with my wife while high, in which I had an idea on the origins and invalidities of racism in terms of gaussian distribution curves. I wrote the curves in soap on the shower wall, and went to write the idea down. |
Yup. That sounds like something one might say while high.
Anyways. It is a personal choice. Myself, I prefer beer. Some prefer tobacco or caffeine. We all medicate nearly every day, to some degree. I have a cup of joe in the AM everyday to get going. A close friend of mine (a PhD in nanotech) smokes before bed every night. BFD.
The 'harm' by in large comes from criminalization and the total control over a widely used product given to violent gangs. Prohibition did not work and is not working. It is hugely expensive too, which ought to matter much when the public finances are melting down.
chuvok = blt?? I dunno. I figured bcasper was blt. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
| I think Gopher called it correctly. Chuvok=EFLT |
I don't think so. EFL was American. This guy is not. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Kuros wrote: |
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| I think Gopher called it correctly. Chuvok=EFLT |
I don't think so. EFL was American. This guy is not. |
so he claimed. I always thought he was Canadian personally. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't put him on us. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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fair enough. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Chuvok wrote: |
As someone who has never used marijuana (or any other illegal drug), I think it is class A stupidity to legalise usage.
Marijuana makes people lazy and lethargic!
Do you want a society of useless idiots who'd rather sit at home "toking" instead of doing something with their lives?
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George Soros and his billion plus dollars says hello.
So does Francs Crick (the man primarily responsible for the conception of the DNA).
I say high.....I mean hi as well. Over my last two years of university (when I was high just about every day) I completed my degree with 12 A's and 2 A+'s.
Again, thanks for your expert analysis |
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Tokki1
Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex
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What a ridiculous thread.
Why would you even consider legalizing something that:
1. Could provide jobs
2. Could provide ____illions in tax dollars.
3. Could reduce crime.
4. Could help sick people and people with terminal illnesses.
5. Has never killed anyone.
6. Is a renewable and very useful resource.
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Sorry, very confused.
It seems to me alcohol, cigarettes and prescription pills are the way to go....
Come on!
1. Violence is great. So are blackouts.
2. Jails are better when full of people who can't remember how they got there.
3. Drunk drivers are funny.
4. You can always get a liver transplant.
5. Cancer is great for pharmaceutical industries. So are other ailments those 'hippies' say that pot can help alleviate. Damned hippies!
6. Every ailment can be cured with pills, and addiction to doctor-prescribed medicine is cool.
7. Death is sexy.
8. If you smoke your cigarette with style, you might get laid.
9. Nothing is more lucrative.
Use your head! |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
| I figured bcasper was blt. |
I'd say what I figured the missus for, but I don't want to violate the TOS. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Actually, the this thread should be about RE-legalization.
All of the currently illegal drugs used to be legal. When they were legal the addiction rate was the same as now.
Making them illegal has increase the rates of murder and violent crime but has not reduced use.
This is no surprise to those who understand the economics of drug use. During the failed attempt at Prohibition of Alcohol, consumption of alcohol doubled and production increased 5 fold, organized crime flourished and violence was rampant.
If we were to relegalize all drugs, we could cut the murder rate in half, overnight, and eliminate 2/3 of robberies and thefts. We would defund and end the power of gangs, and save tens billions of dollars annually in costs from: police and DEA agents no longer needed, hundreds of thousands of political prisoners freed from US prisons, hundreds of thousands of innocent Americans no longer subjected to the crimial justice system.
Drug addiction and problems related to use should only be treated as medical problems, just like alcohol and tobacco.
America would be freer, safer and richer if we relegalized all drugs. |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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Mexican drug violence reaches Vancouver, BC.
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Canada Police Link Gang Violence to Mexico Drug War, Globe Says
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By Paul Badertscher
March 4 (Bloomberg) -- Canadian police officials said increased gang-related shootings in the Vancouver area, which have killed nine people, are related to battles between competing Mexican drug cartels, the Globe and Mail said today.
Attacks on drugs gangs in Latin America are squeezing the supply of drugs into Vancouver from Mexico and Colombia, leading to a sharp increase in the price of cocaine, the newspaper reported, citing superintendent Pat Fogarty of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police.
To contact the reporter on this story: Paul Badertscher in Ottawa [email protected].
Last Updated: March 4, 2009 10:19 EST
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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http://www.reason.com/blog/show/132048.html
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| According to Kelly, "millions of people have been arrested, prosecuted, and convicted of marijuana charges on the basis of the Duquenois-Levine (D-L) color chemical test, both with and without a microscopic exam." Experiments with the D-L test described at the end of the report found that "patchouli, spearmint, and eucalyptus tested positive for marijuana, while lavender, cypress, and oregano (which previous studies showed produced false positives with the D-L test) gave inconclusive results." In tests using just the NarcoPouch KN Reagent kit, 33 of 42 substances�including vanilla, anise, chicory, and peppermint�tested positive for cannabis. |
I, for one, am glad that we are containing the threat of patchouli and eucalyptus. But they really need to do something about the oregano junkies down the street. |
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