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Yissvei



Joined: 02 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Apostille on which document Reply with quote

I'm just going to make this short.

I need to send my original diploma + 1 copy to GnB school in Korea.
do i need to get it notarized and obtain an apostille for this document?


this is the list of things i need to send to GnB. am i missing anything?


1. 1 official health record
2. 1 official transcript

3. diploma (original + 1 copy) (apostille???)
4. 1 original criminal record (apostille)


5. photocopy of passport picture/info page
6. 1 copy of resume
7. 3 passport sized photo
8. 1 copy of the contract with my signature


thank you
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're sending these documents to K-land in order to obtain a Certificate of Recognition of Visa Issuance or a Visa Issuance Number, you DO NOT need to send your 'original diploma'. This is most likely a ploy by the recruiter or employer to have something valuable (to you) to hold 'hostage'.... don't fall for it! Send a copy verified by your local Korean embassy/consulate - this does not have to be apostilled; however, your CRC does.

Also, you do not need an 'official health record', but rather 'self-health statements' - don't waste you money going to the doctor for a check-up... you will do that in K-land within 90 days of arrival in order to get your Alien Registration Card.


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Yissvei



Joined: 02 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for taking the time to reply cruise

I don't mind sending my original diploma to Korea because i have decided to go..to work for GnB. beside, it costs me about $45 for the Korean embassy to verify my diploma but only $20 dollar to get a copy of my diploma from the university .


The question is, since i'm sending my original diploma, do i need to obtain the apostille on the copy. For me to get the Apostille at the los angeles branch, I would need to get it notarized first. That would cost me about $36-41 dollar total per document. I'm a little short with cash at the moment.
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Yissvei



Joined: 02 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

regarding the $45 that I mentioned above, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I had the Korean consulte verify my diploma back in 2001 and I think that's what they charged me.maybe i don't remember it correctly.
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok... if you send your original diploma - because it's worth 'less' (monitarily) than a verified copy - it does not have to be apostilled.

I thought an embassy/consulate would verify copies for a couple of dollars/copy... maybe the price has gone up due to the exchange rate? Wink
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yissvei wrote:
The question is, since i'm sending my original diploma, do i need to obtain the apostille on the copy.


This makes no sense... the original is the original - it's not a copy.
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Yissvei



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks again.


cruisemonkey wrote:
Ok... if you send your original diploma - because it's worth 'less' (monitarily) than a verified copy - it does not have to be apostilled.

I thought an embassy/consulate would verify copies for a couple of dollars/copy... maybe the price has gone up due to the exchange rate? Wink
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michaelambling



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need an apostille on the criminal background check; your degree can be either an original or a copy that has been notarized at a Korean embassy.

I gave a notarized copy of my diploma, but my employer said it was no good, so I sent them my degree (at an extra cost of 98 bucks). When I got here, they gave me my degree in its unopened envelope and said, "it turns out we didn't need this."

Like cruise said, don't fall for the trick like I did.
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berrieh



Joined: 10 Feb 2009

PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
If you're sending these documents to K-land in order to obtain a Certificate of Recognition of Visa Issuance or a Visa Issuance Number, you DO NOT need to send your 'original diploma'. This is most likely a ploy by the recruiter or employer to have something valuable (to you) to hold 'hostage'.... don't fall for it! Send a copy verified by your local Korean embassy/consulate - this does not have to be apostilled; however, your CRC does.

Also, you do not need an 'official health record', but rather 'self-health statements' - don't waste you money going to the doctor for a check-up... you will do that in K-land within 90 days of arrival in order to get your Alien Registration Card.


I now have 3 original degrees. My original original was free; each of the others cost $10. Depending on your school, just ordering new originals might be less hassle than worrying about getting decent notarized/apostilled copies.

My school either undercharges for original degrees or overcharges for transcripts because they cost the exact same amount ($10). Pretty much everything at the registrar is the same price. They also notarize anything you want at that office for... you guessed it: $10 (WAY overcharging).
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neko_ohio



Joined: 09 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am supposed to leave in 2 weeks. I have had my criminal background check turned down by Korean Immigration, due to them saying its not a goverment document. Sad It was notarized and apostilled! It was done by a police detective, with WebCheck finger print scan. Issued through the Ohio Attorney General's office. This is what they said:
"I am afraid that your documents have been turned down again. The main issue is with the Criminal Background Check. Korean Immigration has a problem with the lack of a signature by an officer as well as the URL down at the bottom of the page. To them, it looks false despite the notarization. They have never seen any official document with a URL at the bottom, especially something as important as a government document. The lack of an official appearance makes them think anyone could have falsified the report."

The unfortunate thing is our local cities don't offer CRC's and the only way to get a state one in Ohio is through the BCI&I (Attorney General's office) with WebCheck.

I can't get my visa issuance number until the Korean Immigration clears it, and now the interview with the Korean Consulate has to wait. I am having the Attorney General send me a new one without those issues. The AG says that it will NOT have any issues with the SK Immigration, but now I have to get it notarized and apostilled once I receive it. Mad Then send it off to SK by FedEx.


Questions:

Was there an easier way to get this all taken care of?

How long does it take after you get your visa number to get a Web interview with the Korean Cosulate? And your passport back?
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ChinaBoy



Joined: 17 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm... looking at my CRC, it isn't signed by an officer either, just got a big fat rubber stamp on it

I guess I could fake a signature under it if they complain

doesn't have a URL on it at least!
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neko_ohio



Joined: 09 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine has a stamp too, and notary, notary from the county police, and an apostille from the Secretary of State.
So do you think when I get my document straight from the Attorney General's office, they will accept that more easily?
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DJ Clae



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

neko_ohio wrote:
I am supposed to leave in 2 weeks. I have had my criminal background check turned down by Korean Immigration, due to them saying its not a goverment document. Sad It was notarized and apostilled! It was done by a police detective, with WebCheck finger print scan. Issued through the Ohio Attorney General's office.

Find out what government office you can go to to get a real background check, not something printed from the web. It's as easy as googling "ohio criminal background check."
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neko_ohio



Joined: 09 Mar 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't printed from the web, it is a BCI&I criminal background check printed from the Ohio Attorney general's office where they scan my fingerprints and print my results a few days later from a secure site:


http://www.ag.state.oh.us/business/fingerprint/index.asp

In ohio, other than a FBI 16-18weeks to receive, the only option is the BCI&I. Our local police departments do not issue CRC's.

Anyway I am getting the official document from the Attorney General's office. But my other question is:

Arrow How long does it take after you get your visa number to get a Web interview with the Korean Cosulate? And your passport back?
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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

neko_ohio wrote:

Arrow How long does it take after you get your visa number to get a Web interview with the Korean Cosulate? And your passport back?

That depends on the consulate - they're all different.
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