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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: dgf Reply with quote

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jkelly80



Joined: 13 Jun 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I don't know when I can work again. It's part of my culture."

OR: Show them the scene in Goodfellas when Ray Liotta says "Fㅓck you, pay me"
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chevro1et



Joined: 01 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no money, no teachee.
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samcheokguy



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boris the Enforcer's phone number is 010-KICK-K-ASS
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should talk to your district supervisor or rep. There's no excuse for a public school not to have your salary considering the money is earmarked for NSETs. I half expected this to be another collapsing hagwon thread. Oh, and you could always pull the no money, no workie routine. It's only fair.
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LostinKSpace



Joined: 17 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this an afterschool program or a normal 9-5 GEPIK gig? Not that it should really make a difference but the two are funded in a different way.

If it is a normal 9-5 then you contact the people at GEPIK and they will sort it out for you, as money for the FT will have been budgeted for.

Afterschool however is a different ball game, but they are still legally obliged to pay you and if they haven't paid after 10 days you can file with labor, you go to work you get paid it really is that simple and not getting paid in any walk of life is something to take issue with.
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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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drunkenfud



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call GEPIK. Speak to either Ha Rim Lee if you're at an elementary school, or Dain Bae if you're at a middle or high school.
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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PeterDragon



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drunkenfud wrote:
Call GEPIK. Speak to either Ha Rim Lee if you're at an elementary school, or Dain Bae if you're at a middle or high school.


Wow, the responses are coming in faster than I can post back. Can I reach Ha Rim Lee at the general GEPIK line on their website, or is there a different number I should call?

Xuanzang wrote:
You should talk to your district supervisor or rep. .


GEPIK doesn't HAVE district superviors or reps. They're the province that needs them most due to sheer size and population and they JUST. DON'T. HAVE. THEM.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:42 pm    Post subject: Re: "We don't know when we can pay you" Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
I've been working at my new school--- a GEPIK public shcool, since February 25. My contract states that I'm to be paid on the 17th of thw month, next week. They've just informed me that they don't know when they can pay me. "Funding isn't there yet. We'll try to pay you during March. Maybe April. Is it OK?"

Tell them you don't know when you can work.

When I tell them it's not okay they reiterate that there's "no funding yet" and "a lot of paperwork" and refuse to promise any time frame for my first paycheck other than sometime in the next two months. As an aside, why did they hire me if they don't have the money to hire a native speaker? And since when is ANY public school not given the money to hire a native speaker?

Do I have any recourse here? Is there any way they can just take money out of their standing budget to pay me, or do they really need to go through 3 or four levels of approval to get the funds like they claim? (They say the money must first be requested from the MOE, then passed onto the local city hall, then passed onto them, then passed onto me.) How long should I wait past the seventeenth to get paid before I do soemthing? And then what should I do?

It may also be worth mentioning that I didn't apply for this job. I transferred in mid-contract from my previous public school at the request of the Pyeongtaek Educational Office. My previous school had 4 native speakers (due to some shrewed and creative paperwork on the part of their principal), and City Hall felt at least one of them should go to a school that had never had a native speaker. The principal specifially asked me if I'd be up to the task. I said yes. In exchange for the favor I've just done my new school, I'm now working with no guarantee of a paycheck.


Give them a letter of resignation. Seriously this is garbage. Tell them that you will be speaking to GEPIK headquarters and the principal of your old school.

It may be very well true that they have to go through 3 or 4 levels of approval to get the funding...but that's NOT YOUR PROBLEM. That should have all been taken care of BEFORE you started work there.

This shows disorganization and incompetence on the school's part at best.

Your best case scenario is to wait until payday. If you are not paid on that day ask when. If they can not give a suitable answer, take the next workday off and go to either city hall or the education office and get it sorted out.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
You should talk to your district supervisor or rep. There's no excuse for a public school not to have your salary considering the money is earmarked for NSETs. I half expected this to be another collapsing hagwon thread. Oh, and you could always pull the no money, no workie routine. It's only fair.


A "district supervisor"?You really think that'll work?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: "We don't know when we can pay you" Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
PeterDragon wrote:
I've been working at my new school--- a GEPIK public shcool, since February 25. My contract states that I'm to be paid on the 17th of thw month, next week. They've just informed me that they don't know when they can pay me. "Funding isn't there yet. We'll try to pay you during March. Maybe April. Is it OK?"

Tell them you don't know when you can work.

When I tell them it's not okay they reiterate that there's "no funding yet" and "a lot of paperwork" and refuse to promise any time frame for my first paycheck other than sometime in the next two months. As an aside, why did they hire me if they don't have the money to hire a native speaker? And since when is ANY public school not given the money to hire a native speaker?

Do I have any recourse here? Is there any way they can just take money out of their standing budget to pay me, or do they really need to go through 3 or four levels of approval to get the funds like they claim? (They say the money must first be requested from the MOE, then passed onto the local city hall, then passed onto them, then passed onto me.) How long should I wait past the seventeenth to get paid before I do soemthing? And then what should I do?

It may also be worth mentioning that I didn't apply for this job. I transferred in mid-contract from my previous public school at the request of the Pyeongtaek Educational Office. My previous school had 4 native speakers (due to some shrewed and creative paperwork on the part of their principal), and City Hall felt at least one of them should go to a school that had never had a native speaker. The principal specifially asked me if I'd be up to the task. I said yes. In exchange for the favor I've just done my new school, I'm now working with no guarantee of a paycheck.


Give them a letter of resignation. Seriously this is garbage. Tell them that you will be speaking to GEPIK headquarters and the principal of your old school.

It may be very well true that they have to go through 3 or 4 levels of approval to get the funding...but that's NOT YOUR PROBLEM. That should have all been taken care of BEFORE you started work there.

This shows disorganization and incompetence on the school's part at best.

Your best case scenario is to wait until payday. If you are not paid on that day ask when. If they can not give a suitable answer, take the next workday off and go to either city hall or the education office and get it sorted out.


Agreed. They don't want you, for whatever reasons. Go to a better school.
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ryoga013



Joined: 23 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: "We don't know when we can pay you" Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Your best case scenario is to wait until payday. If you are not paid on that day ask when. If they can not give a suitable answer, take the next workday off and go to either city hall or the education office and get it sorted out.
They were supposed to have things organized and ready for your appearance. Failure to do is not keeping up with the contract and so they are breaking it. If they break contract you (should) have legal repercussion to at least inform labor board 10days after payday, but you can always contact GEPIK the day after to tell them that you will not be working and it is not a personal day, it is a business day, you are still working, doing their job in getting the money they need to pay you.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PeterDragon wrote:
Well that's a question--- can I do a walkout without getting fired?

No, you still need to show up. If you don't get paid on the 17th (or whenever your contract payday is), then on the 18th, you show up, sit at your desk, and read a book.
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