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It's OK for Korean landlord to just enter @7AM w/o knocking?
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toonchoon



Joined: 06 Feb 2009
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Here is what a shticky (stick key?) looks like:

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/bassexpander/shtickey.jpg


that's what I have, and it's the only thing that stopped the ajuma landlord from entering my apartment as i was just chillin in my underwear.

i thought about changing one of the locks, so she can never get in again, but whatever.
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SeoulFinn



Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: 1h from Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear that, OP. I'm not sure what I would've done in your situation. I'm not that aggressive guy, but my home is my home. You just don't barge in there like that. Anyway, I think you handled it quite well.

I suggest that you find a new place to live AND change those locks immediately. Make sure that you get all the keys. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but...

My ex told me that, if both of the locks are not locked and someone steals all your stuff while you are away (or at sleep for that matter), the insurance company doesn't have to pay. Is this true? Ask your significant others if you have them. *^^*
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but haven't made an effort to say hi or meet me while I've smiled and anyong haseyo'd a whole lot. Only kids and some teachers accept me and want to interact with me. Passive aggressive xenophobia is norm.

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Even the police have stopped me on foot like 6 times in 2 weeks trying to introduce themselves and practice speaking English and none of them speak yet they're young adults. Police didn't express a dislike, but in a passive aggressive culture, they wouldn't if they didn't like me.

Obviously people are trying to interact with you.
Bide your time and at give the town the finger come June.
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John_ESL_White



Joined: 12 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone enters your apartment without permission, PUSH them OUT!!!!!!!!!!! If you are a female, SPRAY THEM WITH MACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ignore the apologists.

Get a Fing Bat and keep it close by. You never know when some serial killer is coming to kill the waygook. do the percentages on serial Ks here and in the US ... K has a higher rate....
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koreandefence



Joined: 05 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: my god Reply with quote

Has anyone asked a Korean person what the rule or social norm is? Or are all the ESL teachers just talking out their asses again? I guess it is probably the second.
Landlords in Korea can pretty much do as they want. Not saying its fine or ok, just saying that's a fact. But hey lets get the ESL teachers to (f)uck the system and show those damn asians a thing or two. After all we are ESL teachers, we can do what we want also.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John_ESL_White wrote:
...do the percentages on serial Ks here and in the US ... K has a higher rate....


Link?
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:02 am    Post subject: Re: It's OK for Korean landlord to just enter @7AM w/o knock Reply with quote

Korussian wrote:


If my landlord were to key into my apartment unannounced, my steps would be:
1. Go find a locksmith myself and have the locks changed. Keep all the keys. Give the bill to my school & make sure they pay it.

I certainly wouldn't tell them the name of the locksmith who changed my lock!
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Korussian



Joined: 15 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: It's OK for Korean landlord to just enter @7AM w/o knock Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
Korussian wrote:


If my landlord were to key into my apartment unannounced, my steps would be:
1. Go find a locksmith myself and have the locks changed. Keep all the keys. Give the bill to my school & make sure they pay it.

I certainly wouldn't tell them the name of the locksmith who changed my lock!


A very good point! I stand corrected.

Giving the bill to the school would give them the name of the locksmith, and thus an unlimited number of keys into your apartment. You can bet they'll want one or two backups made, and the locksmith will be more than happy to oblige.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: It's OK for Korean landlord to just enter @7AM w/o knock Reply with quote

Robot_Teacher wrote:
Do Korean landlords have every right to intrude on you?
What recourse can I take to ensure it never happens again?
Do you have the right to self defense where you can fight when someone sneaks up on you inside your apartment?

1- No.
2- Change the locks the day you move in.
3- No. Regardless of who starts the fight or whether or not you were defending yourself, whomever gets the wrong end of the fight can sue for piles of blood money.
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michaelambling



Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: It's OK for Korean landlord to just enter @7AM w/o knock Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
3- No. Regardless of who starts the fight or whether or not you were defending yourself, whomever gets the wrong end of the fight can sue for piles of blood money.


Shocked

So, Korea is a paradise for wimps and bullies.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John_ESL_White wrote:
If someone enters your apartment without permission, PUSH them OUT!!!!!!!!!!! If you are a female, SPRAY THEM WITH MACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ladies, please do yourselves a favor and don't spray mace, cap spray, or any other chemical deterrent inside a small, unventilated room. You're going to mace yourself. It's unpleasant.

**The more you know!**
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Teelo



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Wellington, NZ

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread does not deliver pics of you in your underwear, or youtube video of you punching the hell out of your landlord.
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Kimchi Cha Cha



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: was Suncheon, now Brisbane

PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: my god Reply with quote

koreandefence wrote:
Has anyone asked a Korean person what the rule or social norm is? Or are all the ESL teachers just talking out their asses again? I guess it is probably the second.
Landlords in Korea can pretty much do as they want. Not saying its fine or ok, just saying that's a fact. But hey lets get the ESL teachers to (f)uck the system and show those damn asians a thing or two. After all we are ESL teachers, we can do what we want also.


Ah oh! Looks like the cat pissed on someone's kimchi and doenjang-guk this morning ...
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Papa Smurf



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry, but landlords going into your apartment without your permission is the done thing here, foreigner or korean.

i know our landlord does it.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Change the locks. They have to give you notice before coming in to check out the place anyways.
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