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Obama on Leno: because disabled people are funny!
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Kimbop



Joined: 31 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:02 pm    Post subject: Obama on Leno: because disabled people are funny! Reply with quote

Obama used some self-deprecating humor to tell the Tonight Show's audience what a crappy bowler he is. So crappy, in fact, he's about as crappy as a special olympics athlete. Ha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXcgpZwsBPY

Does Kieth Bowlerman think this was funny??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD0EcujFSn8

Oh, but Kimbop is just an anti-socialist rightwing Obama hater! I should lighten up! Because after all; making fun of cripples is OKAY at the in-law's dinner table, OKAY during a job interview, and OKAY for the president to say on national TV! Physically retarded peolple = funny!

http://victorchin.com/2008/05/08/life-and-cerebral-palsy/
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catman



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cartman learned first hand just how good they are.
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ManintheMiddle



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can bet your sweet ass that if any Republican President said as much he would be excoriated. But not Globama and not Hillary, who cracked a racist joke about Hindus working in convenience stores and on and on.

Always the double standard. Obama is showing his sophomoric side which I fear we haven't seen the last of. Kennedy was younger but had more class, even if he was something of a rake with women. Cripes, even Bill Clinton managed to maintain a dignified air in public at least.

But we've now got a president picking NCAA tournament winners (love what the Duke coach said, btw).

Oh, and it's o.k. for Obama to rely on a teleprompter for every talk he gives and nearly walk through a window in the Oval Office in trying to get to the Rose Garden. But when Bush chose the wrong door or committed a non-offensive verbal gaffe he was held up to incessant ridicule by the Left.

The double standard reigns supreme indeed.
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mises



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whiny little girls. Where does this conservative victim complex come from? Do you people actually think you're an oppressed group?
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blade



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mises wrote:
Whiny little girls. Where does this conservative victim complex come from? Do you people actually think you're an oppressed group?

Yes.
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OneWayTraffic



Joined: 14 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With Bush it was the sheer volume of gaffes more than anything.

And children does learn was just damn funny. Admit it.

The only thing I disliked about that was the PC covering up from the whitehouse later. If you're gonna crack jokes about the disabled, then don't let your flunkies back out of it.

And maybe 129 is a pretty poor score for the special olympics. I'd bet there'd be some that could bowl 300.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManintheMiddle wrote:
You can bet your sweet ass that if any Republican President said as much he would be excoriated...


I just had this discussion with a hyperliberal colleague. There simply remain, she asserts, things that "blacks," "women," "homosexuals," "the working-class" and other minorities may say at will and get away with that I as a non-working-class white heterosexual male may never say.

Basically leftists suck on this score. They exceed mere hypocrisy. Either these things are "offensive" or they are not.

So you are exactly right, ManintheMiddle. Had this been a Republican president, the left would have immediately moved to preach-at-us-until-doomsday mode. They would have mocked his or her monumental insensitivity -- and they, especially R. Maddox, K. Olberman, and J. Stewart would have employed biting sarcasm and wit. They would have played the clip again and again. Others would have staged protests. Etc.

How do you think they will handle this...?

In any case, advice to Barack Obama: your self-deprecation routine does not work. Drop it. First the "mutt like me" and now the "Special Olympics" capers. It causes your people to have to follow you and clarify "what you really meant when you said that" more than it provokes humor and laughter. It causes your "Obama-is-the-Messiah!" following to come out and play the smug apologist. Move on to something else when speaking. Spare us this and all that comes with it. Too high-profile.

And oh yeah, I may as well add this dig: inclusiveness indeed.

Timothy Shriver wrote:
Words hurt and words matter. Words can cause pain and result in stereotypes that are unfair and damaging to people with intellectual disabilities. And using "Special Olympics" in a negative or derogatory context can be a humiliating put-down to people with special needs.


Timothy Shriver's Press Release
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManintheMiddle wrote:
You can bet your sweet ass that if any Republican President said as much he would be excoriated. But not Globama and not Hillary, who cracked a racist joke about Hindus working in convenience stores and on and on.


You don't know what you're talking about. Again.
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mises



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ManintheMiddle wrote:
You can bet your sweet ass that if any Republican President said as much he would be excoriated. But not Globama and not Hillary, who cracked a racist joke about Hindus working in convenience stores and on and on.

Always the double standard.


Quote:
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Maria Shriver says President Barack Obama's joke comparing his poor bowling score to that of a Special Olympics athlete was hurtful

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D971UK1O2&show_article=1

As a side, do you actually watch Bill O.? You sit down in front of the TV and waste half hour blocks of your life watching that? Really?
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros: a bit too absolute with that slam. Some kind of ******** [rhymes with "asshole"] lawyer practice, I imagine. ManintheMiddle was in the right administration and clearly in the right ballpark, as I think you know.

________


Mises: she is supporting her brother, no doubt. I do not think that is indicative of the people who would have launched a morality onslaught against, say, W. Bush or D. Cheney had either of them said the same exact words, and said them in the same exact spirit, B. Obama just did. Surely you can see this.

Here is an AP story that MSNBC is currently running...

Quote:
ANN ARBOR, Mich. - The top bowler for the Special Olympics looks forward to meeting President Barack Obama in an alley.

"He bowled a 129. I bowl a 300. I could beat that score easily," Michigan�s Kolan McConiughey told The Associated Press in an interview Friday.

The athletic-minded president made an offhand remark Thursday on "The Tonight Show" comparing his weak bowling to "the Special Olympics or something." He quickly apologized and told the Special Olympics chairman he wants to have some of its athletes visit the White House to bowl or play basketball.

McConiughey, who is mentally disabled, is just the bowler for the job. He's bowled five perfect games since 2005.

The 35-year-old McConiughey has been bowling since he was 8 or 9. His advice for Obama? Practice every day.


Do you think the media would have cut W. Bush or D. Cheney this kind of slack had they made "the athletic-president's offhand remark?" (I just love that they insist on writing it apologetically -- with anyone other than the Messiah, it would likely have been "the insensitive remark" or something similar. By the way, where is J. Stewart? Is he not interested in journalistic sincerity? Should he not be speaking up about this, lecturing someone...?)


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Kuros



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Kuros: a bit too absolute with that slam. Some kind of ******** [rhymes with "asshole"] lawyer practice, I imagine. ManintheMiddle was in the right ballpark, as I think you know.


MiM finds enough fault with the Clintons that he need not impute Biden's incidents to them.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He is rather consumed by antiClinton biases.
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mises



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mises: she is supporting her brother, no doubt. I do not think that is indicative of the people who would have launched a morality onslaught against, say, W. Bush or D. Cheney had either of them said the same exact words, and said them in the same exact spirit, B. Obama just did. Surely you can see this.


The right-wing media obsesses about the bias in the left-wing media, who obsesses about the bias in the right-wing media. If you want to find a double standard, you can.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finaly, Mises. Yes, exactly.

Seen this...?

Quote:
Even in the annals of media, President [B.] Obama's appearance on "The Tonight Show With Jay Leno" on Thursday night isn't likely to be remembered as a watershed moment.

And in the short run -- well, a run whose distance is yet impossible to measure -- it is liable to be most newsworthy for a remark made in a clumsy attempt at humor. More on that later...

Politics may make room for the occasional actor, but it's best to leave comedy to the professionals.


LA Times
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ED209



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
By the way, where is J. Stewart? Is he not interested in journalistic sincerity? Should he not be speaking up about this, lecturing someone...?)


His show only goes out on Mon-Thurs(this event having happened on Thur night), so any response would have to wait till next week. Unless you're expecting him to sign in here.
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