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ManintheMiddle
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:43 am Post subject: MURDOCH TELLS IT LIKE IT IS: The Jewish in All of Us |
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I couldn't agree with him more. Too bad this speech won't see the light of day in most of the mainstream Western media, cowed and colluding as it most certainly is. But maybe some Hamas apologist here will make note of it.
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I am not Jewish but...
Mar. 19, 2009
RUPERT MURDOCH , THE JERUSALEM POST
Over the years, some of my wildest critics seem to have assumed I am Jewish. At the same time, some of my closest friends wish I were.
So let me set the record straight: I live in New York. I have a wife who craves Chinese food. And people I trust tell me I practically invented the word "chutzpah."
Ladies and gentleman, I am humbled by the honor you have given me - because this award speaks more to your good work than it does to mine.
The American Jewish Committee started in response to the persecution of Jews in czarist Russia. And your response took a very American form: an organization that would speak up for those who could not speak for themselves.
In the century since your founding, the American Jewish Committee has become one of the world's most influential organizations. Yet though your concerns begin with the safety and welfare of Jews, these concerns are anything but parochial. The reason for this is clear: You know that the best guarantee of the security of Jews anywhere is the freedom of people everywhere.
Your good work has helped bring real and lasting changes to our world. Unfortunately, while some threats have been defeated, new ones have taken their place. And these new threats remind us the AJC's work is more vital than ever.
In Europe, men and woman who bear the tattoos of concentration camps today look out on a continent where Jewish lives and Jewish property are under attack - and public debate is poisoned by an anti-Semitism we thought had been dispatched to history's dustbin.
In Iran, we see a regime that backs Hizbullah and Hamas now on course to acquire a nuclear weapon.
In India, we see Islamic terrorists single out the Mumbai Jewish Center in a well-planned and well-coordinated attack that looks like it could be a test run for similar attacks in similar cities around the world.
MOST FUNDAMENTALLY, we see a growing assault on both the legitimacy and security of the State of Israel.
This assault comes from people who make clear they have no intention of ever living side-by-side in peace with a Jewish state - no matter how many concessions Israel might make. The reason for this is also clear: These are men who cannot abide the idea of freedom, tolerance and democracy. They hate Israel for the same reasons they hate us.
As I speak, the flashpoint is Gaza. For months now, Hamas has been raining down rockets on Israeli civilians. Like all terrorist attacks, the aim is to spread fear within free societies, and to paralyze its leaders. This Israel cannot afford. I do not need to tell anyone in this room that no sovereign nation can sit by while its civilian population is attacked.
Hamas knows this better than we do. And Hamas understands something else as well: In the 21st century, when democratic states respond to terrorist attacks, they face two terrible handicaps.
THE FIRST HANDICAP is military. It's true that Israel's conventional superiority means it could flatten Gaza if it wanted. But the Israel Defense Forces - unlike Hamas - are accountable to a democratically chosen government.
No matter which party is in the majority, every Israeli government knows it will be held accountable by its people and by the world for the lives that are lost because of its decisions. That's true for lives of innocent Palestinians caught in the crossfire. And it's also true for the Israeli soldiers who may lose their lives defending their people.
In this kind of war, Hamas does not need to defeat Israel militarily to win a big victory. In fact, Hamas knows that in some ways, dead Palestinians serve its purposes even better than dead Israelis.
In the West we look at this and say, "It makes no sense." But it does make sense.
If you are committed to Israel's destruction, and if you believe that dead Palestinians help you score a propaganda victory, you do things like launch rockets from a Palestinian schoolyard. This ensures that when the Israelis do respond, it will likely lead to the death of an innocent Palestinian - no matter how many precautions Israeli soldiers take.
Hamas gets away with this, moreover, because it does not rule Gaza by the consent of those it claims to represent. It rules by fear and intimidation. It is accountable to no one but itself.
This is the chilling logic of Gaza. And it helps explain why even a strong military power like Israel can find itself at a disadvantage on the ground.
THE SECOND HANDICAP for Israel is the global media war. For Hamas, the images of Palestinian suffering - of people losing their homes, of parents mourning their dead children, of tanks rolling through the streets - create sympathy for its cause.
In a battle marked by street to street fighting, the death of innocents is all but inevitable. That is also true of Gaza. And these deaths have led some to call for Israel to be charged with war crimes by an international tribunal.
But I am curious: Why do we never hear calls for Hamas leaders to be charged with war crimes?
Why, for example, do we hear no calls for human rights investigations into Hamas gunmen using Palestinian children as human shields? Why so few stories on the reports of Hamas assassins going to hospitals to hunt down their fellow Palestinians? And where are the international human rights groups demanding that Hamas stop blurring the most fundamental line in warfare: the distinction between civilian and combatant?
I suspect the answer has to do with the same grim logic that leads Hamas to provoke a military battle it knows it cannot win. Whether Israel is ever found guilty of any war crime hardly matters. Hamas gets a propaganda win simply by having the charge made often and loudly enough.
In this, Israel finds itself in much the same position the United States found itself in Iraq before the surge. There, al-Qaida realized that it was in its interests to provoke sectarian violence between Shia and Sunni - no matter what the cost to innocent Iraqis. That is the nature of terror. And what we are seeing in Gaza is just one front in this much larger war.
IN THE WEST, we are used to thinking that Israel cannot survive without the help of Europe and the United States. Tonight I say to you: Maybe we should start wondering whether we in Europe and the United States can survive if we allow the terrorists to succeed in Israel.
In this new century, the "West" is no longer a matter of geography. The West is defined by societies committed to freedom and democracy. That at least is how the terrorists see it. And if we are serious about meeting this challenge, we would expand the only military alliance committed to the defense of the West to include those on the front lines of this war. That means bringing countries such as Israel into NATO.
My friends, I do not pretend to have all the answers to Gaza this evening. But I do know this: The free world makes a terrible mistake if we deceive ourselves into thinking this is not our fight.
In the end, the Israeli people are fighting the same enemy we are: cold-blooded killers who reject peace, who reject freedom and who rule by the suicide vest, the car bomb and the human shield.
Against such an enemy, I will not second-guess the decisions of a free Israel defending her citizens. And I would ask all those who support peace and freedom to do the same. |
Bang on, bruddah.
God bless Rupert Murdoch who, regardless of whether one agrees with the views expressed on FoxNews and elsewhere, has done more to extend the spectrum of mass media reportage than anyone since Ted Turner. And unlike Turner he is still a realist. |
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Axl Rose

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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:19 am Post subject: |
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It's a beautiful speech. However, given the fact that he was addressing a Jewish audience, he might well have made the point that Palestinian nationalism is based on an alliance with Hitler a decade prior to 1948, and that the only difference between the Nazis and the Islamists is that the Nazis wore cool clothes. |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007 Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:01 am Post subject: |
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religious idiots both.
say no to theocracies. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:11 am Post subject: |
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"the Nazis wore cool clothes" |
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HughCl
Joined: 18 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Haha Great idea!
Link the sophisticated Jewish population with the idea that they have the right to someone else's land because of some religious beliefs--and Presto Chango--Israel!!
An idea as ludicrous as if someone stated that because Germans practiced genocide on the Jews the Jews in turn get to take Palestine. Oh wait...
Most Jews are smart enough not to move to Israel as they have witnessed the tyranny of religion before... |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: MURDOCH TELLS IT LIKE IT IS: The Jewish in All of Us |
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[quote="ManintheMiddle"]I couldn't agree with him more. Too bad this speech won't see the light of day in most of the mainstream Western media, cowed and colluding as it most certainly is. But maybe some Hamas apologist here will make note of it.
Ya, if only Mr. Murdoch had some way of getting his message out
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Newspapers
* Australia published by News Limited.
o The Australian (Nationwide)
o Community Media Group (16 QLD & NSW suburban/regional titles)
o Cumberland-Courier Newspapers (26 suburban/commuter titles)
o The Courier-Mail (Queensland)
o The Sunday Mail (Queensland)
o The Cairns Post (Cairns, Queensland)
o The Gold Coast Bulletin (Gold Coast, Queensland)
o The Townsville Bulletin (Townsville, Queensland)
o The Daily Telegraph (New South Wales)
o The Sunday Telgraph (New South Wales)
o Herald Sun (Victoria)
o Sunday Herald Sun (Victoria)
o The Weekly Times (Victoria)
o Leader Newspapers (30 suburban Melbourne, VIC titles)
o MX (Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane CBD)
o The Geelong Advertiser (Geelong, Victoria)
o The Advertiser (South Australia)
o The Sunday Mail (South Australia)
o Messenger Newspapers (11 suburban Adelaide, SA titles)
o The Sunday Times (Western Australia)
o The Mercury (Tasmania)
o Quest Newspapers (19 suburban Brisbane, QLD titles)
o The Sunday Tasmanian (Tasmania)
o Northern Territory News (Northern Territory)
o The Sunday Territorian (Northern Territory)
o The Tablelands Advertiser (Atherton Tablelands and the Far North, Queensland)
* Fiji
o Fiji Times (National)
o Nai Lalakai
o Shanti Dut
* Papua New Guinea
o Papua New Guinea Post-Courier (National)(62.5%)
* UK and Ireland newspapers, published by subsidiaries of News International Ltd.
o News Group Newspapers Ltd.
+ the tabloid The Sun (published in Ireland as The Irish Sun)
+ the tabloid News of the World
o Times Newspapers Ltd.
+ the broadsheet The Sunday Times
+ the 'ex-broadsheet' (Now in compact form) The Times
+ The Times Literary Supplement
o NI Free Newspapers Ltd.
+ the free newspaper thelondonpaper
* US newspapers and magazines
o The New York Post
o Dow Jones & Company
+ Consumer Media Group
# The Wall Street Journal - the leading US financial newspaper.
# Wall Street Journal Europe
# Wall Street Journal Asia
# Barron's - weekly financial markets magazine.
# Marketwatch - Financial news and information website.
# Far Eastern Economic Review
+ Enterprise Media Group
# Dow Jones Newswires - global, real-time news and information provider.
# Factiva - provides business news and information together with content delivery tools and services.
# Dow Jones Indexes - stock market indexes and indicators, including the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
# Dow Jones Financial Information Services - produces databases, electronic media, newsletters, conferences, directories, and other information services on specialised markets and industry sectors.
# Betten Financial News - leading Dutch language financial and economic news service.
+ Local Media Group
# Ottoway Community Newspapers - 8 daily and 15 weekly regional newspapers.
+ STOXX (33%)- joint venture with Deutsche Boerse and SWG Group for the development and distribution of Dow Jones STOXX indices.
+ Vedomosti (33%) - Russia's leading financial newspaper (joint venture with Financial Times and Independent Media).
+ SmartMoney (50%)
o The Timesledger Newspapers of Queens, New York:
+ Bayside Times, Whitestone Times, Flushing Times, Fresh Meadows Times, Little Neck Ledger, Jackson Heights Times, Richmond Hill Times, Jamaica Times, Laurelton Times, Queens Village Times, Astoria Times, Forest Hills Ledger, Ridgewood Ledger, Howard Beach Times
o The Courier-Life Newspapers in Brooklyn
o The Brooklyn Paper
o Caribbean Life
o The Times-Herald Record (Middletown, New York)
[edit] Magazines
* News America Marketing (Smartsource) (weekly Sunday newspaper coupon insert/website)
* The Weekly Standard (Washington, D.C.)
* Australian
o Alpha Magazine
o Australian Country Style
o Australian Golf Digest
o Australian Good Taste
o Big League
o BCME
o Delicious
o Donna Hay
o Fast Fours
o GQ (Australia)
o Gardening Australia
o InsideOut (Aust)
o Lifestyle Pools
o Live to Ride
o Notebook
o Overlander 4WD
o Modern Boating
o Modern Fishing
o Parents
o Pure Health
o Super Food Ideas
o Truck Australia
o Truckin' Life
o twowheels
o twowheels scooter
o Vogue (Australia)
o Vogue Entertaining & Travel
o Vogue Living
* Love it! (UK based Magazine)
* InsideOut (UK Based Magazine)
[edit] Music / Radio
* MySpace Records
* India
o Radio City (India radio station)(20%)held through STAR TV- commercial FM network with stations in 20 cities.
* Russia
o Nashe (50%)
o Best FM (50%)
* Fox Film Music Group
[edit] Sport
* 50% of the National Rugby League (Australia and New Zealand)
* Majority ownership of the Brisbane Broncos (68.9%) and, full ownership of the Melbourne Storm rugby league team.
* Colorado Rockies (15%)
[edit] Studios
* Fox Filmed Entertainment: 20th Century Fox's parent company
* 20th Century Fox: a film production company
* 20th Century Fox Television - primetime television programming.
* 20th Television - television distribution (syndication).
* Fox Searchlight Pictures - specialised films.
* Fox 2000 Pictures - general audience feature films.
* Fox Television Studios(productions)- market specific programming eg. COPS.
* Fox Television Studios International
o Fox World Productions
o Fox World Australia
o Fox TV Studios France
o Fox TV Studios India
o Natural History New Zealand - natural world documentaries, non-fiction programming.
* Fox Atomic - produces theatrical films, comics, and digital content targeting the 17-24 year olds. Aiming to produce/acquire eight films per year over a range of genres, specifically action and horror
* Fox Faith - Promotion and distribution of Christian and related "family friendly" movies on DVD and some theatrical release.
* Fox Studios Australia, Sydney, New South Wales
* Blue Sky Studios - production of CGI films eg. Ice Age.
* Fox Entertainment Group
* New Regency Productions (20%) - general audience feature films.
* Regency Enterprises (20%) - parent company of New Regency Productions (50%).
[edit] TV
News Corp agreed to sell eight of its television stations to Oak Hill Capital Partners for approximately $1.1 billion as of 22 December 2007. The stations are US FOX affiliates.[13]
[edit] Broadcast
* Fox Broadcasting Company (FOX), a US broadcast television network
* My Network TV, a US broadcast television network
* Fox Television Stations Group, a group of owned and operated FOX television stations
* Saeta TV Channel 10, channel of Uruguay
* ITV plc (17.5%), a British broadcast television network and the UK's largest advertising revenue based broadcaster via BSkyB, although a recent legal decision will require this stake to be cut.
* News Corp Europe
o bTV, a broadcast television network in Bulgaria
o B1 TV (12,5%), a broadcast television network in Romania, in partnership with Ismar International NV
o Fox Televizija, a broadcast television network in Serbia (49%)
o Fox Turkey, a Turkish terrestrial channel (56,5%) (formerly TGRT)
o Imedi Media Holding (100%), a Georgian radio and TV broadcaster.
+ Imedi Television
+ Radio Imedi
o Israel 10 (9%), a terrestrial channel in Israel.
o LNT (100%), a terrestrial channel in Latvia
o TV5 Riga (100%), a terrestrial channel in Latvia
* ANTV (20%), a private television station in Indonesia, under the administration and label of STAR TV
* Prime Television New Zealand - commercial TV station, interest held through stake in SKY Network Television
[edit] Satellite television
* BSkyB, United Kingdom (39.1% holding).
* Foxtel (25%), Australia, a joint venture with Telstra and Publishing and Broadcasting Limited
* SKY Network Television , New Zealand (44%)
* Sky Italia, Italian satellite TV service
* Fox Channels Italy, Italian Broadcast and Production Company (with 2 HDTV)
* Sky Latin America, Latin American satellite TV service
* Premiere (25.01%), Germany's largest pay TV provider.
* STAR TV, an Asian satellite TV service
* Phoenix Television (17.6%), satellite TV network with landing rights in Hong Kong, and select provinces on Mainland China
* Tata Sky (20%), an Indian DTH TV service (in partnership with Tata Group)
[edit] Cable
CHANNELS
* Fox Business Network, a business news channel.
* Fox Classics, a channel airing classic TV shows & movies
* Fox Movie Channel, an all-movie channel that airs commercial-free movies from 20th Century Fox film library
* Fox News Channel, a 24-hour news channel
* Fox Reality, a 'Reality TV'-themed channel
* Fox Sports Net, a chain of US regional cable television networks broadcasting local sporting events linked together by national sports news programming. Local channels include "Fox Sports Southwest", "Fox Sports Bay Area", etc. (some affiliates are owned by Cablevision).
* Fox College Sports, a college sports network consisting of three regionally-aligned channels
* SportSouth, a regional sports network in the United States, with its headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia.
* Fox Sports International
o Fox Soccer Channel, a United States digital cable network specialising mainly in soccer.
o Fox Sports Middle East - English language sports network airing in Middle East countries including Bahrain, Egypt, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, UAE & Yemen.
o Fox Pan American Sports (37.9%) - joint venture with Hicks, Muse, and Tate & Furst.
+ Fox Sports en Espa�ol (50%), a Spanish-language North American cable sports network; its sports lineup is tailored to appeal to a Latin American audience.
+ Fox Sports en Latinoam�rica, a Mexico-based Latin American satellite and cable sports network.
* FX Networks, a cable network broadcasting reruns of programming previously shown on other channels, but recently creating its own programming, including the Emmy Award-winning program The Shield.
* SPEED Channel
* FUEL TV
* Big Ten Network, cable and satellite channel dedicated to The Big Ten Conference, launched Aug 2007 (49%)
* National Geographic Channel (joint venture with National Geographic Magazine) 67%
* National Geographic Channel International 75%
* Fox International Channels, domestic cable channels offering different formats of Fox programming in over thirty countries worldwide.
o Fox
o Fox Life
o Fox Life HD
o Fox Crime
o FX
o Fox Horror
o Fox Movies
o Fox Sports
o Speed Channel
o National Geographic Channel
o National Geographic Channel HD
o National Geographic Wild
o National Geographic Adventure
o National Geographic Music
o National Geographic Junior
o Cult
o Next:HD
o Voyage
o Real Estate TV
o BabyTV
o Fox Toma 1 - Spanish language television production.
o Fox Telecolombia - Spanish language television production. (51%)
o Utarget.Fox - European and Latin American online ad company, plus now handles TV ad sales.
* Latin America
o Fox Latin American Channels - channels available in over 17 countries in Latin America
+ Baby TV
+ Canal FOX
+ Canal FX
+ Canal Fox Life
+ Canal Fox Reality
+ Canal Fox Sports
+ Canal Speed
+ Canal National Geographic Channel
+ Fox One-Stop Media - advertising sales for company owned and third party channels in Latin America
o LAPTV (22.5%) (Latin American Pay Television) operates 8 cable movie channels throughout South America excluding Brazil.
+ Movie City
+ Cine Canal
+ Cine Canal Classics
+ City Vibe
+ City Mix
+ The Film Zone
+ Movie City HD
+ Movie City On Demand
o Telecine(12.5%) operates 5 cable movie channels in Brazil.
+ Telecine Premium
+ Telecine Action
+ Telecine Light
+ Telecine Pipoca
+ Telecine Cult
* Australia
o Premier Media Group (50%)
+ Fox Sports One
+ Fox Sports Two
+ Fox Sports Three
+ FoxSportsNews
+ FUEL TV (Australia)
+ How To Channel
o Premium Movie Partnership (20%) - movie channels, a joint venture between 20th Century Fox, Sony Universal Pictures, Paramount and Liberty Media
+ Showtime 1 & 2
+ Showtime Greats
PLATFORMS
* India
o Hathway Cable & Datacom (22.2%), India's 2nd largest cable network through 7 cities including Bangalore, Chennai, Delhi, Mumbai & Pune
* Taiwan
o Total TV (20%), Pay TV platform with JV partner KOO's Group majority owner (80%). News Corp also has a 20% interest in the KOO's Group directly
[edit] Internet
* Fox Interactive Media
o Foxsports.com - website with sports news, scores, statistics, video and fantasy sports
o MySpace - Social networking website, general interest website acquired through purchase from Intermix Media
o MySpace TV, a video site which will host amateur videos, contents from net and studios that competes with Google's YouTube
o Photobucket - Photo sharing website.
o Beliefnet - Largest online faith and spirituality network.
o Hulu (45%) - online video download site in partnership with NBC Universal.
o Flektor - provides Web-based tools for photo and video editing and mashups.
o IGN Entertainment - Internet entertainment portal (Includes the sites IGN, GameSpy, Rotten Tomatoes, TeamXbox, and Askmen.com)
o Slingshot Labs - web development incubator (Includes the sites DailyFill).
o Strategic Data Corp - interactive advertising company which develops technology to deliver targeted internet advertising.
o Scout.com
o WhatIfSports.com - sports simulation and prediction website. Also provides fantasy-style sports games to play.
* Indya.com - 'India's no. 1 Entertainment Portal'
* ROO Group Inc (5% increasing to 10% with performance targets)
* News Digital Media
o News.com.au - Australian-oriented news website
+ News Lab
o CareerOne.com.au (50%) - recruitment advertisement website in partnership with Monster Worldwide.
o CarsGuide.com.au
o in2mobi.com.au
o TrueLocal.com.au
o Moshtix.com.au
o Learning Seat
o Netus (75%) - investment co. in online properties.
* REA Group (60.7%)
o Realestate.com.au
o Casa.it (69.4%), Sky Italia also holds a 30.6% share
o atHome group, operator of leading realestate websites in Luxembourg, France, Belgium and Germany.
+ Altowin (51%),provider of office management tools for realestate agents in Belgium.
o Propertyfinder.com (50%), News International holds the remaining 50%
+ Sherlock Publications, owner of hotproperty.co.uk portal and magazine titles 'Hot Property', 'Renting' and 'Overseas'
+ ukpropertyshop.co.uk, most comprehensive UK estate agent directory.
o PropertyLook, property websites in Australia and New Zealand.
o HomeSite.com.au, home renovation and improvement website.
o Square Foot Limited, Hong Kong's largest English Language property magazine and website
+ Primedia - Holding co. of Inside DB, a Hong Kong lifestyle magazine.
* TadpoleNet Media (10%) Hosts of ArmySailor.com
* New Zealand
o DVD Unlimited - leading online DVD subscription service (ownership through stake in Sky Network Television).
[edit] Other assets
* NDS - Conditional access technology and personal digital video recorders (PVRs) (49%)
o Jungo
o Timothy Coville
o ITE, publisher of Playstation and Mobile games, and interactive television
o Orbis Technology, supplier of online gambling software
* Broadsystem Ltd (UK) - Telephony provider for media companies, bought in 1991
* Broadsystem Australia (Australia)
* Broadsystem Ventures (UK) - provider of cheap-rate telephone calls, particularly for customers of Sky Television. Bought outright in 1999.
* Jamba! - Mobile Entertainment/Mobile Handsets Personalisation/Games.
* News Outdoor Group - Largest outdoor advertising company in Eastern Europe with over 70,000 ads including billboards and bus shelters, operating in Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Hungary, India, Israel, Poland, Romania, Russia (96 cities), Turkey & Ukraine.
o Maximedia Israel (67%)
o Mosgorreklama (50%) - Russia sign and marketing material manufacturer
o Kamera Acikhava Reklamclik (?) - leading outdoor advertising company in Turkey
* Australian Associated Press (45%) - real time news service.
* Stats Inc (50%) - worlds leading provider of sporting information and statistical analysis (a JV with Associated Press)
* Fox Sports Grill (50%) - Upscale sports bar and restaurant with 8 locations - Scottsdale, Arizona; Irvine, California; Seattle, Washington; Glendale, Arizona; Plano, Texas; Houston, Texas; San Diego, California; and Atlanta, Georgia.
* Fox Sports Skybox (70%) - Sports fan's Bar & Grill at Staples Center and 6 airport restaurants.
* News America Marketing (US) - (100%) - nation�s leading marketing services company, products include a portfolio of in-store, home-delivered and online media under the SmartSource brand.
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ManintheMiddle
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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blade:
I was referring to mainstream major media periodicals such as Newsweek, TIME, The Economist, Washington Post, NYT, etc. that are primarily news sources and which draw a largely left-leaning readership. Being coy or a smartass will get you nowhere. |
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mises
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I was referring to mainstream major media periodicals such as Newsweek, TIME, The Economist, Washington Post, NYT, etc. that are primarily news sources and which draw a largely left-leaning readership. Being coy or a smartass will get you nowhere.[/quote]
What do you consider a "left"? readership. Lefties I know won't even touch copies of The Economist. |
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HughCl
Joined: 18 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Blade
EXCELLENT! I am pissing in my pants laughing and I aint even a chic.
Yes despite only the worlds largest media empire we will never be able to get our opinions out there.. Gerge Orwell would roll over in his grave.
For the first 200 years of American history the media and press was only allowed to be owned by Americans.. Robert Murdoch changed that swiftly with some high priced lobbyists
THANKS FOR THAT! |
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HughCl
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Blade
EXCELLENT! I am pissing in my pants laughing and I aint even a chic.
Yes despite only the worlds largest media empire we will never be able to get our opinions out there.. Gerge Orwell would roll over in his grave.
For the first 200 years of American history the media and press was only allowed to be owned by Americans.. Robert Murdoch changed that swiftly with some high priced lobbyists
THANKS FOR THAT! |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Funny that most American Jews don't agree with Murdoch, Chinese food and chutzpah aside. |
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Big_Bird

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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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HughCl wrote: |
For the first 200 years of American history the media and press was only allowed to be owned by Americans.. Robert Murdoch changed that swiftly with some high priced lobbyists
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Murdoch got around that by renouncing his Australian citizenship and taking up US citizenship. |
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Big_Bird

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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Hater Depot wrote: |
Funny that most American Jews don't agree with Murdoch, Chinese food and chutzpah aside. |
Nor so many English Jews. I recall having dinner with a Jewish friend and his wife at their home in Golders Green. He was a respectable middle aged gentleman who worked in the Treasury. I was a little surprised when he told me: "If I had only 5 minutes to live and a gun, I would blow Murdoch's head off."
Murdoch is one of the most powerful men in the world. Over the past 3 decades he has had extraordinary influence on the political culture of the anglo-saxon nations. It's very disturbing that in the democratic West, so much power can be concentrated in the hands of one unelected git such as he. |
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mises
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Big_Bird wrote: |
I recall having dinner with a Jewish friend and his wife at their home in Golders Green. He was a respectable middle aged gentleman who worked in the Treasury. I was a little ... |
This reads like a Penthouse letter. |
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Big_Bird

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Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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mises wrote: |
Big_Bird wrote: |
I recall having dinner with a Jewish friend and his wife at their home in Golders Green. He was a respectable middle aged gentleman who worked in the Treasury. I was a little ... |
This reads like a Penthouse letter. |
I've never heard the term, don't understand the implication.
In a nutshell. He was Jewish (the topic of this thread). He wasn't some young nutty uni student, but rather a respectable middle-aged family man with a very respectable job and standing in the community. And I guess (being quite young at the time) I was surprised that he said such a thing.
But afterward, I understood him. |
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