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[oneiros]

Loved the bit at the end where they pulled out the remix of the original 1970's theme song, for those of us old enough to remember it...

[Gopher]

[SOOHWA101]

One question at this point:

What does Gyus (sp?) and his GF represent? Are they some God-like figures that roam the universe and comment/influence the outcome of evolving humans? If so, then who the funk were the two left on the "new" earth?

[Gopher]

Angels. They work for God. But they clarified at the end that "it does not like to be called God," whatever that means. I think the human Baltar and Caprica Six where their agents among the humans.

"The religious subplot" we were discussing early in this thread was always much more than the subplot.

In any case, here is the original Starbuck's fate. Compares with the new Starbuck's fate, I think.

[Gopher]

More on the United Nations appearance...

[akiakiaki]

I gotta say, I cried when Kara said goodbye to Sam. Then one more time when she disappeared.

I wasn't sad at all when former Pres. Roslin died though. Hated that character.

Good episode though. Anyone gonna watch Caprica?

[Gopher]

[akiakiaki]

I think Caprica has the potential to do well. Provided the series keeps the same writers and directors...

I am looking forward to the movie "The Plan" though. It comes out in August, right?

[aboxofchocolates]

what about the death kara thrace was supposed to bring....

[Vancouver]

yeah i know! they totally didn't deliver on the harbinger of death thing.

I thought it was so sad when Kara dissapeared. It was like a fly was in my chest and FTL jumped, leaving a hole inside.

And the Roslin death was expected but not as sad. I thought the earth scenes were shot amazingly. I think the "angels" just used Baltar and 6's images.

Here's another question, wtf was with Cavil just shooting himself? What the frak man.

[espoir]

All in all I thought it was one of the best series conclusions that I have ever watched!! It wrapped up many things rather nicely, even though I thought the religious sub plot was a bit much.

[blurgalurgalurga]

I interpreted the "Harbinger of Death" thing differently...in a sense, she was the end of the human race, and the beginning of the half-bred species. If, that is, her dad was the Daniel cylon, as was strongly hinted, she was herself the first half-breed, and undeniably she was also the guide who escorted the last few thousand pure-breds into their new half-breed home.

[Gopher]

[OneWayTraffic]

[Gopher]

It was way before the Stone Age. And the producers presented Hera as Mitochondrial Eve, remember?

Apollo chose to merge the colonial survivors with our planet's earliest hunter-gathering bands. They were not even vocalizing words/language at that time. Blank slate. And look at their choices of where they would divide up and settle into again: besides settling the African savanna, they went in separate groups to every area on the planet (the Fertile Crescent, East Asia, India, Central Mexico, the Andes) that domesticated agriculture and animals and developed "civilization" as we know it today.

Interesting sci-fi take on actual human history -- like I said, they resurrected the original series' Chariots-of-the-gods thesis. Most of those areas eventually built pyramids, such as the ones we saw on Kobol, I recall.

What I love about sci-fi is that it impacts so many of the debates that interest me as a historian. This choice that Apollo made -- to relinquish civilization and its technology because humanity was not ready to deal with it responsibly -- appears in the sociobiology/evolutionary psychology literature as well as the more radical environmentalists' works. Check out C. Ponting, A Green History of the World: the Environment and the Collapse of Great Civilizations [1991] (New York: Penguin, 1993) to see what I mean -- Ponting expressly advocates that we now do exactly what Apollo did. See his chapter "Ninety-Nine Percent of Human History."