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lifeinkorea · Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China

I have a Kohjinsha SH, without an antenna. There is nothing wrong with it, but it's just too small to use as a computer. So, I would like to either sell it for at least 300,000 won or trade it for something else. Currently, I am looking for an electric guitar with a whammy bar. If you don't have that, then maybe you can trade something else or pay for it. I am not looking for anything big though (like couches or pianos, lol).

Here is a link to a picture of it http://yfrog.com/3r07kojinshaforbcnr2j

If we work some kind of trade or payment deal, then I'll bring the actual Kohjinsha and power cord.

You can PM here or email me at [email protected]

Demophobe · Joined: 17 May 2004

Specs? At least a model number?

lifeinkorea · Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China

Here is a page with details (SCROLL DOWN) http://www.kohjinsha.com.sg/products/outline-sh.htm

If you are in Seoul, I can bring it up there for you to see. Right now, I have already received interest in email. If you email me too, I can notify you if and when the others decide not to buy it. First person to offer a trade or pay more than 300,000 gets it. I won't auction it off.

ryoga013 · Joined: 23 Nov 2008

Interested but would like to know what model number, what power adapter it has (is it free volt, dual frequency, what plug, Korean, Japanese or US) and what is the antenna supposed to do/where might I be able to find one?

the link you sent has a basic sum of what the computer is except for the actual specs like speed, what wireless, operating system etc. Is yours the black SH model or the vamped white model?

lifeinkorea · Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China

I suggest you ask the company. All I see is SH in my search and the site above has more than enough info in my opinion. If you want to hire an artist to draw the adapter and a band to write a song about it, please seek elsewhere.

As is (posted and owned), I'll bring it (for free) to Seoul to show.

YES, it is black, not the white one.

OneWayTraffic · Joined: 14 Mar 2005

lifeinkorea · Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China

ryoga013 · Joined: 23 Nov 2008

If you want to hire an artist to draw the adapter and a band to write a song about it, please seek elsewhere.[/quote]So you're saying you're too lazy or stupid to to look at the end of the cable, see if it's a two prong flat (US, Japan) or a two prong round (probably Korea) or recall from memory if you use it with an adapter.... interesting...

lifeinkorea · Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China

ryoga013 · Joined: 23 Nov 2008

Did anyone else see where it was posted "Korean" anywhere? anywhere at all???? Oh, I found one, Korean XP... that's all... about the 3rd one in...

I'm just saying, your posted sounded very condescending to a REAL question for a person that had serious intentions, not just someone trying to get information for no reason.

I guess cautious buying is frowned upon in Korea, even by expats.

lifeinkorea · Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China

ryoga013 · Joined: 23 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:06 pm
No Korean words listed.
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 6:37 am
You mention Seoul and the ability to delivery...
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:56 am
Posted again about being able to go to Seoul, that's it.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:50 pm
You state: It currently has XP (in Korean though).

Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:05 am
I WRITE: So you're saying you're too lazy or stupid to to look at the end of the cable, see if it's a two prong flat (US, Japan) or a two prong round (probably Korea) or recall from memory if you use it with an adapter.... interesting...

Then, and only then do you mention KOREA.
My argument is that you didn't clearly specify, or for that matter vaguely specify that the model was Korean other than the Korean XP that could have been installed by the last owner. You state:

OneWayTraffic · Joined: 14 Mar 2005

Lay off Ryoga. The guy may not be a computer expert, but there are plenty of plenty of Regular Joes who use computers.

If I was selling a guitar for eg and you asked me all those questions; all I could do would be say: It's got strings and some kind of plug, why don't you come have a look?

So why don't you? If it's a paperweight I'm sure you'll figure that out. Anyone who knows anything about these Kohjinshas will know that they're not for everyone, I'm suprised there's not more available second hand. For those that want the ultimate in small computing, they're hard to beat.

ryoga013 · Joined: 23 Nov 2008

You would be able to answer what plugs you had, if not, but wanted to sell it, you'd want to find out if there was a serious interest, not just tell them to shove off, right? If you had a store, and you were asked about something would you check on it, ask for clarification or would you tell them to bugger off?

Like you said, he's may not be a computer expert, but he could very easily ask for clarification unless he's too bull headed to do so. You're also right in the "have a look statement" but as it is second hand, he gave a picture of a unit that is not his and doesn't show the plugs or the adapter with the information that I would need.

I would have bought it if I had known more information but, he wouldn't give the time of day.

Kojinsha computers are pretty good. The paperweight comment was about how well it might be running despite how he stated it was "running ok" because as we have seen in his postings he will use later posts to state that he "stated things clearly before" but when it's only after the question that he adds that info. So, using that logic: "The battery's dead!" "ummm.... yeah, the battery's dead, as advertised...." "the battery's dead."

lifeinkorea · Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China

(COMPUTER WAS TRADED FOR A GUITAR. POST BELOW IS FOR FUTURE SALES OR TRADES)

If you have a used car, a mechanic will tell you to bring the car in because they can't possibly know what is wrong with it until they look at it.
On the flip side, using the store analogy, a car dealer would say, "Come in and check out the cars, drive one, give it a test run". So it doesn't matter, from the viewpoint of a master or novice, both kinds of people should look at the thing first before making a decision. I wanted to get something over the weekend as a trade or buy on my own, and that's what I did. I didn't feel like negotiating for weeks when I could just bring the computer up and show someone in a few hours. That's what happened today, and we made a trade. I got a guitar I wanted, and hopefully they got a computer they wanted.

Even if it had all the things you wanted, you would have still wanted to check it out before laying down cash. In case you wouldn't have, I don't think it would be fair to the person not to check it out first before accepting it as a trade or pay for it. So, I said I would bring the computer to any potential buyer to check it out AT NO COST TO THEM (MY TIME, MY DIME) before they pay anything. I didn't want the computer when I got it. It was something my ex-girlfriend said she wanted (something small). When I went to buy a router one day, the guy I bought it from showed me this computer and I called her. She told me to decide and I figured it was what she wanted.

I would never have bought it if I didn't look at it first though. It wouldn't matter if there was an antenna or not. It wouldn't have mattered if a mouse came with it or not. It wouldn't have mattered if cables came with it or not. ALL those "extra" things could easily be dealt with when a person sees the item. I didn't see the antenna and I decided to still get it.

If I was going to ship the computer to Busan, then of course I wouldn't have been "brisk" with my words. To me, if I had an American plug on a computer in Korea, it would be common sense for me to tell the customer upfront, "This plug WILL NOT fit into a Korean outlet". I omitted all the negatives and exceptions, since the computer was I selling fit all the norms you would expect living in Korea. If I were selling it to someone in Japan or America, I may have explained in detail more about the plug since they would have to do something about it. This is common sense for any seller to abide by. What is not common sense is to list all the affirmatives. That's why they have the company site, so you can see for yourself. If anything is out of the ordinary, then the seller has the responsibility of disclosing that information before any sale. There was nothing out of the ordinary. So, I didn't want to bother with posts ad nauseum, "Yea, it has this thing just as if you were Korean and bought it in Korea" over and over again.

In the end, it is me who would have come to you. All you would have to do with your lazy self is stick your head out the window and say, "That plug is not what I wanted". If that was crucial to selling the computer, either I would have reduced the price, or I would have wasted 4 hours of my day coming from Pyeongtaek because I wasn't clear enough. So, what would you have lost? Nothing.