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Mitwyatt
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject: (un)Intelligible interview |
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I just had an interview with a public school in Bucheon, and to sum it all up the interview was sort of awkward, there was a pretty big language barrier. We attempted exchanging e-mails but I don't think any of us got across to each other. Should I expect to be working with english co-teachers who cannot speak english very well? I thought that my co-teacher would be pretty well versed at speaking English. They seemed interested in me being a teacher there though.
Anyway I had some important questions to ask him, but I wasn't able to get through well at all and I don't think we'll be e-mailing each other soon, since I didn't get through the language wall.
I don't want to be mislead about my working conditions since it was hard to understand what my interviewer was saying.
What should I do? Should I look for another school? Or keep pursuing this position?
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tenchu77491
Joined: 16 Mar 2009
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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The truth is you will probably have students with better English than your coworkers. It happens. Or, you may have coworkers with great English. It's really random. |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Both of my co-teachers are barely functional in English.
There are students who speak English better than they do.
It's a daily struggle to communicate and it means a lot more work for me. Yesterday, they asked me to make detailed lesson plans for the classes they teach on their own (complete with scripts that they can follow and everything) and I told them no way. I don't think I should have to work extra hard to make up for the fact that they can't speak English. That's not my problem. |
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Korussian
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: (un)Intelligible interview |
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Although it's certainly true that you will have students who speak better English than your co-teachers, that does not mean that you should work at a school at which your co-teachers cannot come close to understanding your English.
If they can't communicate with you now, imagine how terrible things will get when you hit one of the several mini-crises that crop up during the year (housing problems, sick days, overtime pay, scheduling issues, family member dies, etc) and they can't understand a word you're saying, and therefore just assume that you're being uncooperative and not a team player.
For now, I would politely thank the school for their time and move on. If they're somewhat desperate or realize that there are communication problems, they may well assign someone else (with better English) to try to talk you into working with them.
Mitwyatt wrote: |
I just had an interview with a public school in Bucheon, and to sum it all up the interview was sort of awkward, there was a pretty big language barrier. We attempted exchanging e-mails but I don't think any of us got across to each other. Should I expect to be working with english co-teachers who cannot speak english very well? I thought that my co-teacher would be pretty well versed at speaking English. They seemed interested in me being a teacher there though.
Anyway I had some important questions to ask him, but I wasn't able to get through well at all and I don't think we'll be e-mailing each other soon, since I didn't get through the language wall.
I don't want to be mislead about my working conditions since it was hard to understand what my interviewer was saying.
What should I do? Should I look for another school? Or keep pursuing this position?
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Mitwyatt
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:06 am Post subject: Re: (un)Intelligible interview |
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Korussian wrote: |
Although it's certainly true that you will have students who speak better English than your co-teachers, that does not mean that you should work at a school at which your co-teachers cannot come close to understanding your English.
If they can't communicate with you now, imagine how terrible things will get when you hit one of the several mini-crises that crop up during the year (housing problems, sick days, overtime pay, scheduling issues, family member dies, etc) and they can't understand a word you're saying, and therefore just assume that you're being uncooperative and not a team player.
For now, I would politely thank the school for their time and move on. If they're somewhat desperate or realize that there are communication problems, they may well assign someone else (with better English) to try to talk you into working with them.
Mitwyatt wrote: |
I just had an interview with a public school in Bucheon, and to sum it all up the interview was sort of awkward, there was a pretty big language barrier. We attempted exchanging e-mails but I don't think any of us got across to each other. Should I expect to be working with english co-teachers who cannot speak english very well? I thought that my co-teacher would be pretty well versed at speaking English. They seemed interested in me being a teacher there though.
Anyway I had some important questions to ask him, but I wasn't able to get through well at all and I don't think we'll be e-mailing each other soon, since I didn't get through the language wall.
I don't want to be mislead about my working conditions since it was hard to understand what my interviewer was saying.
What should I do? Should I look for another school? Or keep pursuing this position?
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That's what exactly what I was thinking, if I couldnt communicate well with them in the first place (during an interview) then working with them could possibly turn into a horror story. If they cannot even comprehend what I was attempting to say to them, then to me that wouldn't really be a healthy work situation on my behalf and I can only get so far pantomiming everything I would probably like to say to them if I worked there. SO, with that being said, I believe I will politely decline the offer.
Any additional feedback is more than welcome.
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Mitwyatt
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Update:
I finally did receive an e-mail from my co-teacher, so either I DID get through to him, or he got in touch with my recruiter. Here is a sample of the e-mail as follows:
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Thank you for interview with you.
At the first time, I watched your pciture, I thought you like your chidren.
as you know, it is the most important thing to like one's children about teachers.
so, I think you will enjoy your life in or country, teaching and art..
I want you to join us to teach English together sincerely.. ^^
I will send you good news quickly.
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Is this typical? I replied asking him a barrage of questions about my teaching/living conditions all of which I attempted asking on the phone.
Still no contract from the school yet. |
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losing_touch

Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Location: Ulsan - I think!
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Hahahaha ~ Korea Sparkling! |
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Mitwyatt
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I feel so vexed, or like there's a thin milky haze over my eyes. I mean there has to be at least someone at this school (I would be working with) that I can converse well with in English, right? I don't want to be thrown into a class of eager students. |
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curlygirl

Joined: 26 Mar 2007 Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong
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Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Oh deary me. That e-mail really says it all. Consider this: the teacher who wrote that e-mail would have spent a very long time trying to write their best Englishee and that was the best they could do. Communication WILL be a huge problem.
It is normal for a school to shove their best Korean Englishee speaker into the liaison role when initiating contact with with a new native speaker, so if this person is the school's best speaker then you will definitely have a hard road ahead. And if you are stuck out in the boondocks you're in for a lonely time as you'll be isolated by the language barrier. My advice: hold out for something better. Take your time, do your research, make sure you feel comfortable - then take a deep breath and accept the contract that you have a good feeling about. Best of luck. |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:19 am Post subject: |
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The email not only shows their lack of English but also a lack of concern about your needs as a visiting teacher from another country. You have many questions concerning your situation yet they brush away your concerns with some weird statement about liking children makes you a good teacher.
I'd be tempted to string them along for more weird emails. The right thing to do is move on. There are plenty of schools out there that have experience with foreigners and understand the need to communicate and make that teacher comfortable. |
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Mitwyatt
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:25 am Post subject: |
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ED209 wrote: |
The email not only shows their lack of English but also a lack of concern about your needs as a visiting teacher from another country. You have many questions concerning your situation yet they brush away your concerns with some weird statement about liking children makes you a good teacher.
I'd be tempted to string them along for more weird emails. The right thing to do is move on. There are plenty of schools out there that have experience with foreigners and understand the need to communicate and make that teacher comfortable. |
Well, I did receive yet another e-mail with my questions answered, it would be nice for you, or anyone to tell me what they think about it. The position seems attractive, though like I said, it would be uncomfortable if I was left hung out to dry, with no one to converse with in English there.
The co-teacher claims that there are two other English speaking foreigner teachers there, so I'm guessing my next move is to ask if I can get their e-mails and ask them about what they think about the school?
Here's the e-mail:
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Ok, I'm going to respond your some questions.
1. What are my working hours each day? Is it 9:00am-4:40pm?
it is 8:40am ~ 4:40pm .(from Monday to Friday)
2. How many children per class? I think you said anywhere between 32-36 students?
Most of classes have 36 students but some classes have 24 students.
3. How long are the breaks usually? and how long is the lunch break?
The break is 10 minutes but lunch break is 1 hour.
4. Are there any other English teachers at SukChun elementary?
There are two Korean English teacher as well me and two native speaker( one is from Guam, the other is from USA) in our school. I'm weak to speak in English. Others are good at speak in English. because of muy task is finding out native Englsih teacher, I had a interview with you, speaking in Englsih poorly.
5.Are there any duties that are assigned which are not on the contract?
Did you read contract? It is everything. ^^
we don't insist you any duties except what is represented in the contract.
6. Would my salary be paid for by cash or is it direct deposited into a bank account?
It is direct deposited into the bank account.
7. Is there any chance I could get an apartment with an extra room I can make art in? 2 Rooms.
A happy artist = a happy teacher ; )
Frankly speaking, in Korea, all schools offer one person an apartment which has one room but I try to find out apartment which has two rooms in our budget. I will help you make art and do creative work. I think there are a lot of way to find out the apartments you want.
So, please, have a contract with us.
Also, I'm going to talk about our school's merits.
First of all, Our surrounding is the best. Our school is in Buchon. Buchon is one of the nearest cities from Seoul(capital). so you can go to Seoul easily and fastly. so you can have a experience with Korean culture and Asian culture. I'm sure it would affect your creative work.
Second, Our students is the best. This area is where the riches. so most of parents pay attention to their children. As a result, Most of students are good at English and have a talents in Art and Music etc. Also they respect teachers. If you teach them, you would be happy.
Third, there are a lot of teachers who like to speack in English in our school. Many teachers will help you enjoy your Korean creative life. above all our priciple is the most kind and mild and wonderful teacher. If you have any difficulties, he will help you.
At last, I'm your friend. When I watched your picture, I was attracted about you. I think I am warm-hearted. I like to aid others. Even though it is small of small uncomfortable thing like a tickle, I will help you. I'm your friend.
I'm impatient not to transmit my mind in English because of my poor english. But I want to you understand me.
please, have a contract with us.
Good bye ^^
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The way I read it is that he's a little desperate but he seems to be sincere about what he is attempting to tell me. But then again I'm still a novice and this would be my first time traveling to Korea and teaching. Any thoughts would be appreciated, and thanks again for all of those who have given me some input thus far.
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Location: somewhere in China
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: |
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Looks like a typical elementary school position. This may sound strange, but if you got a hagwon job and it turned out to be bad, you might be in a better position in Korea to transfer to a public school. That's what I did, and I was able to visit the school in person.
Going the other way may be harder, since public schools tend to do everything by the book. They won't have any reason to let you go until the end if you decide not to renew the contract. |
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Mitwyatt
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
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lifeinkorea wrote: |
Looks like a typical elementary school position. This may sound strange, but if you got a hagwon job and it turned out to be bad, you might be in a better position in Korea to transfer to a public school. That's what I did, and I was able to visit the school in person.
Going the other way may be harder, since public schools tend to do everything by the book. They won't have any reason to let you go until the end if you decide not to renew the contract. |
Well, I've been pretty much set on working at a public school first, seeing that I'm new, and then maybe a private after that, unless I really enjoy working at a public school. Do you teach elementary? You should PM and tell me what your work day is like.
Anyway once I get some more feedback I'm going to e-mail this co-teacher again and get some more information from him, especially getting in touch with the other English teachers there and seeing how they like their experience there. |
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John Henry
Joined: 24 Sep 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Just for some perspective, that mightnot be their best speaker.
When I did elementary, the best speaker was not the K English teacher. Many people want to be homeroom teachers instead of English teachers,regardless of English ability.
They said there are two other native teachers, talk to them both. |
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Mitwyatt
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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John Henry wrote: |
Just for some perspective, that mightnot be their best speaker.
When I did elementary, the best speaker was not the K English teacher. Many people want to be homeroom teachers instead of English teachers,regardless of English ability.
They said there are two other native teachers, talk to them both. |
I'm currently awaiting for my co-teacher or someone else at the school to give me the e-mail addresses of the native teachers. If they seriously want me as a teacher then I'm sure they will let me speak with the other two teachers there first before I make a decision. |
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