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Milkman Dan
Joined: 10 Jan 2009
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| 3. I had an old music production business with a few other MAC owners. One had a programming degree. We originally started on PCs, and had to put up endlessly with an unintuitive, inefficient, sloth of an OS that ground our workflow to a halt. On Mac, we never looked back. There is a reason why most music, and film industry technicians use Macs. |
An OS is only as good as what you're used to. For the while that I used OS/X I had the same unintuitive, inefficient problems that you had. The reason most music and film industry technicians use macs is inertia. |
That's something that I still wonder about - why do so many professionals insist on the superiority of Mac's for film/music editting? Is there some legitimate software and/or hardware advantage present in Mac's that PC's can't meet?
I've been way out of the loop regarding this issue. I mean, I remember when Amiga's were wiping the floor with the competition in regards to professional-level multimedia development. But with todays software packages becoming more homogenous, is there really any major difference between the two platforms anymore? |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:49 am Post subject: |
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According to GM, a car made by Bill Gates would have the following undocumented features:
1. Every time they repainted the lines on the road , you would have to buy a new car.
2. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn, would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would have to re-install the engine.
3. Only one person at a time could use the car, unless you bought "Car95' or "CarNY". But, then you would have to buy more seats.
4. The oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single "general car default" warning light.
5. New seats would force everyone to have the same size butt.
6. The airbag system would say , "Are you sure?" , before going off.
7. Occasionally for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.
8. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of Rand McNally road maps (now a GM subsidiary), even though they neither need them nor want them. Attempting to delete this option would immediately cause the car's performance to diminish by 50 percent or more. Moreover, GM would become a target for investigation by the Justice Department.
9. Every time GM introduced a new model car, buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.
10. You'd press the "start" button to shut off the engine. |
wow, those are pretty stupid.
Let's see how the Mac version of that might go...
1.) Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you wouldn't have time to drive your car b/c you'd be too busy telling other people how your car doesn't need the lines.
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On second thought, I don't even see the point in this. Half of the numbers in the original don't make sense, so why bother. I'm just gonna stop now.
As for the "Mac OSX is more intuitive and easy to use" argument...blah blah blah. Windows is perfectly easy to understand unless you're too thick-headed and stubborn to put even the tiniest bit of effort into it or if you're too stuck on worshiping everything put out by Mac. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:46 am Post subject: |
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Easy there. Didn't mean to get you all riled up. I wish you had continued with your list. That would have been a laff.
Yeah, that list is very old, but the only reason it applies less today is due to the fact that Windows has begun to evolve towards the Mac way of doing things.
I used to be a windows user. Like you, i thought Mac users were self-involved fanatics. However, when i switched to Mac, i realized how incredibly 'stupid' the windows OS was.
The tedious became simple. If you disagree, you haven't used a Mac for more than a few minutes.
No defragging; no need to install antivirus software and keep up with virus definitions. No need for port mapping, and firewall configuration.
Can a Windows PC do 4 way video chatting right out of the box?
How about Web hosting?
Multiple Email account consolidation?
How about browsing and restoring full volumes, user preferences and/ or single files from a series of dated backups at the touch of a key?
Nice to see Winblows finally coming into the present! |
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hanguker
Joined: 16 Mar 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:50 am Post subject: |
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Get a life people.
No really...blow up a girlfriend or watch some pr0n0:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiCwQB4X8Bc
I think both a PC and a mac can do that.
Sad bunch. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| Easy there. Didn't mean to get you all riled up. |
Why is it that Mac users always think that PC users who respond to their ridiculous and moronic claims are getting "riled up" in their response?
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| I wish you had continued with your list. That would have been a laff. |
How about this one to add to the list...
2.) The price of a base Mac car is 10,000. If you want doors in the back, the upgrade costs 1,500. A 20 gallon tank instead of the standard 5 gallon costs an additional 1,000. Want more than a 1.0L engine? The 1.5L costs an additional 5,000. 2.5L is 10,000 more.
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The tedious became simple. If you disagree, you haven't used a Mac for more than a few minutes.
No defragging; no need to install antivirus software and keep up with virus definitions. No need for port mapping, and firewall configuration. |
Tedious? What is tedious to do in a PC? I've been using them for years and never thought anything was tedious. Yes, I've used Macs before, just didn't care for it. I found the Mac OS more difficult. I guess that just proves that once you are used to something, other systems are difficult to adjust to.
Defrag? I do it once every few months before I head out for errands so my time isn't interrupted. Antivirus software is simple to use, free to download, and if you get the good ones (not hard to find since they're at the top of the list) the updates are automatic and you never have to do anything. Port mapping? how many regular users actually do that? Oohh, a firewall configuration. I guess clicking "block" or "unblock" is a little too difficult for some people. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:45 am Post subject: |
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Wow, some people are all giggly when laughing about the "I'm a MAC" ads, but when the shoe is on the other foot...
As I've said before, I'd have purchased a MAC mini, but they don't do Korean websites worth a crap once you start trying to purchase or do banking. |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a Linux.
Part 2.
Part 3.
Not bad, but the 'hot chick'?! Nothing could be more removed from the truth.
Nerd On! |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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swigs
Joined: 20 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:31 am Post subject: |
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thanks for the youtube links everyone.  funny stuff.
And to each their own. I don't pretend to know how to properly build a computer, that's not my thing. But for creative software, mac's have yet to fail me.
PC's have the best gaming machines no doubt, but I'm not a PC gamer.
I just think buying a PC purely by hardware specs is like buying a camera because it has more megapixels. One has to look at their computing habits to decide which set up is best suited for their needs. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: yes.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Tedious? What is tedious to do in a PC? I've been using them for years and never thought anything was tedious. Yes, I've used Macs before, just didn't care for it. I found the Mac OS more difficult. I guess that just proves that once you are used to something, other systems are difficult to adjust to.
Defrag? I do it once every few months before I head out for errands so my time isn't interrupted. Antivirus software is simple to use, free to download, and if you get the good ones (not hard to find since they're at the top of the list) the updates are automatic and you never have to do anything. Port mapping? how many regular users actually do that? Oohh, a firewall configuration. I guess clicking "block" or "unblock" is a little too difficult for some people. |
You don't see anything being tedious in Windows, because you haven't used Mac long enough to compare. I find it odd that someone would claim the Mac OS to be 'more difficult' when you get past the initial learning curve. Kreist, if people with a very low knowledge of computers generally find Macs to be more user friendly, I can't imagine why you don't think so.
I guess you'd rather put up with all these little inconveniences, then. Yes, defragging is one of them. Antivirus software, another... There are more and they all add up. To you, they are just part of using a computer.
But hey, that's great that you can leave your computer on to do such tasks while you go out. The mark of a good operating system, however, would mean not having to do it AT ALL. I'd rather set uTorrent to run while I go out, or just put my Mac to sleep and save power. That adds up, too.
Regarding port mapping, anyone with a router would know it is not a need above that of a 'regular user'.
I still stand by my claim that, right out of the box, my Mac can do a lot more than your PC. It will last a lot longer , as well.
http://apcmag.com/15_reasons_macs_are_still_better_than_windows.htm |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:22 am Post subject: |
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http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/06/10/12/apple_macbook_owners_organizing_class_action_lawsuit.html
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| Owners of Apple Computer's new 13-inch MacBook notebooks, whose systems are plagued by intermittent shutdown issues, have become fed up with extended repair times and inadequate resolutions to the problem, and are now organizing a class action lawsuit against the Mac maker. |
http://cultofmac.com/class-action-lawsuit-over-imac-display-problems/6562
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�Apple remained silent knowing its iMac display screens would malfunction while consumers purchased iMacs, made warranty claims arising from the vertical lines on display screens, and made out of warranty repairs related to vertical lines,� |
I can't remember where I read it. Probably Tomshardware.com. NVidia Drivers are the #1 cause of Blue Screen of Deaths in Windows. I'm trying to remember but it was something like 50% of all BSOD's were the fault of NVidia Drivers, NOT Windows.
Personally, I don't think Apple/Mac is worth the premium. People say, "Its so much easier/better to use!!"
How so? It takes the same 2 clicks to open up firefox on Mach or Windows. I'd love someone explain to me how Mac is so much better than windows when I'm checking email, looking at facebook, and downloading torrents. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Hmm. So PC's don't have hardware breakdowns?
If all you want to do is use the internet, then no, Macs aren't worth the extra money.
To answer your questions on how Macs are better at checking email. Well, I can consolidate all my email accounts into the Mail application on Mac. When new mail comes in to any of the accounts, the Mail app notifies me in the dock. I don't have to login to each of my email accounts. It works for my office mail too.
I can also remotely access my computer and sync files through the Mail app. |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| To answer your questions on how Macs are better at checking email. Well, I can consolidate all my email accounts into the Mail application on Mac. When new mail comes in to any of the accounts, the Mail app notifies me in the dock. I don't have to login to each of my email accounts. It works for my office mail too. |
Outlook does that. Hell, any web-based email has a pop-server function that can do the same thing.
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| I can also remotely access my computer and sync files through the Mail app. |
Outlook Web Access or just set up a VPN. |
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crescent
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| To answer your questions on how Macs are better at checking email. Well, I can consolidate all my email accounts into the Mail application on Mac. When new mail comes in to any of the accounts, the Mail app notifies me in the dock. I don't have to login to each of my email accounts. It works for my office mail too. |
Outlook does that. Hell, any web-based email has a pop-server function that can do the same thing.
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| I can also remotely access my computer and sync files through the Mail app. |
Outlook Web Access or just set up a VPN. |
Does Outlook come with your PC? Or do you pay extra? |
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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| crescent wrote: |
| the_beaver wrote: |
| crescent wrote: |
| To answer your questions on how Macs are better at checking email. Well, I can consolidate all my email accounts into the Mail application on Mac. When new mail comes in to any of the accounts, the Mail app notifies me in the dock. I don't have to login to each of my email accounts. It works for my office mail too. |
Outlook does that. Hell, any web-based email has a pop-server function that can do the same thing.
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| I can also remotely access my computer and sync files through the Mail app. |
Outlook Web Access or just set up a VPN. |
Does Outlook come with your PC? Or do you pay extra? |
No, but Outlook Express does.
The new Windows 7, which is in beta right now and is great, comes with Mail Live, which also does all those things.
Look, some people like Macs and others like PCs and that is that.
What gets me is that when Apple came out with I'm a Mac ads nobody on the "PC" side made a fuss, but when Microsoft responded with the I'm a PC ads, the Mac people got, and are still getting all bent out of shape.
Also, one last thing. |
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