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Circus Monkey
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: In my coconut tree
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2003 11:24 pm Post subject: Ghostwriting |
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I don't often reprint articles or links on here but I thought this might be of interest. Thoughts?
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O1D4215D3
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Cthulhu

Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Given the Korean educational system, nothing surprises me. Of course, undergrads back home buy papers off the Net all the time, but I figured that would stop at the graduate level (grad students should at least know--or care--about their material) but apparently not here. Korean education is a mess, and I don't see it improving much. But at least they are going after these ghostwriter outfits. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:31 am Post subject: |
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What's sad is that the ghostwritten papers are really bad anyways... |
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Homer Guest
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:27 am Post subject: |
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On the same topic,
the FBI released some stats about this same phenomenon in the States and Canada.
its 70 000 fake university diplomas sold in these countries. These include undergrad and graduate degrees...a sad statement indeed.
The term paper fraud is also rampant back home like here. And, its made its way into graduate studies, especially at the Masters level where some students pay for a completed thesis...not good again...
The hunt for these fraudulent activities has considerably slackened since 9-11 because of well lack of man-power available for this kind of crime.... |
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JackSarang
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 6:12 am Post subject: |
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I made extra money during University ghosting papers for one of those "term paper" websites.
You were basically hired like a hitman.. you entered what your expertise was and if someone needed a paper in your areas you get an e-mail, then you could choose to accept it, showing when it was needed by, how many pages and if a bibliography/endnotes were required, also how much you'd get paid. It was something like $10US a page plus $10 for notes/biblio with the website taking a cut and "processing fee" from the customer.
Not that I needed the extra work, but I needed the money and the papers were really simplistic, mostly for idiotic topics destined for kids at crappy American state universities. I was writing "Junior" History papers that would have been acceptable for 11th grade highschool. Not because that was what I was writing but because that was what was required. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Location: Coquitlam, BC
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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I work as a proofreader, and some Korean university students (trying to get into US colleges) asked me to do a little more than proofreading and I told them to go to Halifax.
Many Koreans hire ghostwriters while studying in American unis. I guess that explains why some lack in writing skills.
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Circus Monkey
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: In my coconut tree
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Dan

Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Sunny Glendale, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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back in high school there use to be stories about how guys on the east coast would take the SAT, memorize all the answers and then give the answers to students on the west coast.
because of this scam all SAT tests are given at the same time everywhere
and whoever said that there isn't cheating in grad school in the states, bwahahahahahaha, keep dreaming. |
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weatherman

Joined: 14 Jan 2003 Location: Korea
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Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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I did some ghostwritting for my Korean friends back in college. No big deal I thought. What I found surprizing was how little work they did during the semester. When I asked them how they wanted it written, they said "I don't know" and gave me the books to glean from. |
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SuperFly

Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Location: In the doghouse
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:39 am Post subject: |
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I miss the Circus Monkey.
He was a good guy.
What happened to him?
And whatever happened to the coconut tree dwellers? |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Homer wrote: |
On the same topic,
the FBI released some stats about this same phenomenon in the States and Canada.
its 70 000 fake university diplomas sold in these countries. These include undergrad and graduate degrees...a sad statement indeed.
The term paper fraud is also rampant back home like here. And, its made its way into graduate studies, especially at the Masters level where some students pay for a completed thesis...not good again... |
People cheat everywhere. Several students tried this at my school in the US and when caught, the university rightfully tossed their lame asses out. They all got Fail Ps, lost the course and were booted out of their program. Bye-bye tuition money. This was registered on their permanent transcript. When they catch you here, you tend to get a slap on the wrist, pass the course and get your MSc or whatever anyway. The difference is not the absence of regulations but absence of their enforcement. Which is why Korean university degrees aren't valued much. |
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