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ThingsComeAround

Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: Face-saving at its finest |
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May I ask any poster to add your favorite/most awkward face-saving situation where the word of a foreigner or Korean vs a lying Korean to cover something up? Let's try to be truthful!
Once my dept and I were eating lunch and there was a group of parents that came to eat with us, but sat at another table. The food was so-so, but on this particular day I was hungry. Unfortunately, the food was also somewhat cold, because the parents started eating first, and they left everything uncovered...
Anyway, I ate my food, talked with the other teachers, and I looked up and saw a parent pouring her soup from her tray into the communal soup- Thing is some of us like to eat seconds, but on this particular day, I noticed new parents wanted to eat food with us and they came after some teachers and I finished 1 dish. Disgusted, there was a urge within to discard my own tray and I told my handler the food was tainted with ABC food. A -new- parent came and was about to eat the soup, and I told her "No-no. Don't do that", shaking my head in a serious manner. My handler explained to her what had happened, when Another parent, not the one actually committing this heinous act, vouched for the food and said there was nothing wrong. The food was just replaced from downstairs.. THAT was what was poured in. At hearing this, I turned my nose up and sat down at the table, disgusted that they couldn't even fess up to something so idiotic and foolish. I was also grossed out because I know what I saw, and there was no way that woman was telling the truth! Fortunately since then, the gross parents have left and now the new ones don't over-stuff themselves.  |
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Whistleblower

Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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This was a small conversation to a Korean in the UK -
Me: Korean drivers are crazy, I nearly got hit numerous times.
Korean: They are skillful.
Me: Yes, but most are terrible and it's really stressful.
Korean: And they are also quite experienced drivers.
Why bother? They just decide to cover up for other people they don't know. Everybody knows Korea has one of the highest rates of road mortality in the OECD. |
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saw6436
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, ROK
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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It is quite common for food to be re-served here. At any given restaurant you may find that you have been given food "left-over" from another patrons meal.
Check your kimchee. If it is a a jumbled mass then it is most likely that you are being served "left-overs". A neatly stacked plate of kimchee means most food is served to the individual patron and not "recycled".
OP, you do know that people commonly share from the same bowl and dish? Most likely the parent saw nothing wrong with pouring their soup bck into a communal bowl. "Waste not, want not". |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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saw6436 wrote: |
OP, you do know that people commonly share from the same bowl and dish? Most likely the parent saw nothing wrong with pouring their soup bck into a communal bowl. "Waste not, want not". |
And still lied about it. |
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roadwork
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Goin' up the country
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Whistleblower wrote: |
This was a small conversation to a Korean in the UK -
Me: Korean drivers are crazy, I nearly got hit numerous times.
Korean: They are skillful.
Me: Yes, but most are terrible and it's really stressful.
Korean: And they are also quite experienced drivers.
Why bother? They just decide to cover up for other people they don't know. Everybody knows Korea has one of the highest rates of road mortality in the OECD. |
You ever get this one: "But Korean people think..."?
Korean teacher at a restaurant: "Do you like duck?"
Me: "No, it's too greasy and it has too much cholesterol."
Korean teacher:"Duck doesn't have cholesterol."
Me: "It sure as hell does, look it up on the internet."
Korean teacher: "But Korean people don't think it does." |
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samcheokguy

Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Location: Samcheok G-do
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:27 pm Post subject: |
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All time favorite
Koteacher:"KOrean people are kind."
Me:"What about the one who called me a dog baby?"
Koteacher: "That is bad word. Korean people don't use bad words." |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Korea is a bit shitty sometimes. You know it and Koreans know it and Koreans know that you know it, but they don't want you to know that they know it, so they deny it to save face about them knowing what you both know.
Seems quite clear to me. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, wonderful, isn't it, when one person speaks for not just his family or friends, but the entire nation of millions? "We" all have the exact same thoughts and actions?
This group stuff is pretty sick. Stinks like unwashed and unconsidered nationalism. What are we doing, playing sports here, team A vs team B..? |
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ChinaBoy
Joined: 17 Feb 2007
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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jajdude wrote: |
yeah, wonderful, isn't it, when one person speaks for not just his family or friends, but the entire nation of millions? "We" all have the exact same thoughts and actions?
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I had to teach an adult class of people just like this. How can you have a conversation??? |
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roadwork
Joined: 24 Nov 2008 Location: Goin' up the country
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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ChinaBoy wrote: |
jajdude wrote: |
yeah, wonderful, isn't it, when one person speaks for not just his family or friends, but the entire nation of millions? "We" all have the exact same thoughts and actions?
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I had to teach an adult class of people just like this. How can you have a conversation??? |
I would never want to teach a class of adults. I couldn't imagine the worthless BS that I would hear. That's why I don't talk to any of my Korean teachers unless it's about classes/students. Other than that, I get tired of the same crap we all hear regularly i.e.:"Does your country have four seasons?" |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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roadwork wrote: |
ChinaBoy wrote: |
jajdude wrote: |
yeah, wonderful, isn't it, when one person speaks for not just his family or friends, but the entire nation of millions? "We" all have the exact same thoughts and actions?
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I had to teach an adult class of people just like this. How can you have a conversation??? |
I would never want to teach a class of adults. I couldn't imagine the worthless BS that I would hear. That's why I don't talk to any of my Korean teachers unless it's about classes/students. Other than that, I get tired of the same crap we all hear regularly i.e.:"Does your country have four seasons?" |
Not all adults are so mindless... |
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crosbystillsstash
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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A parent calls me 2 hours before the start of her daughters first private class and says that they have decided to go to a hakwon because they heard its faster than learning from a native speaker.
Translation : "We decided we can't afford it."
Great manners.....thanks for telling me. |
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Yu_Bum_suk

Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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You know you've been in Korean too long when you find that it's you doing the BS face-saving and defending of your school and co-workers to students who've figured out what absolute crap the Korean educational system is.
Me: Every country's educational system has it's advantages and disatvantages. Canada has it's advantages and disadvantages. So does Korea.
Student: No, Korea only disadvantage.
Me: But Mr Lee has a very good English vocabulary.
Student: No, he is many word not know.
Me: But he's good at preparing students for reading tests.
Student: I think he is not useful to us. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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^ Nah, I'd say that's personal/professional loyalty, which is a good trait.
Many a time I've had students come up to me complaining about this or that teacher. And each time, I either challenge their assertions, or I quickly change the subject. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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Posted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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With regards to not being able to criticize a part without criticizing the whole. Once I made a comment about Kim Jong Il, I can't even remember what I said, insightful analysis of the situation, no doubt. For one of my co workers to take offense. |
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