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i'm english- why can't i teach english??
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
Location: ...Enlightenment...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read again, it's in there. I know that's funny coming after the world cup loss, but you'll see in a complete history of games won and lost, against any team, we have won more than lost. But the main point of my post came at the end, acheivements are not what makes people proud of their country in the long run.
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waggo



Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I missed that!!!!

Ive travelled all over New Zealand and it certainly is a stunningly beautiful country...the land of the long white cloud.....Gods own country so they say.
Mind you...God's a pretty fair chap and he's balanced things out by giving you the ugliest women in any western country I've ever been to.
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Donghae



Joined: 24 Dec 2003
Location: Fukuoka, Japan

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with those above who've pointed out that any N American bias, whilst undeniably a factor in Korea, isn't present ONLY in Korea. I note Taiwan was mentioned (of which I have no experience); in Japan too I've come across many, many people utterly convinced that (a) "American English" and "British English" are very different, almost like different languages, and (b) the British version is a bit eccentric and not much use in the real world.

Where I think Japan differs somewhat from Korea, is that ironically some Japanese (but definitely a smallish minority though) are actually attracted to what they perceive as that eccentricity of British English, and often by the related idea of the island Brits being a bit 'special' and 'different' from their continental neighgbours;rather like they see themselves. I haven't detected this much in Korea, even though I've generally found Koreans as likely or not to churn out the usual gentleman/tea/umbrellas/Londonfog etc. stereotypes as the average Japanese student.

For bobbyhanlon, it might be worth bearing in mind that some employers who need happy students to keep their businesses running, are a bit wary because of the (overexaggerated) fear of Brits teaching dodgy, incomprehensible English. If you anticipate this, neutralise your accent a bit if you've got a "scary" regional one (I'm a Brummie and I've done this!), re-assure them that you're quite well aware of N American usage and that using North American texts, spelling, pronunciation etc would be something you could easily do if required, perhaps adding, if appropriate, that Brits usually have far greater exposure to and knowledge of N American English than vice-versa.....it could help a little. I've tried all of these with both worried employers and worried students, and it's usually been effective.
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Kwangjuchicken



Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kangnamdragon wrote:
Koreans want to learn American-English, not British-English. Your grammar skills are not questioned, but yor pronunciation is not what is desired.


I have known many British English teachers. Most have a very interesting ability. When being interviewed, teaching, or talking with a non-native speaker of English, they have the clearest, most beautiful and easy to understand style of English. HOWEVER. When they speak to each other, or to me for that matter, in their "usual" way of speaking, Shocked I can't understand a thing.

So, it is very important how you speak at an interview.

But maybe you are not getting to that stage. Then, I think the bias may be because of English speaking "normal" in movies and they can not understand. Especially if they can compare Brit Eng. and AM. Eng. at the same time in the same movie. For example, take a movie with Hugh (SP?) Grant. The only time I ever understood a word he said in one of his movies was when it was closed captioned, and I could read it. Seriously, what's up with that guy????? It is like he is trying to talk with a mouth full of something and does not open his mouth nor move his lips.

Hope this is of some help. Very Happy
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taiwan - North American variety of English is wanted.

Korea - North American veriaty of Engish is wanted.

Japan - Seem to like/admire RP but manyof them aren't business people.
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waggo



Joined: 18 May 2003
Location: pusan baby!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a Korean girl the other day...she'd never left the country...and her American accent was more American than any American's I have ever met...I would describe it as grating.
Some Korean women are developing there own special form of American English which makes them sound like gum chewing New York hookers.
Is there a franchise specialising in this I wonder.
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metalhead



Joined: 18 May 2010
Location: Toilet

PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

waggo wrote:

Ive travelled all over New Zealand and it certainly is a stunningly beautiful country...the land of the long white cloud.....Gods own country so they say.
Mind you...God's a pretty fair chap and he's balanced things out by giving you the ugliest women in any western country I've ever been to.


Judge not a country by its cloud.
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Fallacy



Joined: 29 Jun 2015
Location: ex-ROK

PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nor a thread by age.
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jcd



Joined: 13 Mar 2012

PostPosted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt that there is much of a bias.
If so, it could be because of attitudes.
It might be because English people are under the impression that people who live outside of England speak a debased form of English. If you have this stupid idea, like the idiot prince Charles, then it would make you very difficult to communicate with.
Japan is different because they think they have something in common with the monarchy. They eat up that dontown abbey garbage. An Englishman can relate to holding your cup a certain way. It would be better if you guys just came clean and told the Japanese that the monarchy was one of the worst political systems, and that their democracy woes are nothing in comparison to having Henry the 8th as your king.
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Brooks



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Japan. They prefer Brits since the Americans dropped a couple bombs.
Many anglophiles here. I am from New York and I get the cold shoulder.
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chellovek



Joined: 29 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only sheltered mid-West good ol' boys here, please.

Makes it easier to feel superior! Twisted Evil
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Weigookin74



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chellovek wrote:
Only sheltered mid-West good ol' boys here, please.

Makes it easier to feel superior! Twisted Evil



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it8W7SkJAOY


...and you don't let Uncle Jesse tell you any different. Sad
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