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starryblu
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 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:21 pm Post subject: Gyopo, F4 problem? |
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In order to obtain an f-4 visa, do both your parents need to renounce their Korean citizenship?
i'm a gyopo with a U.S citizenship. My mom also got Naturalized and could renounce her Korean citizenship, but my dad is a Korean citizen residing in Korea.
I am still on my dad's family registry. Could i just renounce my Korean citizenship and my mom too? She is no longer on his registry.
Any help would be appreciated.
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:27 pm Post subject: Re: Gyopo, F-4 problem? |
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| starryblu wrote: |
In order to obtain an f-4 visa, do both your parents need to renounce their Korean citizenship?
i'm a gyopo with a U.S citizenship. My mom also got Naturalized and could renounce her Korean citizenship, but my dad is a Korean citizen residing in Korea.
I am still on my dad's family registry. Could i just renounce my Korean citizenship and my mom too? She is no longer on his registry.
Any help would be appreciated. |
Yes, they both need to renounce (or you are still a citizen and NOT eligible for an F4)
If your father is still Korean, and you are on the family registry, YOU are Korean - Get a Korean passport.
Be aware that if you are male, you will also be subject to the mandatory military service if you return.
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kuno808
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Gyopo, F-4 problem? |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| starryblu wrote: |
In order to obtain an f-4 visa, do both your parents need to renounce their Korean citizenship?
i'm a gyopo with a U.S citizenship. My mom also got Naturalized and could renounce her Korean citizenship, but my dad is a Korean citizen residing in Korea.
I am still on my dad's family registry. Could i just renounce my Korean citizenship and my mom too? She is no longer on his registry.
Any help would be appreciated. |
Yes, they both need to renounce (or you are still a citizen and NOT eligible for an F4)
If your father is still Korean, and you are on the family registry, YOU are Korean - Get a Korean passport.
Be aware that if you are male, you will also be subject to the mandatory military service if you return.
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hey ttompaz,
if my mom married, would she automatically be off her own family hojuk and go onto my dad's or could she be on both. the issue i have going is that if she is on my dads hojuk, she can renounce only if she can prove she is US citizen but she will need her certificate of naturalization which we can't find. i ordered her a new copy but they said it could take anywhere from 6 months to over a year to get a new copy (not enough man power to process all the requests). i thought her Us passport is enough since you can't get a US passport without the certificate but they won't accept that. do you know of another way she can renounce so that i could get a F4? would appreciate your input as always. |
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starryblu
Joined: 06 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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i've already been to Korea last year just visiting, used my u.s passport and stayed less than 30 days. i'm female so the military scare doesn't apply to me.
my mom is no longer on his registry, but i am on his registry and have retained his last name.
I am actually interested in teaching at a summer camp in Korea.
hope this clarifies a bit...for more help. thanks.
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kuno808
Joined: 17 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: F4 |
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hey Starryblu,
i believe that Korea does not recognize dual citizenship so you have to choose one or the other. for you to obtain F4 visa, your dad needs to renounce his citizenship and probably obtain a F4 visa like yourself if he wants to stay in korea. if not, you might need to give up your US citizenship to become a korean citizen. i am going through the same problem. for me, two worst case scenerios, get an E2 or go to the military. i am praying that my mom's name isn't on the hojuk cuz if it is, she cannot renounce until we get her copy of certification. was hoping there could be a loophole.
sorry, got off subject. not sure how easy it would be to get your US citizenship back again if you decide to leave korea and come back. i asked three different korean consulates in the US and i found the one in hawaii to be the most patient and helpful. good luck. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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| starryblu wrote: |
i've already been to Korea last year just visiting, used my u.s passport and stayed less than 30 days. i'm female so the military scare doesn't apply to me.
my mom is no longer on his registry, but i am on his registry and have retained his last name.
I am actually interested in teaching at a summer camp in Korea.
hope this clarifies a bit...for more help. thanks. |
He is in the states on a green card (or illegally) since he is still of Korean citizenship.
You hold US citizenship (I assume by birth) and not by naturalization.
You are on your father's family register.
This would make you a Korean citizen (unless you have yourself renounced your Korean citizenship).
Instead of trying to apply for an F4, get your Korean documents and get a Korean passport.
Korea may not recognize your US citizenship (they don't recognize dual citizens) but if you acquired it by birth there is no need to renounce it (in spite of what people tell you).
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starryblu
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| Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:32 am Post subject: |
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My dad has never left korea, he is a Korean citizen.
I just spoke to the Korean consulate in L.A. I only need to renounce my Korean citizenship b/c I am still on the hojuk because I was born in Korea (and became a u.s citizen by naturalization).
So having your parents forfeit their Korean citizenship doesn't apply in my case, since i was born in Korea. |
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llj2kll
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| one of my parents need to renounce their korean citizenship, how do they do this? |
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ahram04
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| i was interested in moving to korea and wanted to get the F-4 visa, however after doing some research and reading some posts, i don't know if i need to do that or not. i was born in korea and have been living in the u.s. for 16 yrs. i'm not a u.s. citizen but i have a green card. my dad is u.s. citizen by naturalization. i still have a korean passport. so am i eligible for the f-4 visa?? thanks. |
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giraffe
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| i was interested in moving to korea and wanted to get the F-4 visa, however after doing some research and reading some posts, i don't know if i need to do that or not. i was born in korea and have been living in the u.s. for 16 yrs. i'm not a u.s. citizen but i have a green card. my dad is u.s. citizen by naturalization. i still have a korean passport. so am i eligible for the f-4 visa?? thanks. |
why do you need a visa if you have an active korean passport? you should be able to go to korea as you please and work where you want just like any other korean. Just be careful if your korean male , you might have to do your mandatory military service.... |
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ahram04
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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| i didn't know having an active passport meant that i was still able to just move there because i read somewhere that if i have a green card from the u.s. that i need to still apply. thats where i got confused. so if i wanna get a teaching job in korea, i don't need a F-4 visa? |
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giraffe
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| ahram04 wrote: |
| i didn't know having an active passport meant that i was still able to just move there because i read somewhere that if i have a green card from the u.s. that i need to still apply. thats where i got confused. so if i wanna get a teaching job in korea, i don't need a F-4 visa? |
i dont understand why your sooo bent about getting an F4 visa.. If your korean passport is still active meaning .up to date as in not expired. Then you are korean citizen and you can do whatever the hell you want to do in korea just like any other korean who lived there their whole life. You should be able to find a job in a hagwon if you have good english, degree and esl/ toesol certificates help aswell. |
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ahram04
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| haha not having to apply for the F-4 visa is wonderful! I just wanted to make sure I could teach there. thanks!! |
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ahram04
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| Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| haha not having to apply for the F-4 visa is wonderful! I just wanted to make sure I could teach there. thanks!! |
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thomside13
Joined: 04 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Hi everyone! not sure if anyone has experienced this, but here goes:
Just got back from the Korean Consulate in LA today with all my paper work ready to apply for a F4 visa. I had the family registry where it showed both of my parents renounced their citizenship.
For some reason one of my parents decided to put my name on the registry and the worker at the registry told me I cannot get a F4 visa due to military service obligations. The thing is I was born in the U.S. and have only been to Korea once for a week. I have served 4 yrs in the U.S. Army as well.
The problem is my name was never taken off the registry and the worker at the Consulate informed me that I had to remove my name by the age of 18 and that I cannot get a F4 visa until the age of 35.
Has anyone else ever experienced anything like this? |
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