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Safety wake up call at our school

 
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Seoul'n'Corea



Joined: 06 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:56 pm    Post subject: Safety wake up call at our school Reply with quote

The school next door to us caught fire in Seoul last night.
Apparently the blaze was started by an electrical problem. (ie, a powerbar)

The whole situation could have been avoided if 3 things were done, safety check, properly cared for fire extinguishers and safety training for teachers.

None of these things were done and the teachers office is seriously damaged as a result.

If you can believe it the staff at the school didn't know how to use a fire extinguisher. How stupid can people get when they WORK IN A SCHOOL and don't know anything about safety.

Amazing. Just when I think I have heard one for the darwin awards, then I hear this.....

Really pathetic.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea's new slogan: Speed Over Saftety 안전 보다 신속 (?? maybe...not sure about the phrasing there)

During their rapid development, they really skipped over a lot of important safety stuff. "Stop, drop, and roll" "look both ways before crossing" "Mr. Yuck", etc. That stuff was pounded into my head as a kid.

I still look back in awe at the fire drill I witnessed at a high school in Gyunggido. Mass panic, pile-ups, trampling, etc. All because the principle forced the students to stop and change their shoes on the way out of a "burning" building.
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JJJ



Joined: 27 Nov 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No surprise here. I asked the teachers and school nurse as well if they knew the Heimlich maneuver because I was choking severely on a fish bone once.....Ehhhhhh, what is that? they said. A.R. ... no clue what it is. CPR...heard of it but no one except me knows how to do it. Fire extinguisher...bahhhh, that's the fire departments job not ours. Laughing
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was a student in Seoul many years ago, I asked one of my classmates what 안전 제일 on so many signs meant. She said, "Nothing. It's just decoration." Some things never change.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We had a fire in one of those 3-way recycling garbage can boxes like you find in the subway -- only it was on the 5th floor staircase of our building (where I teach). It smoked-out the entire 5th floor. One garbage can.

Some kid had flicked his cigarette in there.
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is precisely why school buildings never exceed more than 5 stories. At 5 five stories, you'll likely survive the fall.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

5 stories would likely *beep* me up so bad I wouldn't want to survive.
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Seoul'n'Corea



Joined: 06 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poet13 wrote:
5 stories would likely *beep* me up so bad I wouldn't want to survive.



I think I am going to do a lesson on emergency preparedness for our school.

I am going to get the comedy fire marshall bill and show it.

I will also demonstrate that it is useless not to have fully loaded fire extinguishers in our school and that having power-bars without proper grounding is going to load to a fire or electrocution.

I am still in shock how ignorant people are in Korea about general safety.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CeleryMan wrote:
Which is precisely why school buildings never exceed more than 5 stories. At 5 five stories, you'll likely survive the fall.


I thought most people died after like 2 or 3?
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
CeleryMan wrote:
Which is precisely why school buildings never exceed more than 5 stories. At 5 five stories, you'll likely survive the fall.


I thought most people died after like 2 or 3?


Not if a pile of 30 students breaks your fall.
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Illysook



Joined: 30 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Latex balloons are a choking hazard and they are banned from many schools and children's hospitals back home. The bright colors are attractive to the kids and the latex will block an airway as effectively as it will block, umm....something else;) So, if you have some in your classroom and have the ability to get rid of them, you should do so.
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Underwaterbob



Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The toxic smelling plastic bubbles you blow up with a straw can't be safe either.
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harlowethrombey



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
CeleryMan wrote:
Which is precisely why school buildings never exceed more than 5 stories. At 5 five stories, you'll likely survive the fall.


I thought most people died after like 2 or 3?


Not if a pile of 30 students breaks your fall.



Shocked


Laughing
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Jammer113



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I thought most people died after like 2 or 3?


Working in hospitals and rehab centers, I've seen lots of 4 and 5 story falls where the people survived. Mostly roofers who didn't wear safety harnesses. I don't have any real numbers, but I'd guess that more live than die. They get messed up, though. Shattered legs, broken backs, severe internal damage, etc. Of course, working where I worked (hospital surgical floors and rehab centers), I naturally only saw the ones who both lived and got severely hurt.
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the oak llama



Joined: 05 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 story fall...you could simulate it by running at 41.6 m/s into a wall.

wear a helmet.
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