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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: I'm a ghost. Reply with quote

I walked into my 3rd grade class today and one of my students was writing on the board. She was drawing a picture of a Pac Man style ghost with the word 유령 and my name next to it.

"WTF is this?" I asked to which she replied "ghost teachurr *giggle*." "That's nice." *Flick to the forehead* "Now sit down."

I initally thought she was was being a weird/dumb kid, but then I started thinking about my time in Japan where calling a white person a ghost was a fairly insulting racial slur.

Was I called the equivelant of n1gger teacher today? Should tomorrow's lesson be about tolerance and bigotry followed by a spirited game of "break my foot off in your ass" or was it just a kid being dumb?

Is being called a ghost as insulting as I'm starting to believe?
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okokok



Joined: 27 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. Yes, it is.
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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought so. Somebody call an excoricst because there's gonna be a very angry aprition and a very sad little girl somewhere in Korea tomorrow.
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okokok



Joined: 27 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gimpokid wrote:
and a very sad little girl somewhere in Korea tomorrow.


Probably in Gimpo.
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Straphanger



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: Chilgok, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: I'm a ghost. Reply with quote

Gimpokid wrote:
Is being called a ghost as insulting as I'm starting to believe?

Gaijin is the same word in Chinese, and it's not the N-word. I went up to a taxi driver in a new city looking for the foreigner hangout. "Waegook saramdul odiesayo?" I did an English/Korean/Japanese combo in Tokyo using the word Gaijin instead of Waegookin, and I was understood 100%.

Maybe you need to get a tan? I love you, man, but you gotta lay out sometimes.
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Joe666



Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Location: Jesus it's hot down here!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To The Gimp - You must be extremely pale. K-people have a lot of nerve calling us white, I have seen some corpses walking around this country. Don't let it get to you! I was called a mosquito by some punk kid because my nose never got flattened properly.
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Joe666



Joined: 19 Nov 2008
Location: Jesus it's hot down here!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To The Gimp - You must be extremely pale. K-people have a lot of nerve calling us white, I have seen some corpses walking around this country. Don't let it get to you! I was called a mosquito by some punk kid because my nose never got flattened properly.

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Morning_Star



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

You flicked the girl on the head? YOU ABUSIVE MORON!!!!!!

CREEP!! You totally deserve to be called that and worse! You're clearly not cut out to be a teacher of ANY kind!
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wesharris



Joined: 10 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

Morning_Star wrote:
You flicked the girl on the head? YOU ABUSIVE MORON!!!!!!

CREEP!! You totally deserve to be called that and worse! You're clearly not cut out to be a teacher of ANY kind!


You sir are an idiot.
A good smack does a childrens good.
_+_+
WeS
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought many a time - that I really was a ghost in Korea.

Because, often whilst walking down the footpath an ajumma or a adashi on a motorcycle would try to walk/ride through me -

and sometimes whilst trying to cross the street, cars would try to drive through me (without stopping)...

and sometimes when I walk into a shop, the sales staff would freeze - as if they suddenly got cold-chills but would act as if they couldn't see me in the shop...

and sometimes whilst waiting in a queue - people would just walk in front of me as if I wasn't there...

because of these things - I am sure I am a ghost.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You flicked the girl on the head? YOU ABUSIVE MORON!!!!!!

CREEP!! You totally deserve to be called that and worse! You're clearly not cut out to be a teacher of ANY kind!"


You have obviously never taken a child outside and set him on fire. The rest behave after that, believe me.
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Insidejohnmalkovich



Joined: 11 Jan 2008
Location: Pusan

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

Morning_Star wrote:
You flicked the girl on the head? YOU ABUSIVE MORON!!!!!!

CREEP!! You totally deserve to be called that and worse! You're clearly not cut out to be a teacher of ANY kind!


Umm ... I presume you are joking, making fun of the politically correct. <crosses fingers>

On the other hand, why would anyone be troubled by the epithet Ghost? Who is so sensitive and unrealistic not to see the difference between our lily white skin (well, manyof us) and the Korean's shades of yellow and brown? Of course, our faces and forearms are often browned by the sun, but my children were amazed and soemtimes delighted when I showed them the inside of my upper arm which rarely sees the sun. All Korean girls wish they were so white.

And I do not flick them on the forehead, I smack them on the back of the head. And swat the boys on the back.
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superacidjax



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:07 pm    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

wesharris wrote:
Morning_Star wrote:
You flicked the girl on the head? YOU ABUSIVE MORON!!!!!!

CREEP!! You totally deserve to be called that and worse! You're clearly not cut out to be a teacher of ANY kind!


You sir are an idiot.
A good smack does a childrens good.

I second that!

I'm sure I'm not alone in this observation, but one school for which I worked, wacked students HARD on the hand with a stick or on the backside when the kids would act up. I didn't wack any kids when I worked for that school.. and I wonder why the kids misbehaved in MY class. Should'a carried a stick..
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Gimpokid



Joined: 09 Nov 2008
Location: Best Gimpo

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morning Star are you for real? If a flick on the head disqualifies someone from being a "good" teacher than there is not a single good teacher of Korean ethnicity on this whole penninsula. I'm not trying to be Mr. Rogers or Happy Issac. I can only imagine what a typical day in one of your classrooms is like.

Anyway, yes I'm pretty white because of the lack of sun and I do get darker in the summer months.

I don't mind the kids pointing out that I'm white or look different. What I do mind is them using (what I thought was) a term of abuse. The actual terminology doesn't offend me only the intent. Isn't calling a black person a "spade" a somewhat accurate description? Out of context the word doesn't carry much weight at all, but it's still not something you should say.
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harlowethrombey



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: I'm a ghost. Reply with quote

Straphanger wrote:
Gimpokid wrote:
Is being called a ghost as insulting as I'm starting to believe?

Gaijin is the same word in Chinese, and it's not the N-word. I went up to a taxi driver in a new city looking for the foreigner hangout. "Waegook saramdul odiesayo?" I did an English/Korean/Japanese combo in Tokyo using the word Gaijin instead of Waegookin, and I was understood 100%.

Maybe you need to get a tan? I love you, man, but you gotta lay out sometimes.



Maybe the students are referring to the term Gweilo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gweilo

And btw, gaijin is an insulting word. Yeah you can use the word gaijin to refer to foreign people just like you can use n1gger or slant eye to refer to people, too. Just because it works doesnt mean its not a derogatory term. You basically told the cab driver to take you to the bar where all the hair of the foreign dogs hang out. (so the next time you're in Tokyo and people are laughing and referring to you as a 'gaijin' they are not giving you a compliment).
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