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English Matt



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:18 pm    Post subject: Moving apartments - GEPIK Reply with quote

I have just recently re-signed for another year at my public school (GEPIK).

The contract on my apartment however was not renewed and I have to move to a new apartment. No problem there, the apartment that was found for me is fine and in the same building.

However....my school is expecting me to fit the bill for moving all my furniture into the new apartment. My handler said that my school will think that I am cheap if I do not pay myself....I tried to explain to her that if I had not re-signed and they had had to hire a new teacher, they would have had to foot this expense themselves as they would hardly slap this charge on a new teacher.....so why make me pay when I have been here for a year working hard for them. Additionally, it was not my choice to move to this new apartment....so why should I have to pay?

Anyone else in GEPIK had to move apartments? Did your school make you pay the moving expenses or did they cover it?
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teachergirltoo



Joined: 28 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I paid all associated expenses. Mind you, I moved everything except the furniture, then they sent the printroom man and his assistant home with me and they moved that.
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sinsanri



Joined: 20 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The going philosophy in Korea is, if you are the one using the items you pay. That goes for repairs as well. Stop being cheap and pay. Though if you re-signed at the same school, just ask some students to help you and buy them dinner.
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tob55



Joined: 29 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Moving Reply with quote

If you are moving in the same building from floor to floor you can find someone that will move you for a song and dance in terms of money. The people who do the moving these days when it is their "off season" for moving people just want to have something to do and as long as it provides them with enough to get a couple of good meals out of it, they will barter the price with you. I have done it before myself when we moved. It isn't rocket science. Ask around and you will get replies. For the little money it will cost you, it is a good option.
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English Matt



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinsanri wrote:
The going philosophy in Korea is, if you are the one using the items you pay. That goes for repairs as well. Stop being cheap and pay. Though if you re-signed at the same school, just ask some students to help you and buy them dinner.


I'm not being cheap....it's the principle at work here. If they were to hire a new teacher then they would have to pay to move the furniture to a new apartment. If I am good enough at my job that they want me to stay then why can't they do the same for me. As I previously stated, I did not choose to move, so why should I have to pay. The apartment is part of my compensation (the contract states that I am liable for utility bills but not for moving fees).

Also, whatever your situation may be at your school, I certainly don't have my students come and work for me after the school day. One, they are high school students and thus almost never leave the school, except to sleep. Two, it'd be kind of strange to ask them to come and help me move....I'm their teacher, not their employer or buddy.
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sinsanri



Joined: 20 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

English Matt wrote:
sinsanri wrote:
The going philosophy in Korea is, if you are the one using the items you pay. That goes for repairs as well. Stop being cheap and pay. Though if you re-signed at the same school, just ask some students to help you and buy them dinner.


I'm not being cheap....it's the principle at work here. If they were to hire a new teacher then they would have to pay to move the furniture to a new apartment. If I am good enough at my job that they want me to stay then why can't they do the same for me. As I previously stated, I did not choose to move, so why should I have to pay. The apartment is part of my compensation (the contract states that I am liable for utility bills but not for moving fees).

Also, whatever your situation may be at your school, I certainly don't have my students come and work for me after the school day. One, they are high school students and thus almost never leave the school, except to sleep. Two, it'd be kind of strange to ask them to come and help me move....I'm their teacher, not their employer or buddy.


#1. There is no principle at work here, one reason they re-signed you is to save money. Yes THE APARTMENT IS not the MOVING COSTS.

#2. You must be a newbie.
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Morgen



Joined: 02 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you, OP. I was transferred by the POE and was kind of insulted when I was told to pay the fees for having the gas set up and everything. It didn't amount to all that much, but I was moving to accomodate their needs and had already put myself out by commuting over an hour each way until the place became available. I don't have any advice about how to handle this (maybe split the costs? I don't know), but I see where you're coming from. Maybe the school would let you borrow the maintenance guys?
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English Matt



Joined: 12 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sinsanri wrote:
English Matt wrote:
sinsanri wrote:
The going philosophy in Korea is, if you are the one using the items you pay. That goes for repairs as well. Stop being cheap and pay. Though if you re-signed at the same school, just ask some students to help you and buy them dinner.


I'm not being cheap....it's the principle at work here. If they were to hire a new teacher then they would have to pay to move the furniture to a new apartment. If I am good enough at my job that they want me to stay then why can't they do the same for me. As I previously stated, I did not choose to move, so why should I have to pay. The apartment is part of my compensation (the contract states that I am liable for utility bills but not for moving fees).

Also, whatever your situation may be at your school, I certainly don't have my students come and work for me after the school day. One, they are high school students and thus almost never leave the school, except to sleep. Two, it'd be kind of strange to ask them to come and help me move....I'm their teacher, not their employer or buddy.


#1. There is no principle at work here, one reason they re-signed you is to save money. Yes THE APARTMENT IS not the MOVING COSTS.

#2. You must be a newbie.


#1. Well if they were looking to save money, they fail on that account....I cost more than a newbie. The moving costs are the apartment when you consider that they pay this themselves if and when a new teacher is hired.

#2. I'm not a newbie and don't know anybody with the sort of relationship with their students that would be required to get them to do jobs for them....nor would I want them to do stuff for me - the job is a job and I like to leave the work at work. I work in a city, not a small town and none of the teachers at my school use the kids in this manner.
Try being elitist on another thread.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a non-issue.

To all those who disagree and think the OP should pay, read your contracts! GEPIK (or the school) will be in breach if the apartment is not 'furnished'. Therefore, GEPIK/the school is responsible for the cost of moving the furnishings to the new apartment.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should be a non-issue for other reasons. The teacher should box up their stuff, and in one day, a few people from the school, maintenance from the apartment, and the teacher move the stuff.

You can't expect the teacher to move the stuff alone, and at the same time you can't expect the school to furnish the same stuff a second time. These types of things are what I call "favors" and personally, I would take it as exercise, do it alone, and then make the school know about it anytime their is a dispute.

Apparently, the teacher is in good standing so you can play games at this stage. Even though the school will not be interested in helping the teacher move, they will be interested in getting that teacher moved out since they are paying the rent. I would just tell them whenever they ask, "Are you done yet?" that I needed one more person to help carry the heavy stuff (fridge, bed, etc..). Make sure easy to carry stuff is already out. This will make your case seem stronger.

Also, you shouldn't have to carry the fridge which could get damaged in the process. All this does is give them insurance to buy a new one if you drop it or mishandle it in some way.

The pressure is then on them, they can either pay for two apartments or help get things moved out in a timely manner. Cleaning and moving the stuff on your own just means they don't have to hire someone else to do it.
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sinsanri



Joined: 20 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try being elitist on another thread


Not being an elitest, you need to stop being 'entitled' and learn to pay for things yourself.

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To all those who disagree and think the OP should pay, read your contracts! GEPIK (or the school) will be in breach if the apartment is not 'furnished'. Therefore, GEPIK/the school is responsible for the cost of moving the furnishings to the new apartment.


That is just wrong.

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You can't expect the teacher to move the stuff alone,


No one does, but if he doesn't want to spend time with his students, nursing a superiority complex, then maybe he needs to re-think his job choice. Teaching is about students and it is done outside the classroom as well as inside.
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Morgen



Joined: 02 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaching isn't "about" press-ganging your students into service, haha. I'm going to chuckle about that all day.
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to move a few weeks ago and didn't have to pay anything. We both got the day off school but it turns out my gfs day off was unpaid which is pretty lame.

If the school had turned round to me and said foot the bill I would have gone home. Being made to move in a foreign country is pretty bad, but having the responsibility for all the junk collected over the years from the old place is another.

When Koreans move you don't have to lift a finger either, I wish I had known that before I boxed everything up.
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sinsanri



Joined: 20 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morgen wrote:
Teaching isn't "about" press-ganging your students into service, haha. I'm going to chuckle about that all day.


I haven't fully explained this either nor will I, suffice it to say it is a good option.
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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am looking into prices for moving my belongings from one apartment to another. I am moving a distance of one and a half hours by car.

I am taking no major furniture, apart from a chair, microwave, large mirror, and medium sized cabinet. I'll take my suitcase, laptop, and about 9 shopping bags full of essential items e.g. food, blankets, pillow etc.

I am waiting for a quote, through a friend. It may be quite expensive. Embarassed Laughing

Any ideas about what the price for moving in my situation would be? A friend said he will peruse auction websites, which may help to get a cheaper price.
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