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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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I think someone was molested by someone from the middle east because he was a little quick to play the racism card there...Go back and play your video games... |
you might want to try smacking your head against the wall there, you seem to be skipping.
seriously..great dig... someone likes video games.. holy shit. You probably couldn't find another person on the forum who likes video games.. shit did you stay up all night trying to figure out the copy and paste just so you could write it again? |
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gangwonbound
Joined: 27 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:25 am Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: |
| gangwonbound wrote: |
I think someone was molested by someone from the middle east because he was a little quick to play the racism card there...Go back and play your video games... |
you might want to try smacking your head against the wall there, you seem to be skipping.
seriously..great dig... someone likes video games.. holy shit. You probably couldn't find another person on the forum who likes video games.. shit did you stay up all night trying to figure out the copy and paste just so you could write it again? |
Naa it's just usually children who are quick to jump to label things as racist...The fact that you play video games makes me thing that you are just really immature/a child. |
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beast
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| The guy asked a simple question and he got labeled as a racist. Everyone just wants to attack him. He simply writes that if he wasn't an English teacher, there would be no reason for him to come here. It seems to him that everyone who comes to this small country is either a teacher or in the military. So he wonders why so many Middle Eastern people are coming here and what business they are involved in. That is not racist, that is curious. So instead of labeling him as a racist, answer his question. What business are 200,000 muslims involved in here in a country as the OP stated, is strict about immigration? |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| gangwonbound wrote: |
| crossmr wrote: |
| gangwonbound wrote: |
I think someone was molested by someone from the middle east because he was a little quick to play the racism card there...Go back and play your video games... |
you might want to try smacking your head against the wall there, you seem to be skipping.
seriously..great dig... someone likes video games.. holy shit. You probably couldn't find another person on the forum who likes video games.. shit did you stay up all night trying to figure out the copy and paste just so you could write it again? |
Naa it's just usually children who are quick to jump to label things as racist...The fact that you play video games makes me thing that you are just really immature/a child. |
Tons of adults play video games, man. I am not into video games, myself, but you have all kinds of folks who play them. They say some of the best gamers are women who in many cases are definitely not teenagers. Anyway, what the heck are you guys fighting over now? |
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beast
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| And by the way, everyone on this planet is a racist to some extent. |
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Gemfinder
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:36 am Post subject: |
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If you combine South Asia and the Middle East you have probably two billion people, why would they not be here? How could they not be here? They've been in the E2 seven countries for generations and can come over on a legitimate E2 teaching visa. There are highly educated and skilled workers from all countries; they could be running the factories. Wave to them next time, they are here to tan the species and pass on the creased eyelid.
Pakistan is one of the Next Eleven economies (along with South Korea); they�re not in the lead, but they do have an economy. It�s their government that�s been nonexistent. |
to compare the Pakistani "economy" to South Korea's is truly laughable.
yes, it has little tidbits here and there (like most places) but it's not even in the Next 20.
link please? to "next eleven" and the guidelines/justification for the rankings/placements?
the biggest'/most famous part of the Pakistani "economy" was the selling of secretive nuclear technology via the Dr. Khan network, mostly to so called 'rogue states', such as our buddy Kim Jong Il's North Korea. |
Hello,
-point your browser to www.google.com
-search for "next eleven"
-click on and read the Wikipedia article
-click on the link to the Goldman Sachs Wikipedia article
-under External links, there's a link to the Goldman Sachs homepage, click on that
-click on feedback
-tell them your thoughts about Pakistan
-click send |
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Vox_Populi
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:44 am Post subject: |
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I don't think op was trying to be racist in any way. He was just curious about some fellow foreigners in the city. I, personally, have met many Sri Lankans, Pakistanis, Indians, Iranians (etc) in Seoul. They are here for various reasons. Some have come here for asylum. Some are here for business. Some are here for marriage. There are as many reasons as there are immigrants.
Anyway, if you're really curious, strike up a conversation the next time you meet someone. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:52 am Post subject: |
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aha..
it's the modern day seer, Nostradamus - Goldman Sachs.
the home of endless stock bull - Abby Joseph Cohen.
yes, she was quite right, wasn't she?
Goldman Sachs, yes, they've made out brilliantly forecasting the mortgage crisis, didn't they? (actually they did far better than most)
I know guys who work for Goldman, I've brokered for Goldman traders.. I have a lot of respect for the firm.
but you know.. as Abby Joseph Cohen (and a lot of other examples)..
Goldman isn't always 'right'.
did you even bother to read the beginning of the Wiki article?
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The Next Eleven (or N-11) are eleven countries � Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Mexico, Nigeria, Pakistan, The Philippines, South Korea, Turkey, and Vietnam � identified by Goldman Sachs investment bank as having a high potential of becoming the world's largest economies in the 21st century along with the BRICs. The bank chose these states, all with promising outlooks for investment and future growth, on December 12, 2005.
Goldman Sachs used macroeconomic stability, political maturity, openness of trade and investment policies, and the quality of education as criteria. The N-11 paper is a follow-up to the bank's 2003 paper on the four emerging "BRIC" economies, Brazil, Russia, India, and China.[1] |
I direct your attention to the highlights.
political maturity/stability?
ever hear of the Taliban?
Swat province?
the home of our own fromtheuk, Waziristan?
quality of education??
there was a just a huge article I read in either IHT or Economist or Newsweek describing the school system in Pakistan as a complete and utter failure and how fundamentalist madrassas are filling the gap. (where all they do is learn to recite the Koran)
if you want, I'll find the article for you.
personally, I'll stick with the BRIC's, thank you.
maybe you need more links than just Goldman's predictions in which they were careful to use the word "may become".. not WILL.
they were also talking about investment opportunities.. meaning in Pakistan's case.. it's so utterly shitty now, even if it just returns to regular shitty, there's a whole lot of upside.
how about this link?
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/pk.html
CIA Factbook - Pakistan - 2009.
I like this passage
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| Pakistan, an impoverished and underdeveloped country, has suffered from decades of internal political disputes, low levels of foreign investment, and declining exports of manufactures. Faced with untenable budgetary deficits, high inflation, and hemorrhaging foreign exchange reserves, the government agreed to an International Monetary Fund Standby Arrangement in November 2008. Between 2004-07, GDP growth in the 6-8% range was spurred by gains in the industrial and service sectors, despite severe electricity shortfalls. Poverty levels decreased by 10% since 2001, and Islamabad steadily raised development spending in recent years. In 2008 the fiscal deficit - a result of chronically low tax collection and increased spending - exceeded Islamabad's target of 4% of GDP. Inflation remains the top concern among the public, jumping from 7.7% in 2007 to 24.4% in 2008, primarily because of rising world fuel and commodity prices. In addition, the Pakistani rupee has depreciated significantly as a result of political and economic instability. |
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Labor force:
50.58 million
note: extensive export of labor, mostly to the Middle East, and use of child labor (2008 est.) |
I think the forgot to lump in Korea along with the Middle East in there 
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justaguy
Joined: 01 Jan 2008
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:55 am Post subject: |
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| Vox_Populi wrote: |
I don't think op was trying to be racist in any way. He was just curious about some fellow foreigners in the city. I, personally, have met many Sri Lankans, Pakistanis, Indians, Iranians (etc) in Seoul. They are here for various reasons. Some have come here for asylum. Some are here for business. Some are here for marriage. There are as many reasons as there are immigrants.
Anyway, if you're really curious, strike up a conversation the next time you meet someone. |
I have a better idea. Why don't you go to their home country and strike up a conversation with the locals. I think you might be shocked by what they think about you. |
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Gemfinder
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| bogey666: you're passionate and knowledgeable about the subject, perhaps it's something you should share with Goldman Sachs. Pakistan is not in the lead, they're in the group. |
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bogey666
Joined: 17 Mar 2008
Location: Korea, the ass free zone
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Gemfinder wrote: |
| bogey666: you're passionate and knowledgeable about the subject, perhaps it's something you should share with Goldman Sachs. Pakistan is not in the lead, they're in the group. |
why?
if Goldman wants to pay me what they've been paying Abby Joseph Cohen
who predicted SP of 1600 in early 2008, as it went to 750...
(this coming on heels of her equally bullish stance just before the crash in 2000/2001)
then I'll be HAPPY to offer my "forecasts" to them or for them.
What's also amusing is (and I have private intimate knowledge that this is true) that the bank's prop traders don't always trade in line with the 'forecasts' and predictions printed out for the general public.  |
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Gemfinder
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| Gemfinder wrote: |
| bogey666: you're passionate and knowledgeable about the subject, perhaps it's something you should share with Goldman Sachs. Pakistan is not in the lead, they're in the group. |
why?
if Goldman wants to pay me what they've been paying Abby Joseph Cohen
who predicted SP of 1600 in early 2008, as it went to 750...
(this coming on heels of her equally bullish stance just before the crash in 2000/2001)
then I'll be HAPPY to offer my "forecasts" to them or for them.
What's also amusing is (and I have private intimate knowledge that this is true) that the bank's prop traders don't always trade in line with the 'forecasts' and predictions printed out for the general public. |
ok |
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Vox_Populi
Joined: 04 May 2009
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed May 06, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| justaguy wrote: |
| Vox_Populi wrote: |
I don't think op was trying to be racist in any way. He was just curious about some fellow foreigners in the city. I, personally, have met many Sri Lankans, Pakistanis, Indians, Iranians (etc) in Seoul. They are here for various reasons. Some have come here for asylum. Some are here for business. Some are here for marriage. There are as many reasons as there are immigrants.
Anyway, if you're really curious, strike up a conversation the next time you meet someone. |
I have a better idea. Why don't you go to their home country and strike up a conversation with the locals. I think you might be shocked by what they think about you. |
Road trip!!! |
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Neil
Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: Tokyo
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 1:02 am Post subject: |
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| As Korea is dependant on overseas oil, they probably give generous visas to nationals from oil producing countries in return for getting a favourable deal...I believe thats why it's easy for Nigerians to stay in Korea (and other oil poor Asian countries) and could be true for Middle Easterners. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Thu May 07, 2009 6:57 am Post subject: |
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I've wondered the same thing a few times. One day, I got off the subway at Hannam station to go eat and drink at Bar Merhaba. There was a dark-skinned 25ish Arab guy with a long beard and wearing a white cap, sandals, and a toga who also got off at the same station, probably to go to the mosque or hang out with his buds. I thought he looked really cool and admired how he was unique and bold enough to do his own thing, but I also wondered what job he does in Korea, because he's obviously not working at a hagwon. I mean, can you imagine some of the moms tripping out and shitting a gold brick if they saw him working at their kid's hagwon?
Before I came to Korea, my recruiter's website said for blacks and dark-skinned people to not apply. It made me think that Korea must really dislike dark-skinned people, especially since 1980s singer Gregory Abbott taught English at the University of Cal-Berkeley and is sharp-dressed and as smooth as Billy Dee Williams. Not that he would want to teach at a hagwon, but he couldn't teach at many of them even if he wanted, but they'll hire me when I'm less smooth and less qualified. So, yes, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw so many dark-skinned people in Itaewon and wondered what jobs they do. |
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