| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Gdsgirl
Joined: 05 May 2009 Location: California
|
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:42 pm Post subject: Minorities in Korea |
|
|
Okay! I've heard a lot of different issues on the matter. For those with experience was it hard to get placed? I know many recruiters ask for a photo, I wonder if this is to weed out certain people. Also, which companies work well with this?
THANKS!!! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
alphakennyone

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Location: city heights
|
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| I think a lot of the bigger chains are more open minded. There were a lot of minority teachers when I worked at YES Youngdo (not that I necessarily endorse them). |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
longlocks
Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Location: Busan, South Korea
|
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:37 pm Post subject: Minorities in Korea |
|
|
| I heard the same thing and that actually deterred me from applying a few years ago. I applied with EPIK this year through a recruiter, and I now have a contract for Busan. I write about my experiences in applying in my blog. See the blog by clicking the www button. There is also a facebook group for minorities in Korea. The group is called Brothas and Sistas in South Korea. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Ukon
Joined: 29 Jan 2008
|
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:51 pm Post subject: |
|
|
You'll get harassed by desperate recruiters either way....unless your Indian or Kyopo....
You'll get less job responses then a hot white blonde girl however...I say hit the Public schools....but I know minorities like myself working at all types of hagwons in Seoul... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
|
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
|
|
In K-land, if you're not 'Han' you're a minority.
The Ks hate (almost) everone equally - there's special place in their hearts reserved for the Japanese.
The colour of one's skin has no bearing... except in their minds 'the darker, the dirtier'.  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Bloopity Bloop

Joined: 26 Apr 2009 Location: Seoul yo
|
Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:41 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| cruisemonkey wrote: |
The colour of one's skin has no bearing... except in their minds 'the darker, the dirtier'.  |
I find this this to be true for a lot of Asian countries. During my time abroad in Japan, China, and Taiwan, there were many "whitening products"--and they weren't for your teeth.
It was actually pretty sad in Hong Kong where darker skinned minorities, primarily Filipinos, line many streets wanting jobs. My HK friend told me it was because darker skinned minorities are strongly discriminated against in HK. I was a bit skeptical, but I'm sure that's part of it.
Then again, I think every country in the world treats lighter skinned individuals better (hell, look at Spanish television and take a stroll around LA); it's just super pronounced in Asia.
With regards to Korea, I'd imagine that it could be worse than Japan or China. Can't comment on racism, though. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
|
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 2:54 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| Then again, I think every country in the world treats lighter skinned individuals better... |
Really? Have you ever thought about the current government of Zimbabwe?  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
i_teach_esl

Joined: 07 Sep 2006 Location: baebang, asan/cheonan
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Rory_Calhoun27
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
|
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 6:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
I'm curious- what is the concesus of "Black English Vernacular" for the ESL teachers of African descent? I imagine many South African teachers are as perplexed by the "language" as the indigeneous White Devils of the USA are...  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
alphakennyone

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Location: city heights
|
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
^
That's too nonsensical to be offensive...if that's even what you were going for. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
|
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 9:18 am Post subject: |
|
|
Imagine a black guy standing in front of 72 K kids and utterering these words "I's gonna learn ya ta speak English good."
The Ks had no idea... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
alphakennyone

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Location: city heights
|
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Would they understand it if a white teacher spoke those words? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
D.D.
Joined: 29 May 2008
|
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 2:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Chagwon office of education appears to have equal opportunity hiring as there are lots of minorities working in public schools in Gyeongsang namdo province. I guess you could try there for cities like Chagwon, Gimhae, Jinju, Masan. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
|
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:35 am Post subject: |
|
|
| alphakennyone wrote: |
| Would they understand it if a white teacher spoke those words? |
Of course not... but no 'white' English teacher would speak those words.
His fellow, white Texan spoke these words - "I hate Mexicans and niggers."
The best way to teach what discrimination is all about is to divide the class in two and give only one half 'privileges' based on something they have no control over. When they get 'comfortable' and start treating the other half as less than human, take the privileges away - spin everything 180 degrees. Tears will flow and I guarantee (unless they're autistic) they'll understand. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
alphakennyone

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Location: city heights
|
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 8:13 am Post subject: |
|
|
A white person might indeed say something similar. I'd say "ebonics" (in its true form) is fairly loosely tied to race and more closely tied to the rural poor and a lack of education, despite what some white south africans (i still have no idea what that was that all about?) might think.
Two examples I've overheard in Seoul spoken by white servicemen (there ya go, rural poor):
"I ain't been over there." (using ain't in place of don't/haven't/etc instead of just "am not" is considered ebonics)
"I'm fixin ta set down" (this isn't really ebonics, but it's still uneducated-speak).
Sorry, I find poking at ebonics to be racist. In Japan one of my students said the newscaster remarked how Obama "spoke like a white man." I corrected him and said he spoke like an educated person. As far as I'm concerned, the only guy who sounds strangely "white" is Tony Gwynn.
Hell, and I'm not even a minority! |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|