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[PeteJB]

I think they did a good job with what they had. The movie would've been too long otherwise.

[blurgalurgalurga]

They can make a proper bad guy in the next movie, when they have time. This one was all about establishing the principals. Number two can be the Wrath of Whoever.
I thought Bana made a silk purse from a mangled pig's ear, personally. Not much character there to work with, but he did a good job of it.

[Rory_Calhoun27]

A Trek series is usually just as good as its villains. The original gave us the klingons, TNG didn't get into a groove until the Borg came up in a big way in the 2nd or 3rd season, and DS9's plot didnt take off until the Gamma quadrent bad guys started to invade. y tu, Odo?

Enterprise tried to salvage the show with the Xindi or whatever it was, but too late to save a netlet-Trek. so the next Trek movie has some big shoes to fill in creating a villain that isn't just a retread of someone else.


And on a side-note, I always think of Spock with a sense of irony. The coldly logical Vulcans were in a way spawned by the two Koreas. It's like Gene Roddenberry thought, "OK, how about if the Koreans were HYPER-logical?" Romulans and North Korea? Pretty much, same-same I think...

[red_devil]

I thought it was one of the better Trek movies to date. I love the new design on the original Enterprise especially how they showed the phaser turrets. I almost stood up in my chair and cheered to see Leonard Nemoy with pointy ears again, probably for the last time but the lack of a Shatner was sorely missed...i thought they could have done one of those 10 seconds of video after the credits showing an older Shatner (well how he looks now anyways) at his house overlooking the mountains recollecting something about the story and then walking out on his balcony and looking up at the stars with a wistful look...the Marvel movies do such a good job of those.

[wylies99]

[Robot_Teacher]

They need to make a Voyager movie. I thought the Voyager series topped it in being so highly technically thought out and interesting. How the science, business, and story come together made it top notch, but a bit much for most people to take in full appreciation.

I hope the new movie can do something for me. I hope a new real Star trek series comes about.

[postfundie]

[Captain Corea]

I thought this was one of the best ST movies so far.

[Ya-ta Boy]

I had fairly low expectations and things didn't start out very well. Everyone knows James T. Kirk was born in Riverside, Iowa--or why else would there be a memorial in Riverside comemorating where he will be born? But once we got it established that is where he grew up, then it was OK except for the silliness of that chasm and all that flat land.

After that, it was pretty darn good. I liked how they kept the relationships between the characters but gave Uhuru a new interest. I enjoyed the series when I was in high school, so the characters are important to me. I hope the new movies get back to more plot oriented themes rather than exploding everything in sight.

I give it two thumbs up since it is a new beginning. I hope it lives well and prospers.

[postfundie]

[pkang0202]

[Privateer]

Didn't like it. I had the same reaction I usually get when they make a movie out of a book I love, and ride roughshod over all the bits that seem important to me.

Spock, for example, is obviously a key part, and the actor they got to play him is really talented so I can only blame the director for the misinterpretation of the role. Since when does Spock show so much emotion? Fire, when the board (by implication) insult his mother? If Spock makes verbal put downs to win an argument it's always a victory for logic, not a personal victory, or, at least, he cannot allow himself to be aware that it's personal. Otherwise it's just not Spock. And why do supposedly emotionless Vulcan kids pick on the different one? Because by showing how discriminating against differences is bad, the director is able to publically position his movie morally on the side of good? It certainly wasn't to give us insight into Spock the character, because the effect on his character of that same tension between Vulcan dispassion and human passion has been portrayed so much more effectively and economically through other means in previous Star Trek movies and episodes. And why do all the Vulcans have British accents in this film? Vulcans aren't emotionless now, they're just stuffy?

Meanwhile James T Kirk's character follows the familiar and predictable, and frankly boring, storyline from directionless 'bad' boy to hero who learns to shoulder responsibility and find his destiny, but why should I care when no more than lip service was paid to creating the character Captain Kirk that we all know? He's shown as sexist but not charismatic, and arrogant but without either the fighting spirit to back it up - does he even get one punch in during that bar room brawl? - or the flair to downplay his defeat.

There were a lot of good things about the movie, but for me the development of the characters was disappointing.

[Looney]

[wuzza]

[blurgalurgalurga]

I thought emo-Spock was good. He's just a kid after all...he'll hit absolute zero later on in the timeline.