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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Didn't the US Embassy put out a note recently about being prepared, and keeping an escape backpack handy should you have to leave quickly? What would you put in such a backpack?
Some ideas:
Water
Plastic bags
Cup
Small knife
Compass
Aspirin
Snack food
Extra pairs of Glasses/contacts
Binoculars
Toothbrush/paste
Shoes
Socks (2 pair)
Thermal blanket
Bug spray
Sunscreen
Hat
Scarf
gloves
Underwear
Sweatshirt
Mosquito net
Small radio
Toilet paper
Multi-tool
Flashlight
Matches
Soap
Nail clippers
Scissors (for cutting off the maple leaf if necessary for airlift)
Passport
Some US dollars? |
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shifter2009
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Location: wisconsin
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
Didn't the US Embassy put out a note recently about being prepared, and keeping an escape backpack handy should you have to leave quickly? What would you put in such a backpack?
Some ideas:
Water
Plastic bags
Cup
Small knife
Compass
Aspirin
Snack food
Extra pairs of Glasses/contacts
Binoculars
Toothbrush/paste
Shoes
Socks (2 pair)
Thermal blanket
Bug spray
Sunscreen
Hat
Scarf
gloves
Underwear
Sweatshirt
Mosquito net
Small radio
Toilet paper
Multi-tool
Flashlight
Matches
Soap
Nail clippers
Scissors (for cutting off the maple leaf if necessary for airlift)
Passport
Some US dollars? |
You forgot kimchi. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Enough politics. I want to know practicalities. What do we DO if there's an attack? I have an emergency bag packed, but where do I go? I'm assuming I'll be on foot, or on stolen bicycle. Options:
--head for the Canadian embassy on bicycle
--head to the basement of my building, hide out bunker-style
--head for the nearest subway station, hide out bunker-style
--head for the airport in Incheon (how? hitch a ride? bike?)
--stay in my apartment, hope for the best
--head south, avoiding people in general
I'm in Mokdong. Seriously, I would love to hear other people's thoughts on this. If there's an attack, what's the plan? I know there's a small chance of real trouble. But it's good to be somewhat prepared, no? |
At least you're south of the Han. If the Norks can't finish that Luxor Hotel they've been trying to build for decades, getting across rivers would probably be a challenge for them.
If I was in Mokdong and the city started getting shelled, I take a compass, a big bottle of Cass that I could refill at streams with water, plenty of food, gold pieces and money, and two knives and get out of there and go south.
I would be afraid of getting assaulted or murdered for being an American. I think it would be very likely that some people would be very angry at foreigners, especially those who are white or look white. I think a white person walking around would hear, "Puck you, this is all pucking America's fault!" and so on. I'd wrap up my head and face in a shemagh, try to go down less crowded streets, keep my mouth shut, and keep moving. I would avoid roads so I could avoid people. The heavy traffic down major roads would cause shortages of things you need, and a surplus of people blaming you for the destruction of Seoul and the collapse of the Korean economy. Plus, if you go through fields and forests, you could pick a few berries, apples, and whatnot along the way. I'd get enough sleep and use my shemagh as a blanket, wake up, and continue south avoiding people, except for US soldiers or anyone on the coast with a good boat. |
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detourne_me
Joined: 26 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Today my classes were shortened at my middle school. "Disaster training" during 6th period |
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nspidle
Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
Didn't the US Embassy put out a note recently about being prepared, and keeping an escape backpack handy should you have to leave quickly? What would you put in such a backpack?
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I didn't get that memo! I've been looking to the embassy for direction. So far they have been pretty worthless. http://seoul.usembassy.gov/ Am I looking at the right place?
BTW I'm in Geumchon, 10 Km from the NKR border. ugh.
Question: What will be the trigger for you to leave the country? |
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Whistleblower
Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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My wife is getting really worried about her family and friends in Korea. She can see N. Korea attacking and this latest rhetoric is even stronger than before. She also mentions that in the Korean media, they are getting very very worried and can't believe there are skirmishes on the border between the two Koreas.
The current S. Korean administration have cut all the funding and support for N. Korea. The norks hate that but it would be chaos if the norks decided to invade the South.
If there is a war I hope you are able to get back home. It just doesn't look nice at the moment. |
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poeticjustice
Joined: 28 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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I strongly hope that everyone here has a back up plan to get the hell out. |
Does hitchhiking to Daegu count as a plan?
I'm going to go against the flow here and just recommend everyone to stay put. There are plenty of quiet places in Gyeonggi-do that have no reasonable military targets around, such as in a smaller city/town or in the countryside. Go camping or something, stay off the radar.
Everybody--and I mean everybody is going to be clogging the highways. It's going to be like Chuseok on crack. You're best bet is to gather your friends, find somewhere quiet and stay put. |
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lithium
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| gojulie wrote: |
I like how many of your escape plans involve stealing a bicycle/moped as if they are just going to be lying around and the 30 million Koreans you live with would never have similar thoughts.
This is perfect and exactly what I thought. Of all the threads I have been reading and talking to friends, it seems that everyone has the same idea. It's going to be SOOO easy to steal a bike/motorbike.
Better to invest in one now and pray you actually know how to ride if thats your only plan. |
Exactly what I've been thinking and saying (see my posts above). Buy a bike, start going cycling in the weekends and see the countryside. then, even if the bombs don't fall you'll end up with shapely legs and a bum you can crack walnuts with 
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=11799660100 |
Kiwi, please stick with teaching and leave the jokes to the professionals.  |
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nspidle
Joined: 28 Apr 2009
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EzeWong
Joined: 26 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| dmbfan wrote: |
I strongly hope that everyone here has a back up plan to get the hell out. |
Does hitchhiking to Daegu count as a plan?
I'm going to go against the flow here and just recommend everyone to stay put. There are plenty of quiet places in Gyeonggi-do that have no reasonable military targets around, such as in a smaller city/town or in the countryside. Go camping or something, stay off the radar.
Everybody--and I mean everybody is going to be clogging the highways. It's going to be like Chuseok on crack. You're best bet is to gather your friends, find somewhere quiet and stay put. |
Nice try buddy.
I see what you did there. You have all of us stay put so when you start packing your bags to Daegu there won't be forigners flowing up your traffic...
I'm staying put, but before I do, I'm picking up red cloth, a staunchy fake black mustache, a beret, and all the marxists books my house can hold.
When they knock on my door, I'll have dyed red Beer, equally shapped and sized potatoe chips, and a hellevua lot of RED kimchi filed and sorted.
WELCOME BREATHEREN to my communist abode. Please sit, be merry and I'll grab some equal opportunity wenches to serve us red socialist beer."
That's unless of course they drop a missle, in which case, I'm one F***ed communist.
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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There is certainly a lot more chatter on Dave's about this kind of stuff than usual.  |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| lithium wrote: |
| kiwiduncan wrote: |
| gojulie wrote: |
I like how many of your escape plans involve stealing a bicycle/moped as if they are just going to be lying around and the 30 million Koreans you live with would never have similar thoughts.
This is perfect and exactly what I thought. Of all the threads I have been reading and talking to friends, it seems that everyone has the same idea. It's going to be SOOO easy to steal a bike/motorbike.
Better to invest in one now and pray you actually know how to ride if thats your only plan. |
Exactly what I've been thinking and saying (see my posts above). Buy a bike, start going cycling in the weekends and see the countryside. then, even if the bombs don't fall you'll end up with shapely legs and a bum you can crack walnuts with
http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=11799660100 |
Kiwi, please stick with teaching and leave the jokes to the professionals. |
I wasn't joking. In fact, I'm still pulling out bits of walnut shell as we speak. |
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Goku
Joined: 10 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Nice try buddy.
I see what you did there. You have all of us stay put so when you start packing your bags to Daegu there won't be forigners flowing up your traffic...
I'm staying put, but before I do, I'm picking up red cloth, a staunchy fake black mustache, a beret, and all the marxists books my house can hold.
When they knock on my door, I'll have dyed red Beer, equally shapped and sized potatoe chips, and a hellevua lot of RED kimchi filed and sorted.
WELCOME BREATHEREN to my communist abode. Please sit, be merry and I'll grab some equal opportunity wenches to serve us red socialist beer."
That's unless of course they drop a missle, in which case, I'm one F***ed communist. |
1 western communist teacher per militant take-over please.
It's kind of futile to run to airports, they would crammed with people. The best we could do is flock to US bases and just hope they are safe. Ironically it would probably be the most dangerous place ... but I'd take my chances at a US base instead of out in the "wilderness" and be shot like a deer. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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Although it was the least of my considerations when choosing my current job, I'm probably in about the best and safest location in the country should shit hit the fan. Not only am I near nothing the Norks would ever hit (unless a missile went way off target), but I'm a 1-2 day walk from likely evacuation centres (I can walk very far in a day, btw).
I wonder what would happen at schools if something really big broke out. Presumably many male teachers under 40 would be called away, so there'd be a lot of extra lessons to cover. |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Goku wrote: |
PS. I'm not totally against communism in reality. Much like democracy they are both extreme philosophies to deal with government, both equally good and bad in certain situations. Ideally, I'd be communist because I'm more of a believer in collectivism than Idealism. (Meaning group needs take paramount over individual needs). |
Communism and capitalism are different sides of the same coin. Both involve a small elite group at the top frightening the masses with bogeymen and exhorting them to keep on working - and consuming the world's limited resources - for the good of the nation. Both systems base themselves on a model of infiniate economic growth, in a world of prety much finite resources
I believe the system is one in which people realize looking after their own individual needs and desires and best achieved by looking after the needs of their community as well. But in order to achieve this you probably need a fairly small community of relatively like-minded individuals. Ideally this community should be able operate relatively self-sufficiently, sustainably and without too much interference from other communities.
So what I'm advocating is that we all move to the countryside together and set up a walnut growing collective. You guys can plant the trees and harvest the nuts. And I'll crack them. |
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