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[Yaya]

WASHINGTON (AP) - North Korea's nuclear threats are grabbing the world's attention. But if the North were to strike South Korea today, it would probably first try to savage Seoul with the men and missiles of its huge conventional army.
The attack might well begin with artillery and missiles capable of hitting South Korea's capital with little or no warning. North Korea's vast cadre of commandos could try to infiltrate and cause chaos while the South tried to respond.

The hair-trigger nature of the danger is reflected in the pledge of preparedness that American ground forces stationed just below the North-South divide have lived by for decades: "Fight tonight."

If it came to war, destruction�civilian and military�would be heavy, even if the North held back whatever nuclear weapons it may have. The consensus American view, generally shared by allies, is that the South would prevail but at enormous human cost, including a refugee crisis on the Korean peninsula.

Fears of military conflict have increased this week, particularly regarding disputed waters off the western coast, after North Korea conducted an apparent nuclear test on Monday and then renounced the armistice that has kept relative peace between the Koreas. It has held since the two sides fought to a standstill�with the U.S. and the U.N. backing the South and China and Russia supporting the North�in the 1950-53 Korean War.

The North is threatening to respond in "self defense" if the U.N. Security Council imposes more sanctions as punishment for the nuclear test, which Washington and others say violated previous U.N. resolutions.

At the outset of the Korean War, which began 59 years ago next month, North Korean armor rolled across the border, catching the South by surprise. An emergency U.S. defense effort initially crumbled, and the North's forces almost succeeded in pushing the Americans off the tip of the peninsula.

U.S. and South Korean forces have had nearly six decades to anticipate how a renewed attack might unfold and how they would respond. The expectation is that the North would slip commandos, commonly called special operating forces, across the Demilitarized Zone that divides the North and South or into southern waters aboard small submarines to carry out sabotage and assassination.

In congressional testimony in March, the commander of U.S. forces in Korea, Gen. Walter L. Sharp, estimated that the North has more than 80,000 such commandos. He said it is the largest special operating force in the world, with "tough, well-trained and profoundly loyal troops" who are capable of clandestine missions such as sabotaging critical civilian infrastructure as well as attacking military targets.

The South has had glimpses of the commando capabilities. Until recent years the North would routinely infiltrate agents across the DMZ. One of its submarines ran aground in South Korea during a failed spying mission in 1996.

Sharp said North Korea's army is the world's fourth largest with 1.2 million troops on active duty, backed by as many as 7 million reserves, with an estimated 1,700 military aircraft, 800 naval vessels and more than 13,000 artillery pieces. The numbers do not tell the entire story, though. Much of the North's equipment is old and decrepit, and it lacks the high-tech reconnaissance capabilities of the South.

Sharp did not mention chemical weapons, but it is widely believed the North has a chemical capability that it could unleash in the early stages of a land war to demoralize defending forces and deny the use of mobilization centers, storage areas and military bases.

Complicating the defensive calculations of the South and its American allies is the immutable fact that Seoul, with a population of about 10 million, lies about 35 miles south of the DMZ�within easy range of much of the North's artillery.

"It's a very, very direct route. That's always been the problem, right from the early days," said Kerry Brown, an Asia analyst at London's Chatham House think tank. "It's very vulnerable to a sudden, savage all-out military attack."

Robert W. RisCassi, a retired four-star Army general who commanded U.S. forces in Korea from 1990-93, said in a telephone interview Friday that the North's navy is no match for the South's and its air forces are weak and overmatched. Resources, including fuel, are a major limitation for the North.

"They don't fly enough hours to be really proficient," RisCassi said of the North Korean air force.

North Korea can be reached by U.S. Air Force F-16 jets from bases in northern Japan in about 30 minutes, and a squadron of new-generation F-22 fighters should deploy to the southern Japan island of Okinawa on Saturday. North Korea has been shrilly critical of the F-22 deployment, announced well before this week's nuclear test, because the fighters�which are difficult to detect on radar and capable of cruising at supersonic speed�are seen by the North as a threat to its air defenses.

The U.S. Navy's 7th Fleet, based just south of Tokyo, has two destroyers focused on North Korea at all times, meaning they are either in the Sea of Japan or can get there on short notice.

RisCassi said Kim Jong Il, the reclusive leader of North Korea, lost any "bolt-out-of-the-blue" invasion option he may have enjoyed when U.S. and South Korean forces were placed on heightened alert earlier this week.

"Whether he wants to play that card, no one knows, but I think he knows that if he plays it, he's going to lose and he's going to lose North Korea," RisCassi said.

Although the U.S. has a relatively small ground force of about 28,500 troops in South Korea, the key to American support in the event of a sudden invasion would air and naval power. The U.S. has fighters, bombers and an array of other Air Force and Navy warplanes not only stationed in South Korea but also at bases in Japan, Guam and elsewhere in the Pacific.

http://www.breitbart.com/print.php?id=D98G474O1&show_article=1

[grunden]

Yawn.



time to go out and get some cass beer.

[chris_J2]

A huge difference between the 1950-53, & 2009 conflict(s)?, which appears to have been almost totally overlooked, is that China & Russia were supporting DPRK, both directly & indirectly in the Korean War, in a proxy Cold War against the US. This time, the pariah state of DPRK, is almost totally on its own. China has only to cut off all oil, water, food, & munitions supplies, & it's all over in a matter of days, if not hours.

The DPRK has successfully alienated both China & Russia, in the past week.

[bundangbabo]

And to add to Chris J2's post = the Korean peoples air force is stock from the 1960s with the pilots having little to no flying hours - they don't have much of a navy either.

A few stealth bombers can smash a fanatical, well trained ground force within no time if that ground force doesn't have air support. (The Iraqi Republican Guard was a battle hardened unit which was probably better trained than anything the North Koreans have got)

If North Korea decide to launch a strike - it will be the last thing they will do - now lets go and eat some galbi!

[samd]

[SOOHWA101]

I think that most people are over looking the obvious here. What makes everyone think that their assault would be conventional?

They have been developing biological and chemical weapons for decades now. This info can easily be found, as well as how terrified the U.S. military is; they have zero contingency plan for a bio/chem assault. This whole penn. would be locked down.

[patongpanda]

[brento1138]

I think it's still unclear whether North Korea is:

A) A suicidal death-cult

B) A clever, calculating, survival-based regime with aims only to keep the elite in power

If North Korea attacks, then A is true. If nothing happens, B is true. So far, I'm leaning towards B.

[Rory_Calhoun27]

[cangel]

The author is a security writer? What a knob. He obviously knows nothing of the geography we're dealing with and basic military strategy. The only thing the North could do outside of winter is attack with missiles, mortars and field artillery. The area between the north and south is either devoid of vegetation (so both sides can see the other side coming), and or covered in rice fields. Hard to march an army through a foot of mud and most vehicles would also be bogged down. No, winter is the time to attack when things are nice and frozen for their million man army.

[Johnny_Bravo]

[Rory_Calhoun27]

Now Desert Storm I- that was a work in how to dismantle the world's 4th largest army!


That USED to be the Iraqi army, headed by the Republican Guard, back in the 90s. How long did the "war" last the first time around? "The 100 hour war," I think? Those smart-bombs! and to think, there were no Predator drones back then..... or maybe that's what they wantcha to think!

[Johnny_Bravo]

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[Johnny_Bravo]