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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| tsgarp wrote: |
| Angry? I couldn't be less so. I just shoot from the hip. Corporal, judging by the tenor of your posts one could make some interesting remarks about you . |
See, if you restricted your interesting remarks to me and me alone you'd be well within your rights to speculate, but when you bring family members into it, that's just wrong and not something I forget or forgive easily. I don't talk about feeling sorry for your wife, now do I? Should we drag up that post where you referred to my husband for everyone to read again? Perhaps if you could be big enough to apologize we could start over. Otherwise, I won't bother worrying about the "tenor" of my posts as far as you're concerned. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| this isn't a discussion board, it's a mutual appreciation society and I got out of line for not being on your happy happy joy joy ride. So, fat out, eat two burgers while you're at it, one for you and one for me. |
Do you realise what you have just done?
You have just admitted that the apologists for the West are more positive and friendly than the apologists for Korean culture.
This is truly one for the ages. |
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tsgarp
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
| tsgarp wrote: |
| this isn't a discussion board, it's a mutual appreciation society and I got out of line for not being on your happy happy joy joy ride. So, fat out, eat two burgers while you're at it, one for you and one for me. |
Do you realise what you have just done?
You have just admitted that the apologists for the West are more positive and friendly than the apologists for Korean culture.
This is truly one for the ages. |
What the hell areyou talking about? Are these people apologists? Are you? Seems everyone is trying to deny this label and you go and wave it proudly. Whatever. |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:01 am Post subject: |
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| Australian Beef tastes different because it is grass fed vs corn fed. Argentine beef is now big in demand in the States for people who want a more flavorful beef. Actually this is kind of backwards, it's the corn fed beef that's off in flavor. I think this is why I've heard NA's complain about Korean beef but I've never heard Aussies or Kiwis complain. |
See, that's the thing, though. I did notice the difference between American and Aussie beef when I lived down under, but I still liked it, and home burgers weren't much more expensive than going to Hungry Jack's(which also had a different taste, that I grew to like, actually). I thought that the different taste was due to the different cows used, but I stand corrected.
Here in Cheonan, it can be hard to find hamburger buns, and the beef will run 6,000 and end up only making 1 and 1/2 hamburgers. Eating an expensive burger on friggin' slices of bread is kiddie stuff.
Food is largely a matter of economics for me here in Korea, since I can't read most of the labelling...now that I've got more info on Korean beef, I might give it another go. I do like to eat the purer, healthier stuff when possible. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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What the hell areyou talking about? Are these people apologists? Are you? Seems everyone is trying to deny this label and you go and wave it proudly. Whatever. |
Expats who favour Western culture over Korean culture are usually labelled as "whiners". Except they are not whining on this thread, are they? In fact, the essence of your argument is that they are being too positive. This dispells the myth that those who favour Korean culture are happier than those who search harder for what they like. But of course, it is useless to make any intelligent, logical discussion on these forums, because when you say something positive for once you are flamed for being positive about the wrong things.
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| this isn't a discussion board, it's a mutual appreciation society |
My, this is a revelation. Especially when this board is often criticised for being the exact opposite. Thank you for clearing up this misunderstanding.
Is this what learning the language does to you? Do your social and verbal perceptions become so iredeemably twisted that you interpret everything as an insult and a loss of face? |
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tsgarp
Joined: 01 Dec 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Barking Mad Lord Snapcase"]
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| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
What the hell areyou talking about? Are these people apologists? Are you? Seems everyone is trying to deny this label and you go and wave it proudly. Whatever. |
Expats who favour Western culture over Korean culture are usually labelled as "whiners". Except they are not whining on this thread, are they? In fact, the essence of your argument is that they are being too positive. This dispells the myth that those who favour Korean culture are happier than those who search harder for what they like. But of course, it is useless to make any intelligent, logical discussion on these forums, because when you say something positive for once you are flamed for being positive about the wrong things.
| tsgarp wrote: |
| this isn't a discussion board, it's a mutual appreciation society |
My, this is a revelation. Especially when this board is often criticised for being the exact opposite. Thank you for clearing up this misunderstanding.
Is this what learning the language does to you? Do your social and verbal perceptions become so iredeemably twisted that you interpret everything as an insult and a loss of face? |
The mutual appreciation society comment was meant to be sarcastic, but nice try, quoting me out of context. again, I'm not telling anyone not to go to Friday's, I simply gave my view of it and other corporate feed lots which happens to be negative. You got your widdle biddy feelings all in a knot cuz I mocked the livestock who feel the need to fatten themselves up on such subpar fare and then crow about it as if it were a good thing.
When did this become a pro vs. anti West thing? If you note, I'm all in favor of more culinary choice of all types as long as it's GOOD. Not that fried, goopy, oversalted, sugary schlock that currently has 30% of us Americans suffocating under our own obesity (that's not counting all the lardasses that are not counted as obese but are still fat as all get out).
Yeah, that's right, us Americans. What makes you think I'm "learning the language"? I've made several references in the past to my home country. I'm a good old boy from Down South. I grew up on grits and sausage gravy. As much as I love the South, to paraphrase Scarlett O'Hara, "I swear before god in heaven, I shall never eat Southern again." Actually I'll just never eat crappy food again. I will continue to eat okra and pulled pork bbq. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| When did this become a pro vs. anti West thing? If you note, I'm all in favor of more culinary choice of all types as long as it's GOOD. Not that fried, goopy, oversalted, sugary schlock that currently has 30% of us Americans suffocating under our own obesity (that's not counting all the lardasses that are not counted as obese but are still fat as all get out). |
If it's a health issue, then great. Perhaps we need more (intelligent, objective and honest) discussion of this subject on the board. The problem is, from this thread and your treatment of Corporal and her family, it is apparent that you cannot resist the temptation to be personally insulting.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't positive discussion supposed to be a rarity here? Or is it actually forbidden? Perhaps I need to be enlightened on this subject.
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| Yeah, that's right, us Americans. What makes you think I'm "learning the language"? I've made several references in the past to my home country. I'm a good old boy from Down South. I grew up on grits and sausage gravy. As much as I love the South, to paraphrase Scarlett O'Hara, "I swear before god in heaven, I shall never eat Southern again." Actually I'll just never eat crappy food again. I will continue to eat okra and pulled pork bbq. |
I thought that you might be American. I was making a reference to expats who seem to believe that it is vital to completely change one's way of thinking in order to live in Korea at all. I was enthusiastic about studying Korea's culture, hanguel script and spoken language. I found that the culture - where Confucianism and its strange capitalist incarnation was involved - was mostly impossible to agree with, yet had that indescribable, irrestistable "Jumping Mad Busker" appeal as a reading subject; hanguel was fun to learn; and the spoken language placed a distant third priority in spare time research. All three are worth the time to learn, but some seem to miss the point - some posters here seem to be so immersed in the culture that they can't seem to find their way out. They seem to be too eager to brag that they are (somehow) more Korean than the average Korean, and put down anyone who isn't. Austin is one obvious example. You sound like another.
I'm glad that you are drawing from your own personal experience. Your mistake was in making baseless assumptions about the experience and character of others, while revealing too much about your own character. |
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The King of Kwangju
Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City
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| Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Careful, Snapcase - your stereotypes are showing. |
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