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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Dude, get over it. Needed or not needed, even when the abbreviation USA is used, the article is what makes it sound right. "I am from the USA," when spoken aloud, doesn't sound awkward at all, it sounds correct. I just tried it. Wait, I just tried it again. Yup, it sounds
right.
In fact, if I were interviewing someone and they said, "I am from USA," I would think that they mispoke themselves, were hung way over, or were a Russian Austrian masquerading as a native English speaker!
'I have a degree from USA.' Is that like USC? "I have a degree from USC,' sounds OK.
Whatever. This just got under my skin. |
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creeper1
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:16 pm Post subject: most likely |
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I note that you are interested in hagwon positions for the better salary that they offer. You are also looking for Seoul?
I imagine that you are asking for something like 2.5 - 2.6 million won.
High unemployment in the west means that you will be competing against younger guys (and girls!) willing to take less money.
Be more flexible with regard to location and lower your salary expectations. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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It's the diploma.
Recruiters don't have the time to bother with you if you don't have it. Seriously. They have learned that people without degrees in-hand are a waste of time until they get them in-hand. |
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asylum seeker
Joined: 22 Jul 2007
Location: On your computer screen.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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It sounds to me like the lack of jobs in western countries is starting to effect the job market here, with a greater number of job seekers heading over. Not that it will be impossible to get a job but to get a good one in a desirable area will become more difficult because of greater competition.
An Adult teaching job in Seoul is one of the most sought after positions which is why many of them offer such bad conditions (2.1 with no accommodation) but have no problem hiring teachers. |
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WoBW
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: HBC
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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OP,
What bassexpander said is spot on. Most hagwons don't plan ahead, and teachers quit without notice or get fired. In other words, unless you have ALL of your documents to hand and are 'ready to go' as soon as your visa can be processed, most recruiters will simply put you on the back burner.
I applied for, and accepted, two hagwon jobs from outside Korea. In both cases they wanted my documents express mailed immediately and I was on a plane as soon as my visa was done - each time was within about 3 weeks.
From a slightly different perspective, I also got two hagwon jobs when I was already in Seoul. One wanted me to start the Monday following the interview, the other wanted me to start the very next day! Different situation there, but it illustrates that hagwons are usually looking for teachers who are available immediately (or as soon as your visa can be processed).
When you can say to a recruiter that you have everything in hand and can be in Korea ASAP you will get offers. |
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Darkray16
Joined: 09 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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The USA is a country in North America.
That is not correct.
USA is a country in North America.
Is correct.
I am from the states. I am from The United States. I am from the US. All are accurate. But I am from the USA. Say it aloud and see how awkward it sounds.
When you say the United States of America, then of course you use the definite article, but it is not needed with the abbreviation.
Yes, in some circumstances it sounds ok, but I have a degree from the USA. Read it aloud and see how choppy and awkward it sounds. |
Yea looks like you should recheck your own grammar. As far as I know, using an alphabetism/initialism doesn't change the grammatical usage of the phrase. There are some exceptions though that I cannot think of off the top of my head.
Anyways, if I can't find a job teaching adults what do you guys suggest is the best way to prepare myself for finding one later? I eventually want to head back to the States and work in an English Institute there, so I need relevant work experience, not just babysitting. Do you guys suggest I try to find a high school teaching job as a backup plan? |
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wesharris
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| frankly speaking wrote: |
The USA is a country in North America.
That is not correct.
USA is a country in North America.
Is correct.
I am from the states. I am from The United States. I am from the US. All are accurate. But I am from the USA. Say it aloud and see how awkward it sounds.
When you say the United States of America, then of course you use the definite article, but it is not needed with the abbreviation.
Yes, in some circumstances it sounds ok, but I have a degree from the USA. Read it aloud and see how choppy and awkward it sounds. |
It's and I say this while BEING American.
I am from THE USA
That's how it works.
USA stands for United States of America. Which is a country, but you add the because of the construction of the words.
If you say, I am from America. You are correct ,because it is a single word. Please sir realize that it sounds proper, and your hearing diaphram is currently out of whack.
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:21 am Post subject: |
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| frankly speaking wrote: |
The USA is a country in North America.
That is not correct.
USA is a country in North America.
Is correct.
I am from the states. I am from The United States. I am from the US. All are accurate. But I am from the USA. Say it aloud and see how awkward it sounds.
When you say the United States of America, then of course you use the definite article, but it is not needed with the abbreviation.
Yes, in some circumstances it sounds ok, but I have a degree from the USA. Read it aloud and see how choppy and awkward it sounds. |
I am from the states. Now, that sounds quite strange, unless you are British.  |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 12:27 am Post subject: |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| frankly speaking wrote: |
The USA is a country in North America.
That is not correct.
USA is a country in North America.
Is correct.
I am from the states. I am from The United States. I am from the US. All are accurate. But I am from the USA. Say it aloud and see how awkward it sounds.
When you say the United States of America, then of course you use the definite article, but it is not needed with the abbreviation.
Yes, in some circumstances it sounds ok, but I have a degree from the USA. Read it aloud and see how choppy and awkward it sounds. |
I am from the states. Now, that sounds quite strange, unless you are British. |
You can write, for example: "He is from from USA." However, you can only do this if you are Korean, and then your teacher can add the missing article "the".  |
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