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Captain Corea
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GwangjuParents
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| You'd almost think he was Hispanic judging by the way he spoke. |
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kiwiduncan
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| I was pretty impressed by the piano playing cat too. |
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Cheonmunka
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If I were there with my .44 ...
Makes me sick looking at the #^@&er. |
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Otherside
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| GwangjuParents wrote: |
| You'd almost think he was Hispanic judging by the way he spoke. |
Hispanic with a French accent?
I always wonder what someone like him must think about the whole North Korean issue, as he is one of the few people who've had complete access the NK regime (I'd assume) and has had a Western education (In Switzerland, if I'm not mistaken...hence the accent), as well as clearly being able to travel quite freely. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: |
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| Otherside wrote: |
| GwangjuParents wrote: |
| You'd almost think he was Hispanic judging by the way he spoke. |
Hispanic with a French accent?
I always wonder what someone like him must think about the whole North Korean issue, as he is one of the few people who've had complete access the NK regime (I'd assume) and has had a Western education (In Switzerland, if I'm not mistaken...hence the accent), as well as clearly being able to travel quite freely. |
I'd be like, "Hell yeah, I get to be THAT GUY now!" |
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soviet_man
Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul
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Jong-nam clearly isn't an active part of the succession plan. That much is clear.
You can imagine that the old guard in Pyongyang see him as a little "too gangsta" to fit any leadership role, as a result of him being out of the DPRK so much (which was probably deliberate to prevent rivalry).
His brother on the other hand is more an unknown quantity. |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
If I were there with my .44 ...
Makes me sick looking at the #^@&er. |
jeez man, it's just a cat |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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You obviously didn't see the smiley contemptious f%$#er KJI's son.
You guys make out like he's some laughable buffoon. While he hangs out in Macau's casinos wasting his people's money ... there are children in labor camps. I translated part of a book, written by (well transcribed for him) a man who managed to escape from a prison village. His grandfather was put in this camp, which is behind electric fences and under armed guard, because he opposed the state in some way. Well, the grandfather's kids were put in there, too. The boy who wrote the story was a toddler. He escaped when he was 29. His mother was executed (shot) in front of him about three years ago.
Look, this is not a distant past. These are huge prison camps in the country parts of NK. Tens of kids washed away while building a dam collapses. Kids in slave labor and dying in labor.
F&^%. Look, this KJI's son is not laughable. He's contemptible. If I saw him ....
When I read about the guards, one who beat a nine year old girl to death for having five corn seeds in her pocket ... Man. KJI should be dead. That his lineage of mentally challenged offspring will continue his reign of terror insults humanity. |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
You obviously didn't see the smiley contemptious f%$#er KJI's son.
You guys make out like he's some laughable buffoon. While he hangs out in Macau's casinos wasting his people's money ... there are children in labor camps. I translated part of a story and read a book written by a man who managed to escape from a prison village. His grandfather was put in there because he opposed the state in some way. Well, the grandfather's kids were put in there, too. The boy who wrote the story was a toddler. He escaped when he was 29. His mother was executed (shot) in front of him about three years ago.
Look, this KJI's son is not laughable. He's contemptible. If I saw him, and I had a gun, he will be dead.
When I read about the guards, one who beat a nine year old girl to death for having five corn seeds in her pocket ... Man. KJI should be dead. That his lineage of mentally challenged offspring will continue his reign of terror insults humanity. |
I know, I was just kidding about the cat.
I agree with you that KJI, his sons and cohorts are very nasty pieces of work. To me the most surprising thing about the brief interview was just how normal and human Kim Jong Nam appears to be. By saying he's human I'm in no way implying he's humane or decent, just that he's a fairly normal looking guy and that makes it even more disturbing to think about the cruelties his family has inflicted upon the people of North Korea.
I wonder what motivated the exclusive Swiss international school to take him on as a student. Were they simply after the money, or did they justify it to themselves by saying that by socialising him with students and ideas from around the world they might send a more open and humane future leader back to NK. |
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NightSky
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
You obviously didn't see the smiley contemptious f%$#er KJI's son.
You guys make out like he's some laughable buffoon. While he hangs out in Macau's casinos wasting his people's money ... there are children in labor camps. I translated part of a book, written by (well transcribed for him) a man who managed to escape from a prison village. His grandfather was put in this camp, which is behind electric fences and under armed guard, because he opposed the state in some way. Well, the grandfather's kids were put in there, too. The boy who wrote the story was a toddler. He escaped when he was 29. His mother was executed (shot) in front of him about three years ago.
Look, this is not a distant past. These are huge prison camps in the country parts of NK. Tens of kids washed away while building a dam collapses. Kids in slave labor and dying in labor.
F&^%. Look, this KJI's son is not laughable. He's contemptible. If I saw him ....
When I read about the guards, one who beat a nine year old girl to death for having five corn seeds in her pocket ... Man. KJI should be dead. That his lineage of mentally challenged offspring will continue his reign of terror insults humanity. |
i know what you mean, but what do you expect him to do? he seems kind of limp-wristed. probably he is terrified of his dad and sees no better option than to spend his time out of his home country. genetically he doesn't have a lot to work with, is he really supposed to do a Rambo and start overthrowing the regime from the inside in? we don't know the extent of his education or what he has to work with, but it doesn't look like much.
maybe he doesn't even know the extent to which his own people are suffering. maybe he does, and doesn't care...but my point is there is probably not a lot he could do about it, maybe no more than the average outsider.
if any of us grew up a dictator's child who from probably early on was not favoured to be the next leader in line I think many of us might behave very similarly--try to keep a low profile and stay far away.
jmo though. |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
You obviously didn't see the smiley contemptious f%$#er KJI's son.
You guys make out like he's some laughable buffoon. While he hangs out in Macau's casinos wasting his people's money ... there are children in labor camps. I translated part of a book, written by (well transcribed for him) a man who managed to escape from a prison village. His grandfather was put in this camp, which is behind electric fences and under armed guard, because he opposed the state in some way. Well, the grandfather's kids were put in there, too. The boy who wrote the story was a toddler. He escaped when he was 29. His mother was executed (shot) in front of him about three years ago.
Look, this is not a distant past. These are huge prison camps in the country parts of NK. Tens of kids washed away while building a dam collapses. Kids in slave labor and dying in labor.
F&^%. Look, this KJI's son is not laughable. He's contemptible. If I saw him ....
When I read about the guards, one who beat a nine year old girl to death for having five corn seeds in her pocket ... Man. KJI should be dead. That his lineage of mentally challenged offspring will continue his reign of terror insults humanity. |
I think we're all horrified at the hell that the North Koreans are going through, but what can we do? Sometimes humor is the only way to deal with horror.
This is why I do not support the Sunshine Policy--a single grain of rice given to that country is an accessory to genocide and torture.
I was horrified to learn that every time a plane flies through NK airspace, they get a small fee. I will try to make sure none of my flights go through their airspace. |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise
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| kiwiduncan wrote: |
| I wonder what motivated the exclusive Swiss international school to take him on as a student. Were they simply after the money, or did they justify it to themselves by saying that by socialising him with students and ideas from around the world they might send a more open and humane future leader back to NK. |
Probably both. This is why I HATE Switzerland and Sweden. Every country on Earth should have got together long ago and strangled the NK powers into submission. China's and Russia's games just show how disgusting those countries are, which is why I'm proud not to contribute to either nation's economy, but I'll happily work in South Korea or Japan. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| kiwiduncan wrote: |
| I wonder what motivated the exclusive Swiss international school to take him on as a student. Were they simply after the money, or did they justify it to themselves by saying that by socialising him with students and ideas from around the world they might send a more open and humane future leader back to NK. |
The younger son, Kim Jong-un, was educated in Switzerland, disguised as the ambassador's chauffeur's son. Of course this older one could have went to school there too?
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Kim Jong Un attended the International School of Berne, which is about 15 minutes from the Swiss capital and a few hundred yards from the North Korean Embassy. While Kim was at the English-language school, which has about 280 students from 40 countries, he befriended the children of American diplomats and learned French and German, according to the Swiss weekly L'Hebdo.
Kim attended the school under the false name of Pak Chol, the weekly said, and school officials and his classmates "thought they were dealing with the son of the driver of the embassy." Friends and staff at the school remembered a shy boy who enjoyed skiing, loved the National Basketball Association and spoke highly of action-movie actor Jean-Claude Van Damme. He reportedly left the school at age 15 to return to North Korea, and little about his life there is known to the outside world.
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Cheonmunka wrote: |
You obviously didn't see the smiley contemptious f%$#er KJI's son.
You guys make out like he's some laughable buffoon. While he hangs out in Macau's casinos wasting his people's money ... there are children in labor camps. I translated part of a book, written by (well transcribed for him) a man who managed to escape from a prison village. His grandfather was put in this camp, which is behind electric fences and under armed guard, because he opposed the state in some way. Well, the grandfather's kids were put in there, too. The boy who wrote the story was a toddler. He escaped when he was 29. His mother was executed (shot) in front of him about three years ago.
Look, this is not a distant past. These are huge prison camps in the country parts of NK. Tens of kids washed away while building a dam collapses. Kids in slave labor and dying in labor.
F&^%. Look, this KJI's son is not laughable. He's contemptible. If I saw him ....
When I read about the guards, one who beat a nine year old girl to death for having five corn seeds in her pocket ... Man. KJI should be dead. That his lineage of mentally challenged offspring will continue his reign of terror insults humanity. |
I've read that book. My co-worker's currently reading my copy. Thanks for your work. Yeah, I love the idea of kidnapping him from Macau and using him as a bargaining chip. |
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