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jcan
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 Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: alcoholism test for E-2?! |
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I heard from a friend of mine that there is a new test going into effect...the alcoholism test. You pee into a cup.
Please tell me this is not true.  |
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OculisOrbis
Joined: 17 Jul 2006
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They basically already test for it. They measure your liver enzymes on the standard health checks required to get a visa and if the levels too high then it indicates problems with liver function. The two primary causes of that are alcoholism and hepatitis.
If the levels are too high, and you admit to some imbibing of the drink, they might ask you to come back in week or two for a second test. Lay off the booze for that time and your levels will drop and that will rule out hepatitis and you'll be approved. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Why would it matter, unless you were drinking before the test? I took one for a job back in NZ that required you blow the bag. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| If this is the same standarsed test for Korean government workers I can't see the regulations pertaining to liver damage being to tight. |
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diver
Joined: 16 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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You have to prove you're an alcoholic to work here now?
This is getting ridiculous.
I'm going to have to start drinking again... |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| diver wrote: |
| You have to prove you're an alcoholic to work here now? |
No... but it helps!
Last Saturday morning my vice principal, some of his family and I went on an excursion. At 8:00 am he asked me if I wanted a beer (I wasn't eating their K breakfast). I declined saying it was "too early". We all started drinking at 10:00 am (after we'd gone for a hike).  |
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michaelambling
Joined: 31 Dec 2008
Location: Paradise
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| cruisemonkey wrote: |
| diver wrote: |
| You have to prove you're an alcoholic to work here now? |
No... but it helps! |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| OculisOrbis wrote: |
They basically already test for it. They measure your liver enzymes on the standard health checks required to get a visa and if the levels too high then it indicates problems with liver function. The two primary causes of that are alcoholism and hepatitis.
If the levels are too high, and you admit to some imbibing of the drink, they might ask you to come back in week or two for a second test. Lay off the booze for that time and your levels will drop and that will rule out hepatitis and you'll be approved. |
Another leading cause is a fatty liver. Its becoming more common because of people's diets. This isn't limited just to fat people as thin people can get a fatty liver as well.
If you aren't an alcoholic and you're liver enzymes are up and you test negative for hepatitis you should have an ultrasound to check your liver. |
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zang
Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| They test to see if you have more than 2 drinks a day. If they find that you do, they deport you, no questions asked. Very unfortunate. |
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Cerriowen
Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| zang wrote: |
| They test to see if you have more than 2 drinks a day. If they find that you dont,they deport you, no questions asked. Very unfortunate. |
There... I fixed that for you. |
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polonius
Joined: 05 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| I know of someone who had a serious liver problem because of drinking and genetics. The hospital wouldn't issue him the paperwork for the E2 visa. So, I just told him to go to another hospital and get another check. He did, they gave him the paperwork and he got his visa renewed. Then he left Korea 2 weeks later to kick the drinking. He didn't think he could do it here. |
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egrog1717
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: |
| OculisOrbis wrote: |
They basically already test for it. They measure your liver enzymes on the standard health checks required to get a visa and if the levels too high then it indicates problems with liver function. The two primary causes of that are alcoholism and hepatitis.
If the levels are too high, and you admit to some imbibing of the drink, they might ask you to come back in week or two for a second test. Lay off the booze for that time and your levels will drop and that will rule out hepatitis and you'll be approved. |
Another leading cause is a fatty liver. Its becoming more common because of people's diets. This isn't limited just to fat people as thin people can get a fatty liver as well.
If you aren't an alcoholic and you're liver enzymes are up and you test negative for hepatitis you should have an ultrasound to check your liver. |
Yup, happened to me when I got here... Few bright spots from my days of university drinking and sitting around writing papers lol... |
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Illysook
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
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I had a lot of biology in school, and it's a little rusty, so I could be wrong, but I think that it takes the average alcoholic a lifetime to kill his or her liver and even then, the heart or the lungs are likely to give out first.
So it seems unlikely that a liver function test could tell you anything about the drinking habits of the average twenty-something ESL teacher.
There are certain psychological assessments that are helpful as one decides whether or not to seek treatment, but the person has to be ready to cooperate with such assessments...not a likely scenario with a job at stake.
Let the drinking games resume. |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| Illysook wrote: |
I had a lot of biology in school, and it's a little rusty, so I could be wrong, but I think that it takes the average alcoholic a lifetime to kill his or her liver and even then, the heart or the lungs are likely to give out first.
So it seems unlikely that a liver function test could tell you anything about the drinking habits of the average twenty-something ESL teacher.
Let the drinking games resume. |
A friend of mine who had just a couple of years of heavy drinking in early University days did do enough liver damage in that time to know that he could never drink heavily again. You can do significant damage in a relatively short period of time. It might not kill you but it can make you sick. |
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zang
Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| Cerriowen wrote: |
| zang wrote: |
| They test to see if you have more than 2 drinks a day. If they find that you dont,they deport you, no questions asked. Very unfortunate. |
There... I fixed that for you. |
Whoops, thanks. |
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