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Korean students: Lockpick extrodinaires

 
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ekul



Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Korean students: Lockpick extrodinaires Reply with quote

Recently in my classroom candy and chocopies have been going missing from the bottom draw of my desk. At first I didn't realise the bag of lollipops was going down, then when the bag was empty the penny dropped. I spend my free periods and lunch in the office, so the thieves could of struck any time they really wanted outside of my lessons.

The door has a classic combination lock, but because of students having to clean the room and looking over my shoulder when I open the door I don't think it was a huge secret. Not having any proof of who it could be (personally I think it's some of the cleaning kids) we changed the lock.

The previous lock had 10*10*10*10 (10,000) combinations. However this lock is slightly different, it has 8 buttons that can each be pressed once for the 4 digit code, basically the numbers cannot repeat. This lock has 8*7*6*5 (1680) combinations.

Now the truly amazing thing about this story is that last night I changed the lock, and I arrive at my 9am class to find them all sitting at their desks... They had already cracked the combination! I thought this was pure luck, but then in the 3rd period I turn up again to find they have also cracked the lock and figured it out. Obviously the first class could have been lucky, but the second class aswell? I suppose they could have told them, but for some reason I doubt it.

Just give me a lock and a key! Screw this combination locks.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like it's time for a stake-out with camera ready.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Looks like it's time for a stake-out with camera ready.


Seconded! You should definitely set up a camera and catch the bastards stealing from you. The question is will the school admin consider it serious and punish the students or give them a slap on the wrist because you're a foreigner?
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ekul



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luckily the K teachers are pretty mad about it as well. My head of English told me a little story about having to fix cracks in windows before they get worse, which I found quite cute. Other than catching them red handed it's not an easy thing to do.

I'm more annoyed about them figuring out the combination already, i was hoping something else would go missing and then i would know for a fact it was the cleaning students, but now it could be anyone :/
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nathanrutledge



Joined: 01 May 2008
Location: Marakesh

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just today we got a new combination lock for our office. Apparently the kids figured it out, which they revealed by telling my co teacher "Oh, I'll go get that for you, we know the combination to the office!"

In the larger office in my school, they posted the combination on the inside of the door in plain view of everyone, so it's no secret, but I showed up today and we had a new lock on our door. Of course, its one of those 4 dial locks, and they have so much play in them I figured out the combination and opened it in about 10 seconds, so it doesn't surprise me at all that these kids figure them out.

Myself, I used to work at a hardware store and worked on re-keying locks and opening padlocks that people had forgot the combination to or lost the key for. Believe me, even if they were solidly made locks, anyone with a little training and about 10 minutes could get one open.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chocolax!

or rat poison if it's really getting to you
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Rusty Shackleford



Joined: 08 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The attitude towards pass words here is weird. You have to have a password on your PC which is then written in a book that is available to every one to see, at any time. I also have to lock my desk every day but I usually leave the keys on the desk in plain site. Which isn't a problem.

But the PCs in the classrooms are often available because no one knows the password. Rolling Eyes
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cmr



Joined: 22 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know if they have that in Korea, but a box of chocolates for your little thieves might be a nice thing... of course, I'm talking about Ex-Lax chocolates! Wink
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cmr wrote:
I don't know if they have that in Korea, but a box of chocolates for your little thieves might be a nice thing... of course, I'm talking about Ex-Lax chocolates! Wink


Actually, this would normally be a good idea except that a student could take too many and really get hurt. If the OP does this, I'd suggest just leaving a few in the drawer at a time.
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always know that


I have always kept candy, chocolates in a locked cabinet, or desk for students who save up so many coupons (for homework, good work etc)

my elementary school students (grade 3 or grade 4) have shown me many times - that they can pick the lock in less than a minute

these days I only use padlocks and keys... and still the students try to destroy or break the door on the cabinet

I also had to fasten the cabinet to the wall - because the students were shaking it so much to try to break it - the Korean co-teacher thought the cabinet was going to fall on top of them and kill them...

Korean students are thieves at early ages..
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusty Shackleford wrote:
The attitude towards pass words here is weird. You have to have a password on your PC which is then written in a book that is available to every one to see, at any time. I also have to lock my desk every day but I usually leave the keys on the desk in plain site. Which isn't a problem.

But the PCs in the classrooms are often available because no one knows the password. Rolling Eyes


At the start of this year I forgot a USB in a classroom computer. I went to the classroom shortly after dismissal to find it locked up. So I then went to the HR teacher to ask her to open it. She couldn't remember the combination (ten push-button lock) to the lock on her own classroom and had to phone a student.
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