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[Mr. Pink]

p2p sucks for big files. anything over 50mb, it is too slow cause most people dont want to host that stuff and so after they grab it they move it or delete it.

newsgroups is the fastest for getting new tvshows. That jeeves guy doesn't know wtf he is talking about. A good newsgroup server can go 500KB/s to 1MB/s. I remember when thrunet first started, they had a wicked newsgroup server, could get warez etc at 750KB/s.

Anyways, go with what you want...i'd suggest giving newsgroups a try. Even a private USA server can give 250KB/s which kicks the crap out of bittorent or e-mule.

[wylde]

i just gave bearshare and direct dowload the drill...


bearshare says it searches the entire gnutella community. it must be dying cuz there isn't much there..
bearshare had 2 cheech and chong files, that total 10mg.
winmx has, right now, 8 full movies and 45 users sharing cheech and chong.

we can read and listen to what others say but the proof is always in the pudding...

kaaza - lots of files / crap controls
bearshare - not a great range / bad controls, some things are good but that is why it didnt get my 'crap' rating
edonkey - reasonable amount of files / crap controls
direct connect - works like a community of chat rooms, it craps on bearshare & edonkey / hard to find what you're looking for but some users seem to have lots of stuff.
bittorrent - although it claims to have current stuff it is a mix of different sites to find files that you crave and still hard to get a transfer. it does mention that the current files are easier to get but i didn't find that. i must have registered on 15 different sites and still couldn't get a copy of the latest episodes of friends to d/l. i did get other stuff to d/l - a benny hill show what about the current files again?
winmx - lots of files / excellent controls

there are heaps of ways to get files online, as mr. pink suggests, newsgroups might be a good way.

[wylde]

i just did the limewire drill.

very good controls, not as good as winmx but better than the rest.

however, i can still only find 3 cheech and chong movies.
given that cheech and chong may not be the be all and end all of searches, it is however a good subject to use as a guide. i have set the displayed results to 5000 and this is what i get on other files.

when i search for 'friends' on limewire i get 22 results
on winmx i get 1223 results

johnny cash on limewire gives 309 results
winmx gives 1655 results

porn on limewire gives 218 results
winmx gives 6300 results

*beep* on limewire gives 285, winmx 2300

eminem on limewire gives 285, winmx 12200 (there must be over 250,000 users sharing eminem too)

when i get time i might do this with the other progs and post the results just to see.

[sistersarah]

toomuchtime - i love you avatar. thanks for posting the question too....just downloaded kazaa lite, an old version from bakshi and it's awesome.

[wylde]

[jaebea]

I'm a bit of a p2p nut so I've got to weigh into this one! :)

If you can find sources for reliable torrents, there is no way in the world you can beat it for new and big releases. The key is finding a good place to obtain .torrent files.. :)

Newsgroups require two key factors for it to be a reliable point of distribution:
a) Nature of Newsgroups (uploading onto a server)
b) Good retention

Point a) means that someone has to have the movie/show/game initially. This can be obtained many ways, and is beyond the scope of our thread. This person must then upload the data to a news server. However, the nature of newsgroups (decentralised propagating network) means that its reliability is questionable. This means that a single 650 meg CD image is never uploaded, but instead, it is split up into multiple segments. These segments have their own segments, which are encoded as they are posted on the groups. Then, as they are downloaded by the user, they are decoded and recompiled into usable binaries.

Point b) means that existing data on the server can be viewed as a pipe. As new data enters the server, older data is bumped off the other end. Good retention means that the server has a long pipe. Poor retention means that the server has a short pipe. This affects the "window" of opportunity you can download the files, whilst ensuring all the files are on the server in the first place.

However, if you can satisfy these two conditions, then it is an excellent point for downloading files, as the news server is either on a very very fast link, or is directly attached to the LAN at your ISP.

WinMX has been my choice for MP3 since AudioSatellite went bust, and I often use Soulseek for the more obscure tracks.

I'll use Kazaa for small applications and so forth that have been out for a while.. things such as FTP clients, picture viewers, DVD players, etc. They can be found without too much trouble, bundled with a serial or crack.

Anything new, or big, or both, is via Torrent.. :)

jae.

[wylde]

exclude bittorrent and newsgroups jea

which is best? simple p2p network?



edit: & why?

[jaebea]

Well there's no doubt about it, I use WinMX the most. I rarely have problems finding what I need, especially in the way of MP3, so I'm with you there.. :)

Kazaa has a LOT of users and a LOT of material so it's not without its own merits.

jae.

[wylde]

[jaebea]

Yeah, the interface is a vast improvement, and the fact you can conduct multiple searches at once is a bonus.

With WinMX, it's easy to sort MP3's by bitrate, and for a quality sticker like myself, this has immense appeal.

I think I just prefer it over other networks for day to day use... :)

jae.

[wylde]

hows about d/ls? i have 100 queued and between 2 and 10 running at 1 time... as for uploads, they are are entirely under my control.... that is my point completely...

[Cthulhu]

Looks like I have to go back to WinMX for music. I thought it went downhill awhile ago the way Audiogalaxy did. Glad it didn't.

[Bulsajo]

[wylde]

overnet is my next comparison..

i am not right or wrong.. this just what is obvious

[wylde]

i just ask ya to try
i have proven it is best


if ya don't agree, why?