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iPhone (almost) Confirmed for KOREA!
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superacidjax



Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCJames wrote:
Also, the iPhone doesn't have a radio and the sound quality is just horrible.

No DMB.

That's not to mention that the iPhone doesn't even have any expansion card slots for adding storage.

The iPhone is a mixed bag.


A RADIO??? Are you serious? DMB and radio. Wow. Sounds like a Sony Walkman/Watchman. With the entire "real" (non portaled) internet available you can listen or watch whatever the heck you want. How many people in Korea actually listen to the radio on their phone? And, if they wanted to, they could simply go to the radio's webpage and listen to the stream. Of course, they don't do that currently because they'd have a $1000 phone bill if they did.

Worrying about DMB and radio is about like being angry that your computer doesn't have 3.5 inch disk drive. I'm sure Samsung has a really revolutionary phone that probably has a calculator and cassette player mixed with an AM radio and maybe even telegraph capabilities. It's just as silly as buying an HD TV and complaining that it doesn't come with rabbit ears. Most Korean phones now are like imitation Swiss Army knives.. They're cool for an 8 year old, but as soon as you try to use the scissors, the darned blades bend. The workmanship is inferior with the large majority of phones here too. They tend to crack or break and they feel cheap. Compare an average Cyon to an average Nokia.. big difference.

It's all about the internet. Korean smartphones are crap when it comes to the internet, thanks to the telcoms. The Korean smartphone market is less than 10% of all phones sold because the internet capabilities are so inferior and the pricing is ridiculous.

After all, how many Korean smartphones allow you to rent a real movie for $3.99 or less and watch it within minutes? Or buy any song you want for 99 cents? Downloading a ringtone for a Korean phone costs nearly as much as downloading an entire movie on the iPhone or Touch.

Do any Korean phones have Wifi? Skype? Nope. Not a single one. I think WiFi is far more interesting than a stupid radio. Sure, some phones have WiBro.. but that's still a per kilobyte/MB charge through the telecom. WiFi would allow you to use your phone on any wireless network without having to pay the telecoms' insane data rates.

The iPhone sound quality isn't bad at all.. you plug headphones into it.. it is after all, also an iPod.

As far as expansion slots.. they are redundant.. The iPhone fully synchronizes with your computer, unlike the Korean "almost-smart" phones. Unless you have a need to carry around more than 32 GBs of content, there isn't a need for expansion cards. If you "fill" up the phone with photos or downloads, you simply sync the phone and all your stuff is now on your computer. The "other" smartphones need expansion cards because they don't fully sync with your computer. So expansion cards are the only means to keep data without deleting it to save room. The iPhone has 32 GBs of storage as it is.

It isn't even really about the iPhone per se.. it's about the whole mobile internet and telecom model in Korea. It's outdated, clunky and protectionist. The consumer is the loser. I don't care so much about the iPhone as I care about the telecoms modernizing.

Korea is the most connected country in the world, yet there is less than 10% smartphone penetration? That just seems odd. I want ALL smartphones to start happening in Korea.. iPhone, Blackberry, etc. To each his own when it comes to what brand of phone, but the overall issue is about smartphones and data plans in general. I don't even think Korea has unlimited talk plans yet. You still have to pay a different rate to call cell phones and landlines here too. Unlimited talk and data plans are what Korea really needs.. iPhone/Blackberry/whatever -- that isn't the important issue, it's the access.
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swigs



Joined: 20 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Word superacidjax. I find it completely absurd the situation in Korea. I thought Korea was supposed to be a 'tech country', I now understand that that's not completely true. Nice links, thanks for posting. China is horrible on ripping IP for real.
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Xuanzang



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Sadang

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCJames wrote:
Also, the iPhone doesn't have a radio and the sound quality is just horrible.

No DMB.

That's not to mention that the iPhone doesn't even have any expansion card slots for adding storage.

The iPhone is a mixed bag.



Pandora radio and 32GB storage. Enough said...
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think some of you guys are missing the point of removable storage. It is a cheap way to increase your device's memory. the 32gig iphone is pretty costly. and the original iphones didn't have much memory at all and they could have really used some extra memory options.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll chime in why the iPhone will be popular in Korea:

You don't need to carry around 3 separate devices: it has an mp3 player, phone and video device all in one. Koreans typically take the bus/subway for an hour each way to work (or more) and use some type of entertainment to help them pass the time. This device fits the bill.

I find it a kick in the nuts that Korean telecom companies want to limit the functions of such a device. If they really want to make money, just charge more for the device instead of subsidizing it. So while it would cost me $100 in Canada or the US, charge 500,000 won. That extra 400,000 won a sale is going to make up any money they would have made on not having wifi in there. As if people will use the Internet when the phone companies charge so much for it.

People WILL pay 500,000 for it if they know that price will stay the same. I don't expect it will cost what it does in the US or Canada that is forsure.
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
DCJames wrote:
Also, the iPhone doesn't have a radio and the sound quality is just horrible.

No DMB.

That's not to mention that the iPhone doesn't even have any expansion card slots for adding storage.

The iPhone is a mixed bag.



Pandora radio and 32GB storage. Enough said...


Can you listen to pandora on the bus or any other place that doesn't have wifi (while you're walking to your next destination)??? Rolling Eyes

A 32GB iPod Touch is well over 500,000 won. Guess how much an iPhone with 32 GB will cost. Rolling Eyes Most people don't want to pay that much for 32GB internal memory when they can pay much less with storage card slot memory.
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swigs



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point is, is that you don't even need 32 gigs because you can easily sync all of your files to your computer. When have you ever listened/watched to even 8 gigs worth of music on one battery run. In America a 32 gig subsidized iphone costs around $299, which is rather cheap compared to other subsidized phones with comparable features (GPS, Video/Photo, Compass, App store, etc). You can get an 8 gig iphone in America for 99.

Your hard drive on your computer is your expandable storage, making micro sd cards obsolete.

And you don't need wifi most of the time with the iphone, it's called 3g. Having the wifi is just an added bonus for added reliability.

Mass media broadcast is a mark of the 20th century, media on demand is the 21st century. Come on man, you sound like you want to bring back the tape cassette player. (Nothing inherently wrong with that though...to each their own) Cool
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dc'79



Joined: 01 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 2 won...
Iphone. Nice but overhyped.

There are plenty of other phones out there with similar to better capabilities. (hardware) The only shining point about the iphone is the OS, which I admit is rock solid. The apps...I'm not overly impressed with...I'd probably only use a handful of them at the most. Syncing with computer....I don't find it better or worse than any other phone I have owned in the last couple of years. And for me, not having a physical qwerty keyboard is a no no. Touchscreen gets old fast. Design....a very handsome product. But again plenty of well designed phones on the market.

Now will it be successful in Korea? Possibly. But I'm betting that it won't gather much attention in Korea. Other than the foreign crowd. Hardware wise it's lacking compared to other high end phones in Korea. Software, although superior will probably not have the same level of support that the American or EU markets get. Does itunes even have a Korean version out? And if they do, are they as well supported by Korean devs?
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SHANE02



Joined: 04 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DCJames wrote:
Xuanzang wrote:
DCJames wrote:
Also, the iPhone doesn't have a radio and the sound quality is just horrible.

No DMB.

That's not to mention that the iPhone doesn't even have any expansion card slots for adding storage.

The iPhone is a mixed bag.



Pandora radio and 32GB storage. Enough said...


Can you listen to pandora on the bus or any other place that doesn't have wifi (while you're walking to your next destination)??? Rolling Eyes

A 32GB iPod Touch is well over 500,000 won. Guess how much an iPhone with 32 GB will cost. Rolling Eyes Most people don't want to pay that much for 32GB internal memory when they can pay much less with storage card slot memory.


Koreans pay well over 500.000 won for phones every day with crap features and pathetic memory capacity. I thought you would know that.
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kimuchiii



Joined: 02 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Xuanzang wrote:
DCJames wrote:
Also, the iPhone doesn't have a radio and the sound quality is just horrible.

No DMB.

That's not to mention that the iPhone doesn't even have any expansion card slots for adding storage.

The iPhone is a mixed bag.



Pandora radio and 32GB storage. Enough said...

eh? I thought Pandora didn't work outside of the US?
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DCJames



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHANE02 wrote:
DCJames wrote:
Xuanzang wrote:
DCJames wrote:
Also, the iPhone doesn't have a radio and the sound quality is just horrible.

No DMB.

That's not to mention that the iPhone doesn't even have any expansion card slots for adding storage.

The iPhone is a mixed bag.



Pandora radio and 32GB storage. Enough said...


Can you listen to pandora on the bus or any other place that doesn't have wifi (while you're walking to your next destination)??? Rolling Eyes

A 32GB iPod Touch is well over 500,000 won. Guess how much an iPhone with 32 GB will cost. Rolling Eyes Most people don't want to pay that much for 32GB internal memory when they can pay much less with storage card slot memory.


Koreans pay well over 500.000 won for phones every day with crap features and pathetic memory capacity. I thought you would know that.


Indeed they do and indeed I do.

Korean-made phones and the iPhone both have their strengths and weaknesses.

I never said I loved Korean phones and I never said I hated the iPhone.
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