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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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 Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:57 am Post subject: Interview with Poker guys, must listen! Massive misconduct |
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http://www.koreanmediawatch.com/documents/gamble.mp3
With Mike from Metropolitician. Absolutely insane. Just inexcusable.
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| Ahaha...Mike, who's doing the interview, blurted out a point I'd completely forgotten! Foreigners can gamble in Korea ANYWAY! We're the only ones who can use casinos. |
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Ruraljuror
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:05 am Post subject: |
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Yo!
Why is this "interview" almost 5 gigs? And why is it not mentioned on the Marmot's Hole page?
I call shenanigans! Keep your japanese tentacle porn to yourself! |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ruraljuror wrote: |
Yo!
Why is this "interview" almost 5 gigs? And why is it not mentioned on the Marmot's Hole page?
I call shenanigans! Keep your japanese tentacle porn to yourself! |
Lawls. Real interview posted. (And it was bukkake bondage for your info). |
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Gardimus
Joined: 23 Feb 2006
Location: Formerly Ontario, Canada
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:11 am Post subject: |
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I will never recommend to a friend that they come to Korea ever again. Korean bars have had gambling in full site, and have taken rakes from players they the police don't seem to mind. This was a friendly game and they are being made to look like some kind of foreign organized crime syndicate.
Koreans should be ashamed of their police. I hope everyone listens to this interview. |
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Ruraljuror
Joined: 08 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| Koreans should be ashamed of their police. I hope everyone listens to this interview. |
Speaking as someone with a Korean wife, and therefore a Korean family, I can assure you that Koreans are very, very, VERY ashamed of their police. And with good reason...the SWAT team raid on the poker game doesn't even make to Top 10 list of worst offenses of police misconduct commited yesterday. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| If they'd been playing 고스톱, this never would have happened. |
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gangwonbound
Joined: 27 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| Koreans should be ashamed of their police. I hope everyone listens to this interview. |
Speaking as someone with a Korean wife, and therefore a Korean family, I can assure you that Koreans are very, very, VERY ashamed of their police. And with good reason...the SWAT team raid on the poker game doesn't even make to Top 10 list of worst offenses of police misconduct commited yesterday. |
Agree...I think some Korean ploice officer is looking to get promoted or something. |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| gangwonbound wrote: |
| Ruraljuror wrote: |
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| Koreans should be ashamed of their police. I hope everyone listens to this interview. |
Speaking as someone with a Korean wife, and therefore a Korean family, I can assure you that Koreans are very, very, VERY ashamed of their police. And with good reason...the SWAT team raid on the poker game doesn't even make to Top 10 list of worst offenses of police misconduct commited yesterday. |
Agree...I think some Korean ploice officer is looking to get promoted or something. |
It's sad, really. Some backwater officer gets 5 seconds of fame, meanwhile he unwittingly costs his own country millions of dollars when the word gets out that Koreans persecute foreigners (thus sucking foreign investment out of the country). |
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gangwonbound
Joined: 27 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
| gangwonbound wrote: |
| Ruraljuror wrote: |
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| Koreans should be ashamed of their police. I hope everyone listens to this interview. |
Speaking as someone with a Korean wife, and therefore a Korean family, I can assure you that Koreans are very, very, VERY ashamed of their police. And with good reason...the SWAT team raid on the poker game doesn't even make to Top 10 list of worst offenses of police misconduct commited yesterday. |
Agree...I think some Korean ploice officer is looking to get promoted or something. |
It's sad, really. Some backwater officer gets 5 seconds of fame, meanwhile he unwittingly costs his own country millions of dollars when the word gets out that Koreans persecute foreigners (thus sucking foreign investment out of the country). |
Korea sparkling...ie the sparkle only lasts for a short time and then every forgets about it. |
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MrMr
Joined: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Guys, Sorry you got busted...but you were doing something illegal that you knew was illegal. the cops don't have to know the difference between a cash game, a tourney, chip value, the luck, skill factor yadayadayada. They just have to show you were gambling. Do they have to know the intricacies to recognize a wager? They were impolite and pushy; they took some publicity shots(is this a suprise?)
The law here is not so different than in Canada or America.Casino games are legal, private games aren't. Of course 99% of all illigal games don't get busted but when it'd time for the vice squad to get their yearly quota of press, games do get busted. It's been happening for years.
I really am sorry you guys got caught and I wish private poker wasn't illegal but I;m not convinced that you were hard done-by or treated particularly harshly (except for the drug test if there was no evidence of drugs).
The guys being interviewd really come off as doing some heavy if not very logical rationalizing. And the guy who says he is a professional player, making a living at the casino may be opening himself up for more scrutiny. While casino gambling is legal perhaps the "professional" part might be outside the purview of his visa.
I'm not defending the law as good or moralizing about the activity; I'm just saying that a regular poker player here knows that private games are illegal and I believe to feign not knowing this is a little disingenuous and to offer the police's lack of intimate knowledge of your game of choice is not really a good defence.
My real purpose in posting this is not to attack those guys but to suggest that they need to come up with a better strategy to defend themselves. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:24 am Post subject: |
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All I know is....... that girl...... she speaks with a rising intonation...... at the end of each sentence.......
Nails on a chalkboard. |
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gangwonbound
Joined: 27 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| MrMr wrote: |
Guys, Sorry you got busted...but you were doing something illegal that you knew was illegal. the cops don't have to know the difference between a cash game, a tourney, chip value, the luck, skill factor yadayadayada. They just have to show you were gambling. Do they have to know the intricacies to recognize a wager? They were impolite and pushy; they took some publicity shots(is this a suprise?)
The law here is not so different than in Canada or America.Casino games are legal, private games aren't. Of course 99% of all illigal games don't get busted but when it'd time for the vice squad to get their yearly quota of press, games do get busted. It's been happening for years.
I really am sorry you guys got caught and I wish private poker wasn't illegal but I;m not convinced that you were hard done-by or treated particularly harshly (except for the drug test if there was no evidence of drugs).
The guys being interviewd really come off as doing some heavy if not very logical rationalizing. And the guy who says he is a professional player, making a living at the casino may be opening himself up for more scrutiny. While casino gambling is legal perhaps the "professional" part might be outside the purview of his visa.
I'm not defending the law as good or moralizing about the activity; I'm just saying that a regular poker player here knows that private games are illegal and I believe to feign not knowing this is a little disingenuous and to offer the police's lack of intimate knowledge of your game of choice is not really a good defence.
My real purpose in posting this is not to attack those guys but to suggest that they need to come up with a better strategy to defend themselves. |
You got a good point too. |
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Rusty Shackleford
Joined: 08 May 2008
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:43 am Post subject: |
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All I know is....... that girl...... she speaks with a rising intonation...... at the end of each sentence.......
Nails on a chalkboard. |
+1
I was just going to log on to make this exact same point.
Truly sucky situatiion. I hope it turns out OK for these people. I was in a game a month or so ago, in a busy bar. I didn't even realize it was illegal. |
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E_athlete
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling
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| Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: |
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lesson is: never open the door to cops. Ask for warrant & ID, if they dont have it, they cant come in.
also these white kids dont know their legal rights. You should never tell the cops anything, they just want to use whatever you say to incriminate you. These guys were volunteering information to cops thinking they are helping themselves. |
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