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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Grammar Question Reply with quote

In a word, first born children should be conservative and a bully. _________, second-born children have to cope in a world that contains this obsequious martinet.

The answer for the blank is "Contrastively", however, another choice is "otherwise".

My first assumption would be that otherwise is a conjuctive adverb and can not be used like that.

Are there any cases where it would be ok to use Otherwise instead of Contrastively?
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a joke?
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Picasso wrote:
Is this a joke?


This would be a typical English exam question at a high school. I didn't make the question, and I didn't come up with the answers.

Apparently, a bunch of students answered "otherwise" and are complaining to the head English department, Vice Principal, and the Principal. So, I get called into school on my day off to try and get the "final answer". Of course, I can't simply say, "this is the right answer because I said so."

There has to be a concrete reason as to why the given answer is correct, and a concrete reason as to why "otherwise" is incorrect.

Korean students just can't accept a wrong answer. They need a hundred and one reasons WHY it isn't the right answer.

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Anyways, I think I found the answer to my question. Otherwise is a conjunctive adverb, and used to connect 2 clauses. If the 2 clauses are in separate sentences, than Otherwise would follow a verb.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't "see" the reason by applying grammar rules as you stated. However, I do see a distinct difference.

When we use "otherwise", we are talking about the same topic ("Make your bed. Otherwise, you will be in trouble"). It's either doing something or not doing the same act.

Contrastively, when we use "constratively" we can talk about two different topics as stated in the test question.

I also see how it could be bit of a trick question, because we do have "On the other hand". It's possible, the test makers wanted to trip up students who think "otherwise" and "on the other hand" are the same.


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warren pease



Joined: 12 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, honestly, had no idea that contrastively was a word, and I am in no way ashamed of this fact. Furthermore, I hereby pledge to never use said word and to mock any persons using said word in my presence.
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lifeinkorea



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Contrastively, I think it is an awesome word Laughing
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sugarkane59



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:25 am    Post subject: Wow Reply with quote

Contrastively is hardly ever used in England, but out of the two options, it sounds the most viable. I think in this context, and being mindful of what the sentence is trying to convey, I think that otherwise does not fit at all.
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pkang0202



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info.
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I'm no Picasso



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
I'm no Picasso wrote:
Is this a joke?


This would be a typical English exam question at a high school. I didn't make the question, and I didn't come up with the answers.

Apparently, a bunch of students answered "otherwise" and are complaining to the head English department, Vice Principal, and the Principal. So, I get called into school on my day off to try and get the "final answer". Of course, I can't simply say, "this is the right answer because I said so."

There has to be a concrete reason as to why the given answer is correct, and a concrete reason as to why "otherwise" is incorrect.

Korean students just can't accept a wrong answer. They need a hundred and one reasons WHY it isn't the right answer.

Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Anyways, I think I found the answer to my question. Otherwise is a conjunctive adverb, and used to connect 2 clauses. If the 2 clauses are in separate sentences, than Otherwise would follow a verb.



That's a typical high school English exam question?

Boy, are my middle school third graders in for a rude awakening. Jesus....
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martypants



Joined: 15 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the word you want is "contrastingly."

"Otherwise" is more used an "or else" clause.

My $0.02
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lifeinkorea



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at all the contrastiveness in our answers Smile
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friendoken



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

warren pease wrote:
I, honestly, had no idea that contrastively was a word, and I am in no way ashamed of this fact. Furthermore, I hereby pledge to never use said word and to mock any persons using said word in my presence.


Ditto. From Webster's Online Dictionary

Usage Frequency: Contrastive
"Contrastive" is generally used as an adjective (general or positive) -- approximately 95.00% of the time. "Contrastive" is used about 40 times out of a sample of 100 million words spoken or written in English. Its rank is based on over 700,000 words used in the English language. Some parts-of-speech are not covered due to the samples used by the British National Corpus. (note: percents less than one-hundredth of one percent have been omitted)

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