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Car0lina



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Question on Age Factor Reply with quote

How much of a factor is being "older?" I am 46 and my husband is 57. We are both younger looking, but not THAT young! How tough will it be, especially for my husband? Would we be better off trying to secure a position for me first, and then try to find him work once we're there- or will that not make any difference?

Any insight appreciated! Sorry if this question is already answered somewhere- for some reason I can't get the search function to work... just get a blank screen back.

Thanks
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Ruraljuror



Joined: 08 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are thousands of vacancies. If some jobs won't want you, many others will. They are just looking for a warm body to place in front of the kids and pretty much any warm body will do.

Start contacting recruiters...I'd be shocked if any recruiters turned you down.

Good luck.
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Car0lina



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Great- thanks! Reply with quote

Appreciate the quick response!
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Jessie41



Joined: 14 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 43 and just finished a one-year contract with EPIK and going to SMOE next month. There were many teachers in their 40s and 50s at my EPIK orientation in 2008, although not the majority. However, I believe the new EPIK requirements set a cut-off age of 55, but perhaps they can waive it based on your situation and their needs. It can't hurt to try. I'm not sure if SMOE and GEPIK have age limits. Hagwons are a different story.
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Car0lina



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 12:59 pm    Post subject: Hagwons? Reply with quote

Thanks for replying- How are Hagwons different with respect to age?
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afsjesse



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You must also remember that age also garners respect in Korea. So you should use this to your advantage when you do get a job. I like in Uljin County which hires teachers directly, outside of EPIK and there are a few teachers in their mid to late 50's who are doing quite well in this regard.

Use it to your benefit!

Suerte,

Jesse
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Car0lina



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Thanks Jesse Reply with quote

How would I go about applying in that region? Are they hiring? My husband and I are really excited about getting this going!
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afsjesse



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All positions are full I'm afraid. Most teachers renewed this year. Although I am leaving my job, it is one of the few EPIK positions in this province.
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Car0lina



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Oh well- Reply with quote

thanks for the info anyway!
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Epicurus



Joined: 18 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carolina, first of all I am surprised you haven't yet been assaulated by various moralizers that populate Dave's about "robbing the cradle".

your husband, I mean.

How do you feel about having had your "crable robbed"?
do you feel robbed?

anyways - in regards to your queeries, this can go different ways.

Some schools and admins want young(er) people. As noted, the Russian look is preferred on American females (young, lean, blonde)

Your age and your husband's can be both a draw and a benefit. I admit it will be slightly more difficulty for your hubby, the "cradle robber" because I think it does get more difficult after 50, most certainly after 55.

However, if a school "likes" you (how and why they do/would would be the subject of a very long meandering post, it's all very fickle) -being old(er) will garner you additional respect.

My advice would be to display an affection for your younger students, don't be too anal about things and be friendly/smile (while having limits/boundaries).

Typically schools will worry about an older person's energy levels and how they will relate to their students.

There are some older PS teachers who are doing fairly well in Korea.
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Jessie41



Joined: 14 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Hagwons? Reply with quote

Car0lina wrote:
Thanks for replying- How are Hagwons different with respect to age?


I'll clarify. What I meant is it is hard to generalize what a hagwon owner or manager would want. I don't have experience with hagwons, but I heard it may be harder for an older person to get a job in Seoul or Busan, because these are popular areas. But I wouldn't let this discourage you. In the small town I was in last year, the hagwon didn't have any native-speaking English teachers and likely does not even try to look for any. In their case, I don't think age would matter.

The easiest way to start would probably be to sign-up with a recruiter.
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Kikomom



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use this Google site for searching here on Dave's. MUCH better than the search function here:
http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=006359271486458796786%3Azldpir6y9yy
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Car0lina



Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Thanks so much Reply with quote

You have all been very helpful- thanks so much. And funny btw! My husband tries to get me to rob his cradle every night, but I guess that's off-topic! Wink
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andrew



Joined: 30 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Last edited by andrew on Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:22 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epicurus wrote:
Carolina, first of all I am surprised you haven't yet been assaulated by various moralizers that populate Dave's about "robbing the cradle".

your husband, I mean.

How do you feel about having had your "crable robbed"?
do you feel robbed?



LOL. It depends when they got married... If they are recently married...it's not exactly robbing the cradle is it? If she got married at 16...well then maybe her cradle was robbed -_-


Anyways, back on topic. Carolina, rural areas are more accomodating to older folk...generally because they have a tougher time getting teachers so they take what they can get. Be that as it may, there are quite a few rural areas which fall under GEPIK (Gyeonggi province), and they generally offer pretty good couple housing too. The district I work for (Hwaseong), has quite a few older teachers, (50+) and last year there was a guy who was 69..so age is definitly not an issue. You've just got to realise that you can't be as selective, and expend your efforts going for the "less-desirable" areas.

PS. You've probably missed the boat for the September hiring phase. Your best bet is to get in early for March. If you want to come over before then...usually some positions open up around the end of October/November...so start getting your docs together and getting in contact with recruiters. Good luck
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