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Car0lina
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina
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 Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: Looking for some help from "older" teachers |
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I'm wondering if any "older" teachers could me some guidance on what specific schools/institutions might be willing to hire us old folks? I am 46 and my husband is 47. I'm not really getting anywhere with recruiters, and would to like apply directly to schools, if that's possible?
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refikaM
Joined: 06 May 2006
Location: Gangwondo
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: older |
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| Hi.. You're a couple of babies!! : ) There are many EPIK public school teachers in their 40s and 50s here in Gangwondo. Try contacting National EPIK if you'd rather not go through a recruiter. However, they might tell you all postions are filled (from what I've heard) for Sept starts.. There are recruiters that help teachers specifically interested in Gangwondo, but I'm sorry I don't know who they are. A decent recruiter can help a lot. I and many of my friends who came to Gangwondo 3 years ago came through a recruiter. Unfortunately, that recruiter we used is either no longer in business, or has changed its name.. It was NetKorea.. Maybe you can find out what became of them.... Good luck! |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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The schools out in the country are more flexible and you may prefer that than the city life. That's where age plays a big part. High schools might hire older people also. I have a few more years before I have to worry about that, so I can't help further  |
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Kurtz
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| A friend just got a nice job in a high school teaching elite students in Gimhae and he's a crusty 62 year old. |
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Theo
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for some help from "older" teachers |
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| Car0lina wrote: |
| I'm wondering if any "older" teachers could me some guidance on what specific schools/institutions might be willing to hire us old folks? I am 46 and my husband is 47. I'm not really getting anywhere with recruiters |
OK, people, pay attention to the numbers...
| Car0lina wrote: |
| I jus had a very discouraging talk with Rowan at ELS-Planet. He said public schools don't hire at all after age 54, and my husband is 58. |
Hmmm... The plot thickens...
| Car0lina wrote: |
| I've gotten conflicting responses (imagine that) to my questions about bring a small pet. Is it a problem to have a small dog in your apartment? I know about dog on the menus in some areas.. Should I be worried about this?? |
Did you put these questions to ESL-Planet recruiter, Rowan?
Might explain the lack of enthusiasm, ya think?
| Car0lina wrote: |
| We don't have any real teaching experience- although my husband did some substitute teaching years ago |
You're hired!
This, plus the age factor (not to mention the dog), is making you (as a couple) less and less desirable/employable in the eyes of Korean ESL employers.
I offered you some very detailed advice, opinions, and experiential information via PM a few days ago, but no response (offered email address as well).
Good luck. Bye Bye! |
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Car0lina
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: So.. |
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| Kurtz wrote: |
| A friend just got a nice job in a high school teaching elite students in Gimhae and he's a crusty 62 year old. |
That's really nice to hear- any way you could ask him if he'd be willing to talk to me? I actually typo'd on my husband's age- he's 58. 
I sure would be thrilled to talk someone who just went through the process, in our age range!
Thanks so much- |
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Kurtz
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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He's in Japan now but he just took an add off Dave's and applied. He isn't an Education or English major, he only has an online TESOL but has 4 years experience teaching here in Korea.
What set him apart was a very interesting and literate front cover on his application, which a past recruiter commented on, and an offbeat demo class where he talked about esoterical topics which is what he's into.
To set yourself apart from the eager masses is to use your life experience to your advantage and show you have something different to offer. Most schools want young and attractive kids, but some higher end schools want someone intelligent and interesting for the students as my friend found out. |
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Car0lina
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: Thanks |
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| Thanks for the info Kurt. We aren't giving up. |
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Car0lina
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: Looking for some help from "older" teachers |
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| Theo wrote: |
Hmmm... The plot thickens...
Did you put these questions to ESL-Planet recruiter, Rowan?
Might explain the lack of enthusiasm, ya think?
You're hired!
This, plus the age factor (not to mention the dog), is making you (as a couple) less and less desirable/employable in the eyes of Korean ESL employers.
I offered you some very detailed advice, opinions, and experiential information via PM a few days ago, but no response (offered email address as well).
Good luck. Bye Bye! |
Actually, I didn't mention the dog, Theo, and as far as your PM, I don't think I'm required to answer it! You were very clear that you had a "horrible" experience, and I saw the same in all your posts. |
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AgentM
Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| This is probably not much help, but I know my mom is in her late 50s and working in a hagwon (although she did have the advantage of previous teaching experience). So there are schools out there that will hire older folks. |
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Car0lina
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina
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| Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: AgentM |
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| This is probably not much help, but I know my mom is in her late 50s and working in a hagwon (although she did have the advantage of previous teaching experience). So there are schools out there that will hire older folks. |
You think she might be willing to chat with me via email (I don't have PM yet). I would be very grateful! |
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Theo
Joined: 04 Jul 2009
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Looking for some help from "older" teachers |
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| Car0lina wrote: |
| Actually, I didn't mention the dog, Theo, and as far as your PM, I don't think I'm required to answer it! You were very clear that you had a "horrible" experience, and I saw the same in all your posts. |
I didn't say that you're REQUIRED to do anything. I offered you lots of information, far more than just that I had a horrible experience. And you did say: "I sure would be thrilled to talk someone who just went through the process, in our age range!"
Well, I'm 55, from NC like you, and went through 'the process' last year (with all the same hoop-jumping), and yet, because I didn't paint Korea in the happy-fantasy you want it to be, you keep turning to others until you come up with answers that fit your agenda.
But as with "all your posts," I keep seeing your relentless roster of questions posed in different threads again and again and again.
Where can my husband and I get hired? (except for times when "my husband tries to get me to rob his cradle every night")
How do we get hired?
Who do I talk to?
Will they call me?
I'm not sure what you mean by Medical Certificate? Was it just a letter you typed yourself?
Do all criminal Background checks need to be Apostilled? Is that the only document that requires it? Will I need it for my Transcript as well?
What are differences should I know about regarding public vs. private schools?
How tough will it be, especially for my husband?
Why are recruiters not intrested in us?
How old is "too old" to teach in Korea, even though my husband and I have no teaching experience?
What are the names of schools who will hire us?
Where is that place in Korea?
What are some rural areas that will hire an older couple?
How do you go about contacting schools directly? How do you find them?
How would I go about applying in that region?
Clearly you did zilch amount of research, and require LOTS of hand-holding.
And then when folks try to give you useful, comphensive answers, the same or very similar questions come 'round again.
I can't imagine why after speaking with you, recruiters would not wamt to send a contract to you ASAP.
It couldn't possibly be anything you might have said during the interview.
Nah! |
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pie eater
Joined: 07 Jul 2009
Location: The Bando
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 1:22 am Post subject: Re: Looking for some help from "older" teachers |
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| Car0lina wrote: |
Actually, I didn't mention the dog, Theo, and as far as your PM, I don't think I'm required to answer it! You were very clear that you had a "horrible" experience, and I saw the same in all your posts. |
You are not required to do anything but not giving reciept for when someone has gone out of the way to give you advice is very rude and your attitude is awful. Mind you - I think you will fit in with your Korean co-workers with that crappy attitude.
Anyway - I can tell you that this summer has been a freak of nature in regards hiring - you would have got hired last year with no problems and I am sure when the recession dies down - you will get hired next year.
But all the oldies, fatties, uglies, the Kiwis, the Brits, the Aussies, the Paddies and the Saffers - the so called 'non desireables' of the teaching world are not getting much of a look in this year by the sounds of it.
You'll find something if you keep going, but don't hang your hopes on flying out anytime before September the 1st. |
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dragon777
Joined: 06 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: |
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Just remember 'pie eater' :
But all the oldies, fatties, uglies, the Kiwis, the Brits, the Aussies, the Paddies and the Saffers - the so called 'non desireables' of the teaching world are not getting much of a look in this year by the sounds of it.
that all these types of persons have made an in road to the Esl industry in Korea, and that they are there for a reason buddy.
What do you look like??? |
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Car0lina
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina
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| Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:21 am Post subject: Theo |
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| Clear I offended you Theo, and that was not my intention at all- apologies for that. |
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