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kantoi09
Joined: 02 May 2009
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: EPIK Gangwon...NOT SURE IF I SHOULD TAKE IT |
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OK...TODAY I WAS ACCPETED INTO THE EPIK GANGWON PROVINCE. BUT I AM NOT SURE IF IT WILL BE TOO RURAL FOR ME. IF ANYONE HAS EXPERIENCE THERE CAN YOU PLEASE INFORM ME ABOUT GANGWON? I AM LOOKING FOR A PLACE WITH ALOT TO OFFER WHEN IT COMES TO NATURE BUT I WANT PLACE THAT I CAN SOCIALIZE WITH OTHER EXPATS AND LOCALS. I DON'T NEED ALOT EXPATS AROUND, BUT I STILL NEED TO SOCIALIZE. AND WHAT IS THERE TO DO BESIDES HIKING AND STUFF? I AM REALLY INTO THE ARTS , POETRY/WRITING, PHOTOGRAPHY, GALLERIES AND CAFES THAT PEOPLE GO TO HANGOUT? SHOULD I ASKED EPIK FOR ANOTHER LOCATION OR GO WITH A PRIVATE SCHOOL? THE REASON THAT GANGWON APPEALS TO ME IS THE HOURS AND VACATION TIME. IS THERE ANY OTHER PROVINCE THAT MATCHES THE HOURS AND VACATION TIME BUT HAS MORE TO OFFER SOCIALLY AND CULTURALLY? I KNOW THAT I AM ASKING ALOT BUT I AM MAKING SURE THAT I COVER ALL MY BASES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OH YEAH I ALSO APPLIED TO SMOE AND GEPIK. BUT SEOUL IS NOT REALLY MY FIRST CHOICE. MY FIRST CHOICE FOR EPIK WAS BUSAN. |
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Surfer Rosa
Joined: 24 Mar 2009
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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HAI GUYZ WUTZ GOING ON IN THIS THREAD??11 |
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thinkblue
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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hey kantoi09
Was Gangwon any of your choices with EPIK? I applied to EPIK too and just waiting for placement and I was wondering if I'm going to get any of my top choices of location to teach at. Hope you can reply to this. Thanks! |
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afsjesse

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Go with it. If you get Gangneung, Wonju, Chuncheon, Donghae, Samcheok or Sokcho then socializing will not be a problem. Anything else will most likely have some foreigners but not many. The least dense county in Gangwon is Inje and even there there are 5 foreigners. I've visited there many times and it's my favorite province. Don't worry too much about being too rural. Buses go everywhere and you'd be crazy to pass up 5 weeks of vacation. As far as EPIK is concerned it's the best province imo.
I tried to get in last year and it was full. I took Gyeongbuk... blah.......
Good luck! |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, please don't type in full caps as it won't be well received by many on this site.
You're like me. You want to enjoy nature and fresh air, but you also need the arts, culture, and intellegent people to associate with. That's a tough mix to collaborate all togethor into a lifestyle here, geographically speaking, because Seoul is for culture, arts, and people, but Gangwon is for nature, hiking, fishing, camping, etc.
In Gangwondo, it's tough to socialize with foreigners as they're thinly spread out as well as being indepedent loner types who want to imerse into another culture and locals typically, rarely, and I mean rarely, speak English or associate with you unless you speak Korean correctly. Two old man in my small town speaks English, but they don't associate with me any more than asking me why I came here due to a 20 to 30 year age difference. I have 2 female co-teachers that speak English, but they're married women raising small children. If the men did associate, it would involve drinking the worlds worst brew which I have no interest in their bland white light restaurant drinking parties with no music nor high quality anything. It's cheap and basic styl. We're so spoiled in the West with music, stylish atmospheric culture experiences, and high quality products as well as a full variety of people, products, and things to do and see.
In the small towns and rural areas, there's an absence of young to middle aged adults with the exception of teachers, police, firemen, and bankers, but they don't normally associate with us. You can request to go to a city such as Chuncheon, Wonju, or Gangnueng where you have access to some of amenities cities offer while having quick access to the country as well as not having the heavy air and water pollution Seoul suffers. It's not guaranteed on getting the specific city location you choose as location preference for 1st year EPIK teachers is only pin downable to the province which usually is a rural/small town assignment and then they let those with 1 year under their belt transfer if they want. That's what I'm told anyhow. I thought I was going to a smallish city, but ended up in one of the most rural parts of Korea where it's 2 hours each way to a big box store and Korea's smallest foreigner bar, the Bumpin' bar in Gangnueng. They also have a nice italian restaurant in Gangnueng too as well as a McDonald's. |
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oldtactics

Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu May 28, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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I live in Chuncheon and I'm insanely happy - great city, everything I need, great expats, good transportation and good nightlife. I realize that I'm biased but I think that Gangwon is the best province in the country. The bus system here is reliable so even if you're in a smaller town, you'll be within an hour of a city no matter where you go.
There have been a few other threads about Gangwon-do recently so keep an eye out for those, and feel free to ask questions here if you've got any.
And to answer your question about cultural stuff/arts/cafes/etc, there's LOTS of that in every city in this province, and probably lots of it in the smaller towns as well. Rural in Korea doesn't mean the same as rural back home - everything is much closer together and in my experience, there's no shortage of socializing opportunities if you want to meet people. |
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kantoi09
Joined: 02 May 2009
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Thank you guys for the response. I am so sorry for writing in caps. I won't do it next time. I did not mean anything about it. I just sometimes do that because it is easier just to type that way for me. I was typing it up pretty late at nigh. I did not mean to offend anyone. But thank you Robot Teacher for the heads up. Hey thinkblue, I applied for EPIK between late April to early May. And Gangwon was my second choice. My first choice was Busan but that filled up pretty quickly. However, the women that interviewed me for EPIK said Gangwon does not fill up too quickly so I don't have to worry about going to my third choice, which I can't even remember what it was. I hope that helps. When did you apply for Epik and with which recruiter? |
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thinkblue
Joined: 15 Apr 2009
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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hey kantoi,
I applied directly with EPIK and applied late April and early May as well but I just submitted my documents in around 2 weeks ago and I'm just waiting for placement now. Busan was also my first choice but I guess that's gone and Daegu is my 2nd choice. Hope I get that and hope Daegu fits me well. Don't know much about Daegu but from research, it sounds like a good/fun place to teach at. Thanks Kantoi for your reply. |
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Robot_Teacher
Joined: 18 Feb 2009 Location: Robotting Around the World
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Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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oldtactics wrote: |
I live in Chuncheon and I'm insanely happy - great city, everything I need, great expats, good transportation and good nightlife. I realize that I'm biased but I think that Gangwon is the best province in the country. The bus system here is reliable so even if you're in a smaller town, you'll be within an hour of a city no matter where you go.
There have been a few other threads about Gangwon-do recently so keep an eye out for those, and feel free to ask questions here if you've got any.
And to answer your question about cultural stuff/arts/cafes/etc, there's LOTS of that in every city in this province, and probably lots of it in the smaller towns as well. Rural in Korea doesn't mean the same as rural back home - everything is much closer together and in my experience, there's no shortage of socializing opportunities if you want to meet people. |
Yes, Chuncheon is quite very different than most of the province and is where many of us wish we could be. It's said nearly everyone are happy there as it offers a good balanced lifestyle. You have a city with plenty of public transit, good fishing lakes, entertainment, shopping, and social options with quick access to both Seoul and the country areas South and East of you, but when you get out in small towns far off the toll motorways into hilly mountain country, bus service ends around an early 7PM. Most adults have a car out where I'm at as you need it if you're going to be happy living in the sticks as to manage a balanced lifestyle in a timely manner that makes sense. Mostly old retirees, kids, and young soldiers and the thinly spread out foreigners here rely on the limited public transit, because they don't have cars. A great deal of us out here in Pyeongchang, Yeongwol, and Jeongseon rural counties are leaving this August so there're going to be lots of these jobs open to filled by 1st year EPIK teachers. Of the 60 Gangwon openings for this Fall, it's clear to me that 2/3 of the positions will be in the rural small hill towns of the 3 counties I listed. They told me I was going to a city as I requested from my recruiter to be in Gangnueng, Wonju or Chuncheon, but that got changed upon arrival to a tiny town in the most rural hilly winding road part of South Korea. Some people like it and stay for years such as married couples raising a kid and some don't such as one single young woman who left at her 9 month mark due to going stir crazy over isolation, boredom, and severe limitations of everything except fresh air.
My town is NOT only 1 hour from a city, it's 2 hours to Gangnueng, nearly 3 hours to Chuncheon and the buses stop at 7PM going to and from my local area. Rural is quite very different than you state, but I can see how you'd perceive it to be like you say due to living in Chuncheon, the largest Gangwon city that resembles nothing what the province is actually like living out in. You probably can also make friends in Chuncheon and get in a car which is so quick and easy compared to limited rural buses. It's fairly short distances as you state, but the roads are tied to the mountain range like shoestrings with dogmatically slow speeds due to the roads being loopy and hilly where often you have to go 10mph to get around all these 310 degree loops on 10% to 50% grade inclines. There are only 3 buses a day to Chuncheon, 3 buses a day to Wonju, 4 buses to Seoul, and 12 to Gangnueng; all 2 to 3.5 hour or more trips depending on traffic. To visit Wonju, Chucheon, or Seoul, I have to spend the night as the bus returning home is too early. You need a car being out in the rural where the roads are shoestringed around the mountains to have access to just go in a timely manner. It takes me 40 minutes just to get to my local bus station, the schedules are limited, and then travel is super slow so it takes 1/2 to 3/4 day to go anywhere and then another 1/2 to 3/4 day to return. Otherwise, your ability to be mobile is severely restricted. No one would like what I'm going through except for hermits only focused on saving money. It sure would be nice to know of a group, get in someones car, and go someplace today, but I know hardly no one in this country. I didn't like finding I'd have to leave at 7:00AM or 2PM or 5PM to go to Chuncheon, nearly 3 hours ride and then stay the night without understanding if I could or would find a room during a big festival.
If you're young and single or simply single, don't accept anything less than a city such as Gangnueng, Wonju, or Chuncheon with Chuncheon being most preferable unless you want to really live the hermit lifestyle. I think a huge part of why I don't like being here is my rural location situation severly limiting my living to the point all you can do is be alone and while we all need some peace and quiet alone, it get's depressing after months of being alone and getting to do much of anything. I know I'm tired of isolation, but hate long bus rides with severely limited service. What I'm talking about is a very different Korea experience than what most of you are seeing. OK, that's my rant opposing rural assignments. It's OK for 3 months, but a year? Give me a dam break. That's ridiculously long to be this isolated as if I've incarcerated myself. When I leave, eat a taco, see my friends, go shopping, go for a day of lake fishing, see a nice concert, etc., it's going to feel like getting out of jail. I've never been so lonesome, bored, and isolated feeling in my entire life and I grew up in a small town in the Midwest of the USA. At least there I had people to relate with and plenty to do, except work as there isn't enough work. |
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zxion
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: EPIK Gangwon...NOT SURE IF I SHOULD TAKE IT |
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kantoi09 wrote: |
OK...TODAY I WAS ACCPETED INTO THE EPIK GANGWON PROVINCE. BUT I AM NOT SURE IF IT WILL BE TOO RURAL FOR ME. IF ANYONE HAS EXPERIENCE THERE CAN YOU PLEASE INFORM ME ABOUT GANGWON? I AM LOOKING FOR A PLACE WITH ALOT TO OFFER WHEN IT COMES TO NATURE BUT I WANT PLACE THAT I CAN SOCIALIZE WITH OTHER EXPATS AND LOCALS. I DON'T NEED ALOT EXPATS AROUND, BUT I STILL NEED TO SOCIALIZE. AND WHAT IS THERE TO DO BESIDES HIKING AND STUFF? I AM REALLY INTO THE ARTS , POETRY/WRITING, PHOTOGRAPHY, GALLERIES AND CAFES THAT PEOPLE GO TO HANGOUT? SHOULD I ASKED EPIK FOR ANOTHER LOCATION OR GO WITH A PRIVATE SCHOOL? THE REASON THAT GANGWON APPEALS TO ME IS THE HOURS AND VACATION TIME. IS THERE ANY OTHER PROVINCE THAT MATCHES THE HOURS AND VACATION TIME BUT HAS MORE TO OFFER SOCIALLY AND CULTURALLY? I KNOW THAT I AM ASKING ALOT BUT I AM MAKING SURE THAT I COVER ALL MY BASES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. OH YEAH I ALSO APPLIED TO SMOE AND GEPIK. BUT SEOUL IS NOT REALLY MY FIRST CHOICE. MY FIRST CHOICE FOR EPIK WAS BUSAN. |
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Triban

Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Location: Suwon Station
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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HAI I HERD KANYE WEST TIPES IN AL CAPS ON HIZ BLOGZ. |
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soyoungmikey
Joined: 29 Jun 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:39 pm Post subject: Not for everyone |
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Hello,
Wondering about Gangwon-do. I currently live in Chuncheon and it's not a great city to live in. The transportation is not that great unless you want to wait for an hour for a bus, or you can take a cab so i guess that's no problem. Not much of a nightlife if you're into that. There are a few good spots to see in the downtown (walk 5 mins and the downtown is done). Yes there are wonderful mountains and lakes to see, but if you have no car then your out of luck. If you don't mind early nights and clean air then please come on on down. If you expect excitement and alot to do then you are in the wrong place. |
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oldtactics

Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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No offence soyoungmikey but how long have you lived in Chuncheon? Have you spent any time around Kangwon University or in 2Top City? The restaurants/bars in those two areas stay open past sunrise every night - I'd hardly say there's no nightlife, I think you're just looking in the wrong place. |
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kantoi09
Joined: 02 May 2009
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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i decided to go for it. i am leaving in august |
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Morgen

Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:36 am Post subject: |
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Gangwon is generally a good place to be, but you need to reconcile yourself before you come to the fact that you'll probably be in the country. Country jobs tend to need to be refilled every year, whereas city schools either keep their teachers or have already signed someone for their second year. Renewing teachers have first dibs on the six main cities where everyone wants to be, which sucks for you now but is good news if you can make it through a year wherever they stick you. And unless you have a serious dependence on social interaction, you can make it. It's just a year and you'll be on vacation for like two months of that, and high-speed internet goes everywhere. It also helps to be near the beach.
Speaking from experience, though, the main drawback is the lack of variety of foreigners. If you don't happen to click with the ones in your immediate area (or there aren't any) you either have to suck it up and smile through your teeth, or spend hours on a bus every weekend going somewhere else. |
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