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SNU TEPS test editor - anybody done this job before?
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teacher!



Joined: 19 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:02 am    Post subject: SNU TEPS test editor - anybody done this job before? Reply with quote

I have gotten through the first round of the application process for a test editor position at SNU. Has anybody worked there in this position before or worked there presently? At present, I've been teaching for four years straight and wouldn't mind a desk job for a while. Thanks in advance for anyone who knows something.
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teacher!



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobody? nobody at all at SNU? anyone with any kind of experience there would be appreciated, thanks.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck with that. Koreans take test taking to a whole different level. Not necessarily in a good way.
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latereducator



Joined: 29 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking at such a position with SNU, too, but I haven't been able to find much in the way of posts from people who have worked there or know anything at all about what might be expected. The closest thread I found was this one: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1606979, which mentions that the LEI suffers from poor management and a high turnover rate. Will let you know if I find anything, and I hope you will do likewise.
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Hamlet



Joined: 18 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't work at SNU, but I do the exact same thing for another company. If you take that job, you'll be writing and editing test questions for TEPS. I saw the SNU job posted on Daves and thought of applying for it because it comes with 4 weeks of vacation, which is very good for publishing work.

The Pros, in my opinion:
The job feels much more professional than teaching kids in a hagwan.

I've been doing this work for 4 years. Now on my resume I have solid experience in the publishing industry, which is much better than 4 years experience teaching English.

I have 9 published books with my name on the cover, which are fun to show visitors!

I like the work because I like researching and writing.

The Cons, in my opinion,
If you're used to teaching, you will be in shock when after an 8 hour day you have not spoken a word to anyone. If you need interaction with people to be happy, you may not like this work.

It's the same damn thing every day. For example, I'm writing a book that has 20 sets of questions and dialogs. One test has 40 questions. Thats 800 questions. I can write 5 sets of questions and dialogs in one day, so 25 in a week, 100 per month...that's 8 months for one project writing dialog after dialog after dialog...after dialog...you get the point.

...got to get back to my dialogs now. Hope that info helps.
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teacher!



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey, thanks for the input. not talking to anyone all days sounds fine to me for a while!
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The evil penguin



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

teacher! wrote:
hey, thanks for the input. not talking to anyone all days sounds fine to me for a while!


Try to get a private office... trust me, it's pretty damn hard to concentrate on editing when there's a constant background of korean babble as your coworkers do their internet shopping... ....
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Hamlet



Joined: 18 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Try to get a private office... trust me, it's pretty damn hard to concentrate on editing when there's a constant background of korean babble as your coworkers do their internet shopping


I share my office with 6 Korean coworkers and none of them "babble." As far as Internet shopping goes, I do all my shopping on gmarket from the office.

Also, I think being stuck in an office by myself all day every day would be torturous--solitary confinement anyone? I like hearing the sounds of other people typing and turning pages.
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pushpin fantasies



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just out of curiosity, what kind of requirements did SNU have for that position? what about requirements on the part of immigration?
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Hamlet



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SNU wanted a masters, I believe.

If they use the same visa as my publishing company, it's an E7, and it's a breeze as far as immigration is concerned.

...no Criminal Background Check
...no health check
...no ridiculous consulate interview
...and it can be renewed every year without leaving the country.
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teacher!



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pushpin fantasies wrote:
just out of curiosity, what kind of requirements did SNU have for that position? what about requirements on the part of immigration?


Check it out for yourself:

http://www.eslcafe.com/jobs/korea/index.cgi?read=38150

AS for visa stuff, I've got an F-2, so it wasn't anything I had to look into or ask about.
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pushpin fantasies



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting... thank you both Smile
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KoreanAmbition



Joined: 03 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be really interested to hear what the salary is for that job. Please let us know if you hear anything. I'll guess around 2.5 million per month.


As for housing, try to get into the provided housing... especially if you're married.

If you're single, you'll get a studio apartment, but it's a nice studio, and has a washing machine and air-conditioner. If you're married, you'll get a 2-bedroom apartment and it's really big (from Seoul standards).

As with most jobs, I would expect some random headaches with the SNU job (due to admin-related issues) but you don't have to worry about your contract. Getting paid on time, receiving pension, getting severance, or getting all the vacation you're entitled to, is something that you can 100% count on getting.

SNU might not always be perfect, but from a "legal" standpoint they are nothing but straight-arrow and completely by the book.

Oh, and the free Korean classes are a nice perk as well.

One negative is that I'm not sure if you'll get much (or any) overtime through that position.

If you have more questions, feel free to ask.
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The Grumpy Senator



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KoreanAmbition wrote:
SNU might not always be perfect, but from a "legal" standpoint they are nothing but straight-arrow and completely by the book.


Didn't one of the administators over the English department at Seoul National University of Education just get fired (and possibly more) because she was keeping the Evaluation Bonuses of all the foreign instructors?
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KoreanAmbition



Joined: 03 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a rumour...

actually... you even completely worded it like nothing other than a rumour.

Did that happen? I never heard of that. If it's true, then just direct me to the link so I can read about it.

Besides, that would be CEP anyways, which is a different department. The OP is referring to the LEI.

Also, if your story is true...it said the person got fired. I would guess that means they are "straight arrow" and most likely the workers got their money.

Meanwhile, I've never heard of such a story.
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