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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Thank God for Korean class. Reply with quote

First, it saved me from samba classes with the Ko-teachers. Now, it's a completely reasonable excuse why I *can't* stay after work every day for an hour to "play" with the other teachers' kids.

"Do you mean like.... play 'play' or ... teach 'play'?"
"Oh you know. Mix."
"I teach middle school and adults. I don't have any materials or lesson plans prepared for teaching six year olds."
"But you can learn it with your intuition! Your teacher intuition very strong."
".... Yeah. I have Korean class."

I'm going to have a t shirt made. "Sorry. I have Korean class." Gets you out of anything.
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The evil penguin



Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Doing something naughty near you.....

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To save on printing costs, why not just get the word "No"?
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The evil penguin wrote:
To save on printing costs, why not just get the word "No"?


Because one of the teachers who's apparently interested is a super hot single dad?

Just kidding. Kind of.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The smartest post I've seen in a long time.

Just say no to unpaid overtime.

The evil penguin wrote:
To save on printing costs, why not just get the word "No"?
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
The smartest post I've seen in a long time.

Just say no to unpaid overtime.

The evil penguin wrote:
To save on printing costs, why not just get the word "No"?


One way or another, there was no way in hell I was going to plan and execute off-the-clock classes for an age group I have no interest in ever even teaching, for free. The fact that someone could be so bold as to suggest such a thing, and persist, even after I ask if she's suggesting that I:

a. prepare materials
b. purchase books out of my own pocket
c. stay after work, which already includes a significant amount of overtime


is pretty appalling. And I now know to be more careful of this individual.

But saying I have Korean class just gets it over with faster.

On a more serious note, I am thinking of bringing this up later to make my own point.

"Oh, my Korean class ended last week. Too bad I still can't 'play' with your kids."

"Why?"

"Because the government's cracking down on illegal privates right now, and if anyone were to find out I was 'playing' with your kids and misunderstand it as private lessons, I could end up in serious trouble. It's too bad the Korean government won't allow E2s to hold their own visas and teach wherever they want, so long as they're reporting it, because then I would be free to stay after work and teach your kid the alphabet. Which I was really, really hoping to be able to do. Oh well."
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The evil penguin



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="] I'm no PicassoOn a more serious note, I am thinking of bringing this up later to make my own point.

"Oh, my Korean class ended last week. Too bad I still can't 'play' with your kids."

"Why?"

"Because the government's cracking down on illegal privates right now, and if anyone were to find out I was 'playing' with your kids and misunderstand it as private lessons, I could end up in serious trouble. It's too bad the Korean government won't allow E2s to hold their own visas and teach wherever they want, so long as they're reporting it, because then I would be free to stay after work and teach your kid the alphabet. Which I was really, really hoping to be able to do. Oh well."[/quote]

"No" has fewer syllables to pronounce and thereby preserves your larynx for norae-bang and soju sessions in your free time. Not to mention earning you greater respect from your colleagues/boss.


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I'm no Picasso



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The evil penguin wrote:
[quote="I'm no Picasso]On a more serious note, I am thinking of bringing this up later to make my own point.

"Oh, my Korean class ended last week. Too bad I still can't 'play' with your kids."

"Why?"

"Because the government's cracking down on illegal privates right now, and if anyone were to find out I was 'playing' with your kids and misunderstand it as private lessons, I could end up in serious trouble. It's too bad the Korean government won't allow E2s to hold their own visas and teach wherever they want, so long as they're reporting it, because then I would be free to stay after work and teach your kid the alphabet. Which I was really, really hoping to be able to do. Oh well."


"No" has fewer syllables to pronounce and thereby preserves your larynx for norae-bang and soju sessions in your free time. Not to mention earning you greater respect from your colleagues/boss.[/quote]

I hate noraebang though.

"Sorry, I can't join you in noraebang because I injured my throat giving long excuses to my co-teacher about why I can't teach her six year old English for free."

Maybe you're right. This could go on forever.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your attempts at humour may work for you, but the better solution is just to say no. Rather than dancing around, avoiding actually standing up for yourself.

What happens when you run out of excuses? No is a reason that will last forever.

I'm no Picasso wrote:
The evil penguin wrote:
[quote="I'm no Picasso]On a more serious note, I am thinking of bringing this up later to make my own point.

"Oh, my Korean class ended last week. Too bad I still can't 'play' with your kids."

"Why?"

"Because the government's cracking down on illegal privates right now, and if anyone were to find out I was 'playing' with your kids and misunderstand it as private lessons, I could end up in serious trouble. It's too bad the Korean government won't allow E2s to hold their own visas and teach wherever they want, so long as they're reporting it, because then I would be free to stay after work and teach your kid the alphabet. Which I was really, really hoping to be able to do. Oh well."


"No" has fewer syllables to pronounce and thereby preserves your larynx for norae-bang and soju sessions in your free time. Not to mention earning you greater respect from your colleagues/boss.


I hate noraebang though.

"Sorry, I can't join you in noraebang because I injured my throat giving long excuses to my co-teacher about why I can't teach her six year old English for free."

Maybe you're right. This could go on forever.[/quote]
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waynehead



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your avoiding the situation with a lie/exaggeration is defn. Korean style, tho. Everyone saves face and you still get what you want.
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AgentM



Joined: 07 Jun 2009
Location: British Columbia, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

waynehead wrote:
Your avoiding the situation with a lie/exaggeration is defn. Korean style, tho. Everyone saves face and you still get what you want.


Yeah, sounds good to me. You don't want to get on people's bad side if you can avoid it with a reasonable excuse.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey guys, the clinic called. They said your spine transplant is available.

AgentM wrote:
waynehead wrote:
Your avoiding the situation with a lie/exaggeration is defn. Korean style, tho. Everyone saves face and you still get what you want.


Yeah, sounds good to me. You don't want to get on people's bad side if you can avoid it with a reasonable excuse.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Picasso wrote:
"Because the government's cracking down on illegal privates right now, and if anyone were to find out I was 'playing' with your kids and misunderstand it as private lessons, I could end up in serious trouble. It's too bad the Korean government won't allow E2s to hold their own visas and teach wherever they want, so long as they're reporting it, because then I would be free to stay after work and teach your kid the alphabet. Which I was really, really hoping to be able to do. Oh well."


From my understanding, your visa ties you to your workplace, as in the address. Doing some work at the same address and with the knowledge of your visa sponsor is legal.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spine transplant? Whoa, good one, you should take your act on the road.
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I'm no Picasso



Joined: 28 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdninkorea wrote:
I'm no Picasso wrote:
"Because the government's cracking down on illegal privates right now, and if anyone were to find out I was 'playing' with your kids and misunderstand it as private lessons, I could end up in serious trouble. It's too bad the Korean government won't allow E2s to hold their own visas and teach wherever they want, so long as they're reporting it, because then I would be free to stay after work and teach your kid the alphabet. Which I was really, really hoping to be able to do. Oh well."


From my understanding, your visa ties you to your workplace, as in the address. Doing some work at the same address and with the knowledge of your visa sponsor is legal.


Can anybody back this up? Just out of curiosity/the future need to know.

As for Ilsanman and "attempts at humor", a "transplant" implies replacing one with another. If I were spineless, I'd need an *implant*. Hoho. Anyway, good luck with that whole screaming-no-in-the-face-of-anyone-in-your-workplace-who-asks-you-to-do-something-you-don't-want-to plan.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm no Picasso wrote:
cdninkorea wrote:
I'm no Picasso wrote:
"Because the government's cracking down on illegal privates right now, and if anyone were to find out I was 'playing' with your kids and misunderstand it as private lessons, I could end up in serious trouble. It's too bad the Korean government won't allow E2s to hold their own visas and teach wherever they want, so long as they're reporting it, because then I would be free to stay after work and teach your kid the alphabet. Which I was really, really hoping to be able to do. Oh well."


From my understanding, your visa ties you to your workplace, as in the address. Doing some work at the same address and with the knowledge of your visa sponsor is legal.


Can anybody back this up? Just out of curiosity/the future need to know.

This is correct.

As for Ilsanman and "attempts at humor", a "transplant" implies replacing one with another. If I were spineless, I'd need an *implant*. Hoho. Anyway, good luck with that whole screaming-no-in-the-face-of-anyone-in-your-workplace-who-asks-you-to-do-something-you-don't-want-to plan.


If someone had told me that one day I would be agreeing with Ilsanman I would have told them never....yet here I am. Guess it's a lesson to me, to never say never.

You don't have to scream no in the face of anyone. Just politely say "No thank you." It works very well. If they ask why you can say that you don't want to or that you are busy.
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