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wylies99

Joined: 13 May 2006 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 2:53 am Post subject: Mom & Pop Shops to Develop Joint Brand |
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Mom & Pop Shops to Develop Joint Brand
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/08/231_49786.html
By Kim Tong-hyung
Staff Reporter
An outcry from small shop owners has erupted over the growing number of ``super supermarkets'' (SSM) operated by mega discount chains, which they see as insurmountable threats to their livelihoods. The complaints have government officials making various promises to help them compete against their bigger, corporate foes.
The Small and Medium Business Administration (SMBA) said it is currently considering new ways to improve the competitiveness of individually owned supermarkets, which includes the strategy of combining them under a single, government-made franchise. This would allow the small shops to reduce costs through the collective purchasing of products and also lower their spending on marketing efforts, SMBA officials said.
SMBA would not require the government-brand supermarkets to share their profits, but would pockets some money from registration fees and a portion of the sales from the joint purchases from wholesalers.
The idea is to simply copy the success formula of the SSM, who benefit from the massive networks of Lotte Mart, Home Plus and E-Mart in sourcing and distributing goods. The SSM also hold clear advantages over smaller stores in inventory management, facilities and quality of service.
According to SMBA's plan, a ``chain headquarters'' would be established in each region to manage the collective purchasing of goods, which will provide up to 50 percent of the items sold at the government-brand supermarkets. The headquarters would also operate an online information system to track inventory and distribution.
The government-brand shops will have coffee tables and television monitors for advertisements, and could also be required to use the same signboards and employee uniforms, SMBA said.
Read the rest at the above link.
Wylies99- I say who cares what happens to the smaller stores in Korea? They charge outrageous prices and offer terrible quality and atrocious customer service. The smaller stores DESERVE to go out of business.
I would recommend that EVERY foreigner in Korea shop ONLY at larger stores because that way you won't be charged the "foreigner price" for products. The larger stores, like Lottemart, E-mart, Costco, and Homeplus don't discriminate against foreigners as customers and they offer decent prices and quality. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Maybe with this new brand name will come accountability.
I support small shops if they're competitive. I'd rather not give my entire paycheck to 2 companies. |
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coralreefer_1
Joined: 19 Jan 2009
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Honestly i doubt that many of these mom and pop stores will pass along reduced costs to the consumer. The issue is not that their costs are extremely high, but that more people are opting to buy in bulk on the weekends at the SSM's than they are to buy their needs daily at the mom and pop stores.
People shop at the SSM's because it is cheaper(compared to small stores). Same reason people forgot about all of the "health" concerns over American beef once it came back to Korea. It's all about the money. They may reduce their costs by forming a group and buying in large quantities together, but I don't see it likely that they will pass those savings onto the consumer..and the prices in these stores will not change, and therefore all of their efforts will be a waste, people will still be stocking up at the SSM's on weekends, only going to mom and pops for emergency alcohol/snacks/cigarettes...etc, and some government agency will make a little money on the side.
Reducing their costs will help them, but that is futile if people are not actually shopping there, which is apparent based on their complaints. Reduce their marketing efforts? What efforts? a banner outside? |
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oskinny1

Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Location: Right behind you!
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Mom & Pop Shops to Develop Joint Brand |
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wylies99 wrote: |
I would recommend that EVERY foreigner in Korea shop ONLY at larger stores because that way you won't be charged the "foreigner price" for products. The larger stores, like Lottemart, E-mart, Costco, and Homeplus don't discriminate against foreigners as customers and they offer decent prices and quality. |
I get plenty of foreigner pricing. D/C nearly every time I shop at my local. The last thing I want to do is hope in some taxi or wait for a nonexistant bus at 12am when I feel the urge for something to much or drink.
If I have to pay an extra 500 won (when they don't give me the D/C) for that convenience, so be it. Not all of us live within walking distance of SSM. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Mom & Pop Shops to Develop Joint Brand |
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That's why they will never fully die. But they are going to continue to slide and slide, as they can't compete.
oskinny1 wrote: |
wylies99 wrote: |
I would recommend that EVERY foreigner in Korea shop ONLY at larger stores because that way you won't be charged the "foreigner price" for products. The larger stores, like Lottemart, E-mart, Costco, and Homeplus don't discriminate against foreigners as customers and they offer decent prices and quality. |
I get plenty of foreigner pricing. D/C nearly every time I shop at my local. The last thing I want to do is hope in some taxi or wait for a nonexistant bus at 12am when I feel the urge for something to much or drink.
If I have to pay an extra 500 won (when they don't give me the D/C) for that convenience, so be it. Not all of us live within walking distance of SSM. |
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redaxe
Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of the little mom-and-pop "supers" carry black market food products that they get from the US Army or something. If you want to see them disappear, good luck finding that stuff. |
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earthbound14

Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Location: seoul
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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I like the local mom and pop places. Some are shisters, but many are really friendly and sell things far cheapre than the big corporate ones. There was actually a news program a short while ago (in Korean) about how expensive the large stores are compared to the local places. Sometimes as much as twice the price for some items.
I hate E-mart. The local "corner store" (you know those smallish super markets - supa) sells things far cheaper (there is always a discount off the sticker price from the producer - if it's a brand item). Veg is really cheap. It all depends on the shop and the product. I use the local markets and super markets for local products but tend to go to the big chain stores for things like good bread and better prices on nice coffee or even red wine.
The places that charge more are the little 24 convenience stores. If they only sell beer, chips, smokes and a few other items usually only seen in Buy the Way... the convenience stores (pyonwejom). They are more expensive than E-mart.
I think the mom and pop places need some help refining their service too. They don't have the know how or the capital to do what the bigger chains are doing. It is kind of their fault for not offering a better product to begin with, but it is kind of unfair that some companies became so big that they are able to wipe out all the competetion (even if many of them are really good or even better). |
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Paul Ajosshi
Joined: 02 Aug 2009
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not a fan of large supermarkets either. The shopping precinct in my home town in the UK has died a slow and painful death thanks to Tescos and I'm very aware of the threat that E-mart, Costco, Homeplus and the like present to communities and small markets. You may well be able to get some products cheaper at the big stores, but as small businesses fail and markets close you will lose the friendliness and sense of community that can be developed with smaller shops. My butcher knows exactly what cuts I like and doesn't look at me strangely when I ask for large chunks of meat to roast; the vegetable sellers at the local street market give me the same price as Koreans and very often throw in a few extra aubergines or peppers; and the ajumma round the corner always makes sure she has a good supply of my beer of choice.
When I go to E-mart no-one knows me, no-one does me any favours and I get pushed around by aggresive ajummas who like to leave their trolleys in the middle of the aisle.
I'll shop locally for as long as I can, but I know that just like my home town, Korea will suffer from the large supermarkets and the toll they take on the community. |
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alphakennyone

Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Location: city heights
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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the mom and pops have been more expensive than the 24 hour convenience stores about 50% of the time, in my experience. When they're cheaper, I go for the mom n pops. When they're more expensive, I laugh and get things at 7-11 that are less likely to be expired. |
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djsmnc

Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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What the hell is "the foreigner price" ???
The mom and pops have never done anything worse than tell me I speak Korean well too much. |
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Binch Lover
Joined: 25 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Mom & Pop Shops to Develop Joint Brand |
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wylies99 wrote: |
Wylies99- I say who cares what happens to the smaller stores in Korea? They charge outrageous prices and offer terrible quality and atrocious customer service. The smaller stores DESERVE to go out of business.
I would recommend that EVERY foreigner in Korea shop ONLY at larger stores because that way you won't be charged the "foreigner price" for products. The larger stores, like Lottemart, E-mart, Costco, and Homeplus don't discriminate against foreigners as customers and they offer decent prices and quality. |
What is this foreigner price you speak of? I think you need mental help. |
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saw6436
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Daejeon, ROK
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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HomePlus Express opened across the street from my apartment about 9 months ago. As much as I sympathise with the mom & pop places I do prefer HP Express. Better selection, cheaper, fresher, better service.
If the M&P shops form a collective I say more power to them. Especially if it ultimately benefits the consumer. |
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madoka

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Mom & Pop Shops to Develop Joint Brand |
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Binch Lover wrote: |
What is this foreigner price you speak of? I think you need mental help. |
I agree that Wylies needs some professional help. In the end, I don't think he realizes how he contributes to his own misery.
When you are nice to people, people are generally nice back. Case in point: when I go to my local store/restaurant, I chat up the workers, ask them about their day, and wish them well when I leave. The Koreans are especially nice to me back, usually giving me advice, discounts, accomodations or extras. On the other hand, if you have a negative attitude and act like a jerk, then people will respond in kind. In Korea, that manifests itself in the form of the "foreigner price" where you get charged a bit more. I've noticed the guys who complain the most about Korea also get hit with the foreigner price, whereas the guys who like Korea don't even know what that is. |
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pkang0202

Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Back home we had something similar. The local grocers banded together to form a cooperative.
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The company began in 1937 as Richfood, Inc., a Virginia-based cooperative wholesaler formed and managed by its retailer members. The goal of the company was to ensure the survival of the small independent stores that were beginning to feel the pressures of competition from large supermarket chains. The supermarket concept--with its emphasis on service, name brands, and deep discounts--had gradually taken hold since the 1920s and was becoming the standard form of retailing even in rural areas. Unfortunately, at Richfood there was little need for accountability. Patronage rebates and guaranteed price controls on stock were the chief indices by which the company and its members operated, and even thrived, for decades. Richfood's mission, according to Seth Lubove, "was simple: buy groceries from manufacturers, take a standard markup to cover costs and move the goods on to the retail grocers whenever they wanted them, and damn the costs."
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Jane

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I think we have Walmartification going on in Korea. The smaller stores have more difficulty than before competing on cost, which besides convenience is their advantage.
The one thing that differs between North America and Korea however, is there are still a lot of housewife here, and they prefer to buy their veggies daily from the smaller marts, because it's less of a distance to drag their kids.
This fact notwithstanding, I think we are going to see the demise in the next few years of these supers, and if they are 'super' smart, they will slowly change their business model to reflect the new and up-and-coming Korean society; one where women are working and won't be buying produce daily, and where people will be solely doing smokes or snack runs.
This chain thing they are doing my serve to preserve the super as we know it for a bit longer, but I think it will ultimately be in vain. |
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