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Korea's food prices up 12.8% in just 2 years
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Korea's food prices up 12.8% in just 2 years Reply with quote

Here's the consumer price index of Korea from the past year or so. Take a look at the food and non-alcoholic beverages column:

Percent changes from July 2007 to July 2008 shot up 5.9 percent. Then from July 2008 to 2009, they shot up ANOTHER 6.9 percent.

THAT'S 12.8% IN TWO YEARS!

Source: http://www.nso.go.kr/eng2006/e01___0000/e01b__0000/e01ba_0000/e01ba_0000.html?method=view&board_id=102&seq=105&num=105
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asmith



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea's food prices up 12.8% in just 2 years Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Here's the consumer price index of Korea from the past year or so. Take a look at the food and non-alcoholic beverages column:

Percent changes from July 2007 to July 2008 shot up 5.9 percent. Then from July 2008 to 2009, they shot up ANOTHER 6.9 percent.

THAT'S 12.8% IN TWO YEARS!

Source: http://www.nso.go.kr/eng2006/e01___0000/e01b__0000/e01ba_0000/e01ba_0000.html?method=view&board_id=102&seq=105&num=105


This is the effect of the Korean stimulus package. You print more money, prices go up. Inflation.

I eat out once a week. The rest of the time, my wife cooks me crap--like squid and noodles. Yesterday was good. Shabu shabu. But it's an at home deal.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Korea's food prices up 12.8% in just 2 years Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Here's the consumer price index of Korea from the past year or so. Take a look at the food and non-alcoholic beverages column:

Percent changes from July 2007 to July 2008 shot up 5.9 percent. Then from July 2008 to 2009, they shot up ANOTHER 6.9 percent.

THAT'S 12.8% IN TWO YEARS!

Source: http://www.nso.go.kr/eng2006/e01___0000/e01b__0000/e01ba_0000/e01ba_0000.html?method=view&board_id=102&seq=105&num=105


actually its a 13.2% increase over two years genius (1.059)(1.069)=1.132
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Re: Korea's food prices up 12.8% in just 2 years Reply with quote

gakduki wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
Here's the consumer price index of Korea from the past year or so. Take a look at the food and non-alcoholic beverages column:

Percent changes from July 2007 to July 2008 shot up 5.9 percent. Then from July 2008 to 2009, they shot up ANOTHER 6.9 percent.

THAT'S 12.8% IN TWO YEARS!

Source: http://www.nso.go.kr/eng2006/e01___0000/e01b__0000/e01ba_0000/e01ba_0000.html?method=view&board_id=102&seq=105&num=105


actually its a 13.2% increase over two years genius (1.059)(1.069)=1.132


We're both wrong (unless these numbers change periodically).

Now it's 12%
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Sector7G



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know, I am about 3 weeks shy of my two-year mark in Korea, and the prices have been steadily rising ever since I got here. Homeplus has even been jacking up the prices on their generic Tesco brand, which used to be a pretty good bargain. But hell, what can you do?
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eamo



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's shocking.

The Korean herd believe it's all to do with weather, transport costs and seasonal fluctuations. The smart Koreans know it's just the distributers, the middle-men between the farmers and the supermarkets, who jack up the prices.

The classic example was the news story I saw a couple of years ago. The Korean watermelon farmers were complaining bitterly because their normal buyers weren't paying any more than 500 won per watermelon. That's right. 500 won. They had to take it or the melons would've rotted in their sheds. Next thing is those watermelons are being sold in E-mart for 10,000won. What's going on there???

We're getting a royal shafting on food in this country.
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Epicurus



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
It's shocking.

The Korean herd believe it's all to do with weather, transport costs and seasonal fluctuations. The smart Koreans know it's just the distributers, the middle-men between the farmers and the supermarkets, who jack up the prices.

The classic example was the news story I saw a couple of years ago. The Korean watermelon farmers were complaining bitterly because their normal buyers weren't paying any more than 500 won per watermelon. That's right. 500 won. They had to take it or the melons would've rotted in their sheds. Next thing is those watermelons are being sold in E-mart for 10,000won. What's going on there???

We're getting a royal shafting on food in this country.


the Korean teachers at my school told me the same thing vis a vis food prices.

they said too many middlemen, jacking up prices on farm/food products, etc.
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Epicurus



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/08/123_50060.html


Cost of Daily Necessities Soaring

By Yoon Ja-young
Staff Reporter

Park Jeong-seon, a housewife living in Heukseok-dong, southern Seoul, recently bought lettuce seeds, after turning the rooftop of her house into a small farm, cultivating diverse vegetables. On top of her concerns over health, were the soaring prices of vegetables that turned her into an amateur farmer.

The cost of daily necessities is rising fast. It has become another burden on the economy, which is likely to face higher global oil prices in the latter half of the year.

According to the Korea Agro-Fisheries Trade Corporation, the price of lettuce has doubled from a month ago. Sesame leaf, another popular vegetable in Korean dishes, rose by 43 percent. Chinese cabbage, the main ingredient in kimchi, soared a near 30 percent. Vegetable prices also rose between 10 and 20 percent due to heavy rain.

Daily necessities that Korea relies on from imports also soared. CJ Cheiljedang, the main importer of sugar, said it is raising the price of sugar by a near 9 percent from next week.

Other importers are likely to follow the decision of the main player in the oligopoly market. Since sugar is the main ingredient for most processed foods, these are likely to see upward pressure soon.

As beans also marked a steep rise in the global market, the daily necessities that are made of beans, such as oil, are expected to see a rise as well.

The prices of processed foods were already hiked around the end of last year, following the global rise among agricultural goods.

The working class is also suffering from the turbulent housing market. The price of "jeonse," Korea's unique rental system of giving a lump sum deposit to the owner, rose by nearly 1.8 percent in Songpa District, southern Seoul, last month alone. It means those who seek a house a 300-million-won deposit have to give 5.4 million won more.

The cost of buying shops in downtown Seoul soared by over 25 percent between April and July. This is also likely to motivate merchants to raise the prices of the goods and services they sell.

The government, however, doesn't have many options as it bids to cope with inflation. A court recently took the side of hagwon, or private institutes, saying it may be against the constitution for the government to put a price cap on hagwon fees. A global oil price hike, which has more than doubled since last December, is also adding to its concerns.

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Epicurus



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epicurus comment on above:

what's tragically funny (or not)

is that when the price of oil went from 140 to 30, the price of food and other things in Korea was STILL skyrocketing.

Now oil is at 70 something.. may go back toward 100 and they will then blame more increases on oil prices.

yeah, there's inflation stateside too, but the things that go on in Korea are astounding.

(and the people just "take it" )
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Conrad B Hart



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gas bills here shot up and remained high when oil prices dropped. It's a sad fact of Capitalist life that unless you're in the elite minority you get screwed.
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OnTheOtherSide



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, here in the US the working class gets nickel and dimed even harder. In the US, we are getting screwed Ron Jeremy style, not just on food, but in just about every single aspect of the economy. As bad as it is in Korea, it's a step up from Amerika.

Korea would have to raise the food prices by about 40% more for it to even compare to the financial beating that is living in the US.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OnTheOtherSide wrote:
Well, here in the US the working class gets nickel and dimed even harder. In the US, we are getting screwed Ron Jeremy style, not just on food, but in just about every single aspect of the economy. As bad as it is in Korea, it's a step up from Amerika.

Korea would have to raise the food prices by about 40% more for it to even compare to the financial beating that is living in the US.


pure BS

no cheobols in the US.

There's Walmart. There is actual and real competition taking place, keeping prices down.

a vast online network of providing goods and services, not just one or two like in Korea.

over the past year, food prices in the US have gone up. 1.8 %
12% in Korea.

as to real wages of the "working class" and its purchasing power, I guess that would depend on how would define them in each country.

I would say that Korea's wealth distribution and earnings are probably more egalitarian that stateside.
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gakduki



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Conrad B Hart wrote:
Gas bills here shot up and remained high when oil prices dropped. It's a sad fact of Capitalist life that unless you're in the elite minority you get screwed.


Yeah, Capitalism is terrible. We get screwed by the Capitalists. What's better? Monarchy, Dictatorship, Communism? Work hard, study some finance and join in. I don't think we're getting screwed. Most of us here are living on the other side of the world, going out a few times a week, living in a decent appartment, saving money, taking vacations. How bad is it that you have to fork out a little more to live every year. Everytime you ask for a raise, there is inflation, everytime you think you are worth just a little more, there is inflation. Unions are one of the biggest cause's of inflation.
Upgrade your skills with other people, invest you money, and you won't be the one getting screwed. (this isn't directed at you in particular btw)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gakduki wrote:
Conrad B Hart wrote:
Gas bills here shot up and remained high when oil prices dropped. It's a sad fact of Capitalist life that unless you're in the elite minority you get screwed.


Yeah, Capitalism is terrible. We get screwed by the Capitalists. What's better? Monarchy, Dictatorship, Communism? Work hard, study some finance and join in. I don't think we're getting screwed. Most of us here are living on the other side of the world, going out a few times a week, living in a decent appartment, saving money, taking vacations. How bad is it that you have to fork out a little more to live every year. Everytime you ask for a raise, there is inflation, everytime you think you are worth just a little more, there is inflation. Unions are one of the biggest cause's of inflation.
Upgrade your skills with other people, invest you money, and you won't be the one getting screwed. (this isn't directed at you in particular btw)


So how many people do you think can fit into this top bracket where life is affordable? 10%? 20%?

Some of us aren't just thinking of ourselves. Maybe my family can afford to pay double for some food items and other rapidly inflating costs.....but how about all those who can't? What happens to them?

By your sink or swim philosophy we should just let them go further and further into poverty until 90% of the country live a squalid existence while 10% live like kings.

No thanks. That sounds like a total dystopia to me. But it's already happening. The gap between rich and poor is increasing in most of the worlds countries. The fragile stock market and banking system has failed once again.....

More consumer tax, progressive income tax, government price controls and welfare are badly needed in Korea. In every country.

You need to balance the money in a country in such a way that it's possible for a young married couple who want to start a family, who have decent jobs, to buy a home, afford to run a car, have medical insurance and put decent food in their cupboards. As well as save a bit or pay a pension.......

........that was possible in most developed countries until recently.......My parents were able to do all those things with 6 children! On my Dad's income alone!!

Now it's impossible unless your Dad has worked his way into the top 15% or so earners.

There's an imbalance these days. A dangerous imbalance.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epicurus wrote:
OnTheOtherSide wrote:
Well, here in the US the working class gets nickel and dimed even harder. In the US, we are getting screwed Ron Jeremy style, not just on food, but in just about every single aspect of the economy. As bad as it is in Korea, it's a step up from Amerika.

Korea would have to raise the food prices by about 40% more for it to even compare to the financial beating that is living in the US.


pure BS

no cheobols in the US.

There's Walmart. There is actual and real competition taking place, keeping prices down.

a vast online network of providing goods and services, not just one or two like in Korea.

over the past year, food prices in the US have gone up. 1.8 %
12% in Korea.

as to real wages of the "working class" and its purchasing power, I guess that would depend on how would define them in each country.

I would say that Korea's wealth distribution and earnings are probably more egalitarian that stateside.


Very true.

But in Korea, we get job security, good pay and most importantly free housing. So all things considered, the lifestyle in Korea allows for much much more savings and financial stability. If you look only at food inflation, then yes Korea is worse though.

Some foods in Korea are very cheap. You just gotta cook yourself and actually make food from scratch. Learn to love that raemyon too.
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