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missfroggy
Joined: 06 Aug 2009
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 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: is this possible????? |
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Hey guys,
i heard it is legal to teach at two places as long as the school that sponsors your contract gives permission. I wondered is this true and is there a limit to how many hours one can teach at the second job, ie if i have a holiday for one month and my school gives permission, is it legal to teach at another school during the vacation? |
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wakingup
Joined: 20 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:16 am Post subject: Re: is this possible????? |
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| missfroggy wrote: |
Hey guys,
i heard it is legal to teach at two places as long as the school that sponsors your contract gives permission. I wondered is this true and is there a limit to how many hours one can teach at the second job, ie if i have a holiday for one month and my school gives permission, is it legal to teach at another school during the vacation? |
Yes, but with that permission, you then need to get the second location put onto your visa, which takes time and paperwork. Make sure you have the paperwork, not just the permission. |
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missfroggy
Joined: 06 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| okay thanks, do you know what this paperwork is? would it mean both myself and my current employer having to go to the immigration office or could i just get my employer to sign a piece of paper? Thanks. |
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E_athlete
Joined: 09 Jun 2009
Location: Korea sparkling
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| Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:29 am Post subject: Make this post a sticky? |
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you have to get permission from your principal or employer. Once you have that you can get your supervisor to change up your contract to include extra work.
The basic rule is that if you work at a hagwon, you can only work at another Public school. If you already work at Public school you can only work at another Public school (this is probably be night school). You will need to get a revised contract from them.
Once you get permission from your employer you will also need permission from immigration.
The only problem is that your principle or employer will not always agree to it for whatever dumb reason they can come up with. Ultimately they decide whether you can work at another place legally. I honestly think that if you get permission from your employer you are pretty much home free. All the other things basically are easy to take care of.
call foreigner services at 1345 to confirm exactly what you need.
Immigration usually wants you to produce the following:
1)passport
2)alien card
3)new 'revised' contract enabling extra work
4)current school business registration copy
5)release letter
6)60000 won
7)new contract from your 2nd work place
Please feel free to call 1345 about the legality of a E2 visa holder doing extra work. Don't just take my word on it. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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| Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 6:47 am Post subject: Re: Make this post a sticky? |
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| E_athlete wrote: |
The basic rule is that if you work at a hagwon, you can only work at another Public school. |
^my emphasis
I've seen this posted on this board before, and it strikes me as wrong. Maybe it's a typo for 'private' school, maybe it's the confusion Brits bring to the public/private school interpretation?
Hagwon workers can work at other hagwons (private schools in the American sense). Zippy's first job was contracted to two different hagwons. They both must appear on your ARC (not visa) as per the above instructions. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Hagwon workers can work at other hagwons (private schools in the American sense) |
I don't look at hagwons as private schools in the American sense. I am someone who went to many camps at various schools during the summer, private and public. I eventually went to 1 of 3 main private schools in the area. These I would NEVER equate with a hagwon.
To me, a hagwon is like a cram school in the sense that it is supposed to have an accelerated curriculum. Of course, not all do this.
Last edited by lifeinkorea on Sun Aug 16, 2009 3:01 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Hagwon workers can work at other hagwons (private schools in the American sense) |
I don't look at hagwons as private schools in the American sense. I am someone who went to many camps at various schools during the summer, private and public. I eventually changed to 1 of 3 main private schools in the area. These I would NEVER equate with a hagwon.
To me, a hagwon is like a cram school in the sense that it is supposed to have an accelerated curriculum. Of course, not all do this. |
There's something called Sylvan in the states now.
http://tutoring.sylvanlearning.com/
When I explain hagwons now, I use this as an example. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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Yes, I am merely discussing semantics, on WHAT do you call it? Sylvan looks like an example.
Example of what? a) public school b) private school c) tutoring agency d) cram school
The difference is that in Asia, these hagwons are normal regardless of your performance in school. In the US, has it changed to this? I am used to students doing poorly before getting academic help. On the Sylvan's front page, it has "Get the Help Your Child Needs Now".
Students don't seem like they would be signing up to these places to further themselves as seen in Asia. |
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Carla
Joined: 21 Nov 2008
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| lifeinkorea wrote: |
Yes, I am merely discussing semantics, on WHAT do you call it. Sylvan looks like an example.
Example of what? a) public school b) private school c) tutoring agency d) cram school?
The difference is that in Asia, these hagwons are normal regardless of your performance in school. In the US, has it changed to this? I am used to students doing poorly before getting academic help. They weren't going to these places to further themselves as seen in Asia. |
Given those choices, I would have to say.... it depends.
If you are talking about subjects, I would go with tutoring agency. But, you also have piano hagwons, taekwondo hagwons, so it throws it out of wack based on our standards of classification.
Explaining to people who aren't here, I would say tutoring agency. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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Why not just call it a hagwon and be done with it?
OP, if you want to work a 2nd job, the 2nd job has to have fewer hours than the first and you need your boss to take you to immi with his paperwork, your contract for the 2nd job, and they should be able to OK it while you wait.
Call immigration for exact necessities. |
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