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Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea.
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject: Korean seeks advice: Avoiding trouble with foreign teachers! |
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A Korean friend of mine recently (against my advice!) decided to take up a job at a University where he will be the Academic Supervisor. He will have to "be in charge of" about 18 NSTs.
After hearing all my gripes over the years, he is understandably nervous!!
What advice could you give him to avoid conflict with teachers? Sensible suggestions please! Particularly those which are rooted in cultural difference. But of course, whatever hacks you off about how administrators treat you, ways that could be so easily changed, would be useful! |
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Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea.
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'll start the ball rolling. I think the first piece of advice I would give would be concerned with the relationship with the Head Instructor. Korean administrators often use these guys like essentially powerless confidants - a mere teacher's rep if you like.
Example: Hiring
I find that when Korean staff are in charge of recruitment, you get all kinds of weird fish that end up giving them all kinds of gip!
Often, a good Head Instructor can spot the weirdos a mile off and can screen out those who will be a problem.
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waynehead
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Abide their contracts, avoid any last minute changes as much as possible, and give ample notice for any sort of extracurricular activities or obligations. Provide guidance and make their responsibilities clear, and let them know as soon as you do if there are any problems. |
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D.D.
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Conflict is good. Open honest communication where different ideas can be shared. Show the westerners that some of their ideas are actually used. |
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Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea.
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed. I think another would be the issue of seniority. Don't mess around with the hard earned privileges of those teachers who have "paid their dues"
Teachers who have been working at the university for years and who have little privileges like having the same classroom for all their classes, getting first dibs on OT and other stuff - I think you shouldn't mess with that. It's asking for trouble to give newbies stuff like this at the expense of those who have put in the years!
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Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea.
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Don't hide behind those group emails when you've got something on your mind. Have a weekly or monthly meeting then be quiet and listen!
Also on the issue of contracts: Read the contract!! Make sure you know it very well!!! |
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Demophobe

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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hey....mm2...welcome back. |
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withnail

Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea.
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Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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Apologies if it seems I'm answering my own question here but I'm gonna keep adding stuff as it occurs to me to help this guy out but also to keep this thread bumped up sufficiently for others to notice it! My threads usually sink without a trace!!!!! |
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bassexpander
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:11 am Post subject: |
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withnail wrote: |
Don't hide behind those group emails when you've got something on your mind. Have a weekly or monthly meeting then be quiet and listen!
Also on the issue of contracts: Read the contract!! Make sure you know it very well!!! |
A weekly meeting? You really want those foreigners to hate this guy?
To me, a weekly meeting = mistrust and micro-management.
Meetings 3 times a semester are enough. |
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samcheokguy

Joined: 02 Nov 2008 Location: Samcheok G-do
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 1:42 am Post subject: |
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I love meetings. Free coffee, but no donuts. Where are my donuts? |
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ChopChaeJoe
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:00 am Post subject: |
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withnail wrote: |
I'll start the ball rolling. I think the first piece of advice I would give would be the relationship with the Head Instructor. Korean administrators often use these guys like essentially powerless confidants - a mere teacher's rep if you like.
Example: Hiring
I find that when Korean staff are in charge of recruitment, you get all kinds of weird fish that end up giving them all kinds of gip!
Often, a good Head Instructor can spot the weirdos a mile off and can screen out those who will be a problem. |
How is this, in any way, advice? |
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Manner of Speaking

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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:12 am Post subject: |
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This has been mentioned already, but if your friend is hiring a new native teacher, have a trusted native teacher friend scan over the resume. Oftentimes they can spot oddities that Koreans may miss. |
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withnail

Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul, South Korea.
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:27 am Post subject: |
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ChopChaeJoe wrote:
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How is this, in any way, advice? |
Oops. you are right, but you know what I mean....I mean let the Head Instructor do the hiring...
Pedantry on Dave's is still alive and well I see! Perhaps I made a few typos too? Get back to me...I'll be here all week...
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withnail

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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 2:35 am Post subject: |
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withnail wrote:
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Don't hide behind those group emails when you've got something on your mind. Have a weekly or monthly meeting then be quiet and listen!
Also on the issue of contracts: Read the contract!! Make sure you know it very well!!! |
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A weekly meeting? You really want those foreigners to hate this guy?
To me, a weekly meeting = mistrust and micro-management.
Meetings 3 times a semester are enough. |
So then, more or less a monthly one, eh Bass??
Bygones... |
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Illysook
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Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:05 am Post subject: |
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.Tell the truth, follow the golden rule, and if something goes wrong and you have to discuss it with your foreign teacher, stick to the problem at hand, do not exaggerate and do not throw in "the kitchen sink." If you do that, the foreign teacher will not know what needs to improve, nor how to improve it, but will instead become bitter and discouraged...exactly where I've been living for a good part of this past year. |
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