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OnTheOtherSide
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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 Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 12:57 am Post subject: |
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Let's face it. In todays society, lots of people have just totally let themselves go and let themselves become physically disgusting. They just eat comfort foods all the time indulgently. They never do hard excercise. They never walk or ride a bicycle long distance, or do physical work. They just let their bodies become useless things that do the bare minimum.
We are living in an era, for the first time, where the world is full of obese, malnourished people.
Yeah, it's rude to call people fat and all that.... but lets just face it.
I'm not talking about people who are chubby or 20 pounds overweight. iI'm talking about really big fat people. Over 90% of the time, they are doing it to themselves and it's not simply genetics, it's a lifestyle that I personally, could never live.
No offense to the thick people out there. I have nothing but love for you all. But a lot of you really do need a wake up call. You have let yourselves go into a mindset where being fat and unhealthy is normal and totally fine.
I've seen fat people go out and lose a lot of weight after someone told them they are fat. it was their wake up call. I see it as a good thing.
But if someone is just a little bit chubby, that's cool. No big deal. |
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Kurtz
Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:00 am Post subject: |
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The old "I'm fat because of genetics". I'd like to see the actual statistics on that one.
I used to work with a morbidly obese man. He used to blame his genetics for his appalling, out of bounds blubber.
When he quit, he brought in a huge box of cakes for everyone to eat. Only then did he admit to knowing every cake shop in a 10 km radius of his house.
After that experience I'm a bit wary of the genetics card being played.
Depression, bad eating habits and coach potato lifestyle might be attributed to being fat, or obese.
So many Koreans I hear of the middle aged variety keep saying "for my health" so I think that age group might discriminate against fatties. |
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OnTheOtherSide
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Just because I think being obese is disguisting doesn't mean I have no compassion for them.
I find it disgusting that they do nothing about it. |
"Fat" is a relative term. I also think that truely fat people are a bit disgusting. I'm talking about the obese who are about to have a heart attack. The people who have kankles, who eat similar to a powerlifter who is bulking up in the offseason, who never, ever excercise at all.
But "chubby" is different. Some people are just naturally chubby. Yet they still have solid muscle underneath the fat, and they can do physically active stuff. But they just have an endomorphic body type.
There is a difference.
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kantoi09
Joined: 02 May 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:07 am Post subject: |
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| Changwon Charlie wrote: |
Just because I think being obese is disguisting doesn't mean I have no compassion for them.
I find it disgusting that they do nothing about it. |
Well on that tone , I guess that I find many people's comment here disgusting, too. Also, I think that most people that are obese know they are obese. I don't mind people calling me fat or obese, but I do hate it when people say it such a malicious or derrogative way. Especially since losing weight in healthy way will take a long time. And I think these kind of comments lead people to have eating disorders like bulimia, anorexia, and even binge eating and poor relationship with food and their body. And trust me that most obese has tried so many damn diets in their lifetime. |
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OnTheOtherSide
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:13 am Post subject: |
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If you excercise really hard 5x a week and diet properly. The weight will steadily drop off no problem.
Most people try to leave the hard excercise out of the equation though. That's why they dont get the results. You gotta work out really hard and really often and really sweat your brains out on top of that diet. |
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Changwon Charlie
Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| kantoi09 wrote: |
Also, I think that most people that are obese know they are obese. I don't mind people calling me fat or obese, but I do hate it when people say it such a malicious or derrogative way.
Especially since losing weight in healthy way will take a long time. And I think these kind of comments lead people to have eating disorders like bulimia, anorexia, and even binge eating and poor relationship with food and their body. |
I think if people can see you are making the effort then you will get a lot of encouragement as well...I know I would to keep them motivated.
It takes a long time because it took a long time to get that way. There is no easy fix. You do the hard yards but int he long term you will feel so much better.
I let myself go about 20 years ago to about 100kgs but had enough and got into bike riding. Took about 2 years to get down to 70-80kgs but it felt great and I enjoyed seeing the difference. I suppose it is one of the reasons why I feel a bit strongly about it. There really is no excuse, just that people need a good kick up the backside to get started sometimes. |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 5:41 am Post subject: |
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It goes both ways. I've lost 32 kilos since coming to Korea ten and a half months ago. It's been absolutely nonstop from all of the teachers at school, to the point that my co-teacher is seriously annoyed with fielding and translating the comments they all make to her on a daily basis. I had to take one sick day the entire year because I got a really bad flu and was so dizzy that I couldn't walk to work, and when I went to check in with the principal the next day, he told my co-teacher to tell me that I need to eat more.
The students have just come back from summer vacation now and, having not seen me for a month and a half, it's been two days solid of, "Teacha! Slim!"
That having been said, when I first arrived and was heavier, there was only one time anyone at all said anything about my weight directly to my face. It was a younger student. He looked at me and, matter-of-factly stated: "Teacha. You are fat."
"Yeah? You are short."
Laughs all around and moving on.
I honestly don't think anyone means anything by it, other than just stating the situation as it stands.
The people in this thread, however, who are giving almost pornographic, detailed descriptions of rolls upon rolls of 'disgusting blubber' seem to have some kind psychological, obsessive hangup. Best to be avoided, IMO. |
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 6:22 am Post subject: |
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| I'm no Picasso wrote: |
The people in this thread, however, who are giving almost pornographic, detailed descriptions of rolls upon rolls of 'disgusting blubber' seem to have some kind psychological, obsessive hangup. Best to be avoided, IMO. |
Nonsense.
This is called "keeping it real".
what really is best to be avoided however, are the gym provided uniforms/tops these girls/women wear. Clearly they were not designed for that kind of ummm.. "size". I don't know what the solution is, since potato sacks are probably too thick and bed sheets unwieldy. An athletic burka perhaps?
since K-gals aren't busty, their bust in these tops essentially looks like a roll, so what you get is a set of rolls from the waistline to the bustline, which serves as merely another roll.
you make of the visual imagery what you will.
For me, not only is it a surefire cure for priapism (a condition with which I have thankfully not had to deal with, but if it ever comes up, I have this solution handy)
also a damn good appetite suppressant just before dinner. |
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glimmer
Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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I'm overweight and was baffled when two slim male Korean colleagues complained that they were fat and wanted to start on diet pills. When I mentioned this to a slim female Korean teacher she said "Oh, all Koreans think they're fat." I said jokingly "So, are you fat then?" Her reply: "Yes."
Later on, one of the slim male Korean teachers was talking to me about two of his slim male students. At one point during the conversation I had to ask which of the two he was referring to. His reply: "I'm talking about the fat student."
Fortunately they never told me what they thought of my genuine weight problem but I can make a good guess.  |
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mongolian spot
Joined: 15 Sep 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Fat people should be made to use seperate toilets and seperate water fountains.
Hell, why should fat people vote, lets take that away.
Fat people are subhuman and should be sent back to Fatrica on the banana cake boats they came in on.
Hell, if we carry on like this one day there could be a fat president, imagine that! |
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thoreau
Joined: 21 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Kurtz wrote: |
| The old "I'm fat because of genetics". I'd like to see the actual statistics on that one. |
http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/256/1/51
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Height, weight, and body mass index (BMI) were assessed in a sample of 1974 monozygotic and 2097 dizygotic male twin pairs. Concordance rates for different degrees of overweight were twice as high for monozygotic twins as for dizygotic twins. Classic twin methods estimated a high heritability for height, weight, and BMI, both at age 20 years (.80.78, and.77, respectively) and at a 25-year follow-up (.80.81, and.84, respectively). Height, weight, and BMI were highly correlated across time, and a path analysis suggested that the major part of that covariation was genetic. These results are similar to those of other twin studies of these measures and suggest that human fatness is under substantial genetic control. |
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