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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP
Joined: 28 May 2009 Location: Electron cloud
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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OnTheOtherSide wrote: |
eIn07912 wrote: |
Yeah OTOS, some chicks are into the meat head look. Just like some like guys with bellies. It's true. Some like to hug soft flab in the middle because they say it's comfortable and makes them feel safe.
But with both groups, those that like that are far out numbered by girls that just like a guy thats fit. Toned muscle sure, deltoids bulging through his sleeve, no. Muscular or athletic, of course. So big it's obvious he's gonna spend more time at the gym looking at himself in the mirror than focus on her and tell her how pretty she is and how lucky he is to have her, no. Remember, girls from any culture, love to be showered with attention. If it looks like you're gonna be giving all you're attention to yourself, she may take a pass.
Same for the fatties. Some girls like that a guy is less concerned with his outward appearance. Perhaps that means he choose to expand his mind rather than his muscle. Or that he considers the time he spends with her more valuable than hours upon hours with a bunch of sweaty guys in a small room. Of course, it works to an extent. If it looks like he doesn't care at all about how he looks, the maybe he doesn't have enough self respect to not look like a homeless whale. If he's always pointing out how stupid it is for guys to bulk up that much, maybe he's just really insecure about how he looks and how frustrated he is that he's never had the will power of discipline to commit himself to a goal like getting fit, that can be really difficult.
So, the key is to find something in the middle. I try to opt for the Men's Health / fitness model look. Not the Muscle and Fitness / roid head. And not the World of Warcraft / I lived with my mom till I was 27 look either. |
Myself, I like to have lean muscle and make my body look aesthetically pleasing and ripped, instead of being huge. My body is naturally thin anyway, so I go for the natural look. I'm more into yoga and bicycling than bodybuilding these days.
But i've seen it all over. Big huge guys with huge muscles get laid left and right. And the other guys always get jealous and hate on these guys, and say "Oh that guy looks ugly. He is all steroids. Se is too big." But these comments are all fueled by jealousy.
Most guys wish they could look like that. But are too lazy, don't have the genetics, or they dont want to take risks with steroids. But deep down they want to look like that.
I'll admit it. I would take that look if I could. But I don't want to take the steroids at this point in my life. And with natural bodybuilding, I just get more of a Calvin Klein body kind of body.
But still those guys look badass in my opinion. |
You need to wise up and realise most of the chemistry for woman is a guy's character.
Women find it funny to see a guy walking around town or a bar looking at himself, posing and trying to catch women's attention with his looks.
Sure, it helps if you're not the Elephant Man of course, but it's your general demeanour and attitude imo that women like.
Don't waste your time 'getting ripped' only to start hitting bars and clubs and find the same problems netting girls and then get all dissapointed.
Being slim is definately a huge help (some people say staying slim is the best thing one can do for their s*x life...), but being 'pumped' and all that crap is not really that important.
Spend more time hangng out socially with women, trying to chat up women you've never met before and get used to interacting with them. And have the balls to 'take' her, and you know, go for the kill  |
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Fermentator75
Joined: 27 Jul 2009
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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oreovictim... it is a sad occurrence in the USA that has been going on for 5 years or so. Popped collars are popular with tools in their early twenties... usually polo shirt victims. 80's throwback style... blame it on Abercrappy and Bitch... and Amqueerican Eagle clothing. The interior states of the nation where douchebags sport these horrible clothes... I imagine that Itaewon is flowing with these types in the form of off duty soldiers? |
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Epicurus
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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such a dork dressed in polo shirt with popped collar to me is equivalent to wearing a sign on your head saying:
Kick my ass.... please |
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP
Joined: 28 May 2009 Location: Electron cloud
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Fermentator75 wrote: |
oreovictim... it is a sad occurrence in the USA that has been going on for 5 years or so. Popped collars are popular with tools in their early twenties... usually polo shirt victims. 80's throwback style... blame it on Abercrappy and Bitch... and Amqueerican Eagle clothing. The interior states of the nation where douchebags sport these horrible clothes... I imagine that Itaewon is flowing with these types in the form of off duty soldiers? |
But don't you really think that if you're in the right place, right time and meet someone you liek the look of and she you and you have some thing in common and get on well, that's all it takes...?
I don't think wearing a certain type of shirt really is what it takes.
There has to be a personality inside that shirt...
Moaning about girls liking other guys because of their shirts sounds more like somebody don't know how to work it with women and don't want to admit it.... |
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OnTheOtherSide

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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redaxe wrote: |
OnTheOtherSide wrote: |
Myself, I like to have lean muscle and make my body look aesthetically pleasing and ripped, instead of being huge. My body is naturally thin anyway, so I go for the natural look. I'm more into yoga and bicycling than bodybuilding these days.
But i've seen it all over. Big huge guys with huge muscles get laid left and right. And the other guys always get jealous and hate on these guys, and say "Oh that guy looks ugly. He is all steroids. Se is too big." But these comments are all fueled by jealousy.
Most guys wish they could look like that. But are too lazy, don't have the genetics, or they dont want to take risks with steroids. But deep down they want to look like that.
I'll admit it. I would take that look if I could. But I don't want to take the steroids at this point in my life. And with natural bodybuilding, I just get more of a Calvin Klein body kind of body.
But still those guys look badass in my opinion. |
Man, why you always on here all talking about muscles and steroids? Who you trying to impress? |
I'm trying to impress you so that you will go to a love motel with me for man to man love. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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As a Korean female friend said recently...
"Oh, you're going to have a baby? Congratulations! Now you are really off the market!"
(I've been married for over 1 1/2 years).
Scary how some people think around here. |
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP
Joined: 28 May 2009 Location: Electron cloud
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
As a Korean female friend said recently...
"Oh, you're going to have a baby? Congratulations! Now you are really off the market!"
(I've been married for over 1 1/2 years).
Scary how some people think around here. |
She really thought that until you hve a child, you're still on the market...? Even though you're married...? |
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The evil penguin

Joined: 24 May 2003 Location: Doing something naughty near you.....
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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benji wrote: |
Women in their forties can still date? Arent there "moistness" issues? |
Nah, it's not really age-related. It just means that your 30 minutes of pleading and begging and grovelling for some action doesn't excite them as much as the younger ladies... |
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OnTheOtherSide

Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP wrote: |
OnTheOtherSide wrote: |
eIn07912 wrote: |
Yeah OTOS, some chicks are into the meat head look. Just like some like guys with bellies. It's true. Some like to hug soft flab in the middle because they say it's comfortable and makes them feel safe.
But with both groups, those that like that are far out numbered by girls that just like a guy thats fit. Toned muscle sure, deltoids bulging through his sleeve, no. Muscular or athletic, of course. So big it's obvious he's gonna spend more time at the gym looking at himself in the mirror than focus on her and tell her how pretty she is and how lucky he is to have her, no. Remember, girls from any culture, love to be showered with attention. If it looks like you're gonna be giving all you're attention to yourself, she may take a pass.
Same for the fatties. Some girls like that a guy is less concerned with his outward appearance. Perhaps that means he choose to expand his mind rather than his muscle. Or that he considers the time he spends with her more valuable than hours upon hours with a bunch of sweaty guys in a small room. Of course, it works to an extent. If it looks like he doesn't care at all about how he looks, the maybe he doesn't have enough self respect to not look like a homeless whale. If he's always pointing out how stupid it is for guys to bulk up that much, maybe he's just really insecure about how he looks and how frustrated he is that he's never had the will power of discipline to commit himself to a goal like getting fit, that can be really difficult.
So, the key is to find something in the middle. I try to opt for the Men's Health / fitness model look. Not the Muscle and Fitness / roid head. And not the World of Warcraft / I lived with my mom till I was 27 look either. |
Myself, I like to have lean muscle and make my body look aesthetically pleasing and ripped, instead of being huge. My body is naturally thin anyway, so I go for the natural look. I'm more into yoga and bicycling than bodybuilding these days.
But i've seen it all over. Big huge guys with huge muscles get laid left and right. And the other guys always get jealous and hate on these guys, and say "Oh that guy looks ugly. He is all steroids. Se is too big." But these comments are all fueled by jealousy.
Most guys wish they could look like that. But are too lazy, don't have the genetics, or they dont want to take risks with steroids. But deep down they want to look like that.
I'll admit it. I would take that look if I could. But I don't want to take the steroids at this point in my life. And with natural bodybuilding, I just get more of a Calvin Klein body kind of body.
But still those guys look badass in my opinion. |
You need to wise up and realise most of the chemistry for woman is a guy's character.
Women find it funny to see a guy walking around town or a bar looking at himself, posing and trying to catch women's attention with his looks.
Sure, it helps if you're not the Elephant Man of course, but it's your general demeanour and attitude imo that women like.
Don't waste your time 'getting ripped' only to start hitting bars and clubs and find the same problems netting girls and then get all dissapointed.
Being slim is definately a huge help (some people say staying slim is the best thing one can do for their s*x life...), but being 'pumped' and all that crap is not really that important.
Spend more time hangng out socially with women, trying to chat up women you've never met before and get used to interacting with them. And have the balls to 'take' her, and you know, go for the kill  |
I think women like 3 things in guys.
1. Rich guys
2. Guys with good looks and a good body
3. Guys with a great personality and intelligence
I'm not rich, and i'm sick of running on the hamster wheel trying to get rich, so i'm going for the other 2.
Excercising is a hobby of mine lately and I mostly do it to feel good, and as something I can focus on and work on like a work of art, but i'm not some musclehead douchebag at all.
Yet at the same time, I see that musclehead douchbags have incredible dating success. It's just the truth. I think that guys who deny this are either jealous or just have not seen it yet.
The next time you meet a musclehead freak, ask him if if helps him get laid. It will confirm my point. Better yet, go out with him and hang out, and watch the kind of attention women give him. To many women Muscular men = sex objects.
I could tell you some specific stories about this. Like my bodybuilder friend who has rich, professional older women giving him thousands of dollars every month to be their sex toy. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
I know a whole swack of single attractive k-girls in their 30s.
But they have very high standards. |
That's right. Everyone does not look like crap from 30 onwards, and not everyone is fat and looks like a hag from 30 onwards.
Many people in their 20s look bad, but so many people say you are done at 30 looks wise...Yeah right. I know some pretty people aged 30 and beyond, too. |
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DWAEJIMORIGUKBAP
Joined: 28 May 2009 Location: Electron cloud
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yet at the same time, I see that musclehead douchbags have incredible dating success. It's just the truth. I think that guys who deny this are either jealous or just have not seen it yet.
The next time you meet a musclehead freak, ask him if if helps him get laid. It will confirm my point. Better yet, go out with him and hang out, and watch the kind of attention women give him. To many women Muscular men = sex objects. |
1. I'm neither denying it nor jealous. I'm saying you don't have to be a musclehead, I know people just as successful who are skinny as hell.
2. If he were a musclebound freak but not confident, he wouldn't get the same results. It's the confidence in his look / demeanour that help him. I and I'm sure everyone has known a good looking really built guy who is shy and can't get laid.
So the main point is if you're interesting and confident and know how to talk to women, you'll be succesful if you're pumped or not lol. What you're doing is focussing on only one cross section of society and thinking it's the be all and end all of beingg succesfull with women.
Why bother getting pumped if you can't interact succesfuly with girls? I'd rather save the aches, pains and hours in the gym and just go out and start chatting up girls... |
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I'm no Picasso
Joined: 28 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
As a Korean female friend said recently...
"Oh, you're going to have a baby? Congratulations! Now you are really off the market!"
(I've been married for over 1 1/2 years).
Scary how some people think around here. |
Strange. I got the same thing in reverse the other day from a male Korean friend. I was gushing about a married PE teacher at work and he said, "Does he have a son or a daughter?"
"Yes. One of each."
"Oh. Better forget about him then."
As if the married part just didn't count on its own....... |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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DCJames wrote: |
xingyiman wrote: |
earthbound14 wrote: |
In my experience it's all about attitude. If you got it, it doesn't matter how old you are, you'll find a cool girl (woman, middle aged woman, senior...we all gotta date if life makes us single). If you don't, the older you get the slimmer the pickins.
So to be a total cheesedick...turn that frown upside down.
Of course being in your thirties and forties does mean you have a smaller pool to swim in, but that goes both ways. It's not like when you were in your twenties and everyone was bouncing from girl to girl (boy to boy) just looking around for the right thing. Lots of people have settled down so you have to be prepared to meet women in different ways and be more outgoing. If you believe you are one of the good ones still lookin, then you should take the time to find an equal match. She will be out there. With so many people on the planet it's almost impossible for her not to be out there.
I met my wife while in my thirties...and to be honest, I was ready to keep on walkin. I have no need to be married, but I figured I just couldn't let such a good thing pass by.
When it's right, it's right. |
I think it also depends on where exactly you are with respect to the west of course. I am from the midwest and I can tell you that dating across the decades only occurs when there is a large sum of cash at stake.
The good women (young looking, hot bodies) are all married by the time they reach 30. If you see a woman who's in her 30's, good looking and single she's divorced and most assuredly has a steady boyfriend who wouldn't give her up for the gold in Fort Knox. For some reason midwestern gals look pretty decent up to the age of 25. Then they slowly begin to go downhill. It usually starts with changing facial features, (sagging eyes and a few wrinkles) then the hips start to widen, after 30 the breasts drop about 6 inches and their thighs could grind fine flour. A friend of mine who lives in Atlanta says there's lots of hot women in their 30's who are single, unattatched, and still look pretty darn hot so go figure. |
and your brain is getting smaller right?  |
I really tried to figure out what you meant but still no luck. If it was an attempt at humor at my expense then you're a really crappy comedian.
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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princess wrote: |
Captain Corea wrote: |
I know a whole swack of single attractive k-girls in their 30s.
But they have very high standards. |
That's right. Everyone does not look like crap from 30 onwards, and not everyone is fat and looks like a hag from 30 onwards.
Many people in their 20s look bad, but so many people say you are done at 30 looks wise...Yeah right. I know some pretty people aged 30 and beyond, too. |
Thank you for stating the obvious once again princess. What we are saying is that people who are single and in their 30's generally fall into distinct categories. Back in myneck of the woods the 30ish gals who are good looking are taken , end, done, no chance buster. If they are available then they are generally fat, slobbish, ugly, etc...... hence we aren't interested.
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Dharma_Blue

Joined: 11 Oct 2008
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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OnTheOtherSide wrote: |
Yet at the same time, I see that musclehead douchbags have incredible dating success |
Who gives a shit?? A lot of them look like freaks anyway.
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It's just the truth. I think that guys who deny this are either jealous or just have not seen it yet |
Nope.
Instead of getting jealous (i.e, feeling insecure), I usually go out of my way to avoid "dudes" who feel the need to brag about their sexual conquests to other "dudes" at any given time. |
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