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marlow
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 Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:01 pm Post subject: Giving Notice |
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OK, my friend has to go back to Canada, and he wants to quit his job. He feels really bad about doing it, but he has no choice. Anyway, he really likes his job and work environment, but TOTALLY can't trust the administration.
So, he wants to give notice, 30 days, but doesn't trust the fallout. It's a public school, but they are really prone to back stab and [swear filter is in effect] do really bad things.
He doesn't want to leave immediately. He wants to leave in 30 days. He could pull a runner in 30 days of course, but that's the moral low ground. What can the school do if he gives notice? Can they fire him immediately? Or even if he gives notice do they have to give him equal notice to fire him? |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| He could give a 31 day notice, if they don't like it, then just finish the month and then do the runner. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| lifeinkorea wrote: |
| He could give a 31 day notice, if they don't like it, then just finish the month and then do the runner. |
What I really want to know is that if he were to give his notice today, could they say, well, since you want to quit, we'll just fire you today? He doesn't want to be on the street today. He needs a job for the next month, but he needs to leave after that. If his choices are get abused by giving notice or pull a runner, he'll pull a runner. But, he doesn't want to do that to his students and co-workers. |
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Clockout
Joined: 23 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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If he suspects they will backstab him them he probably has good reason to feel that way from past experiences.
Until we can trust labor laws to give us reasonable protection then I don't think he owes them anything.
Just pull a runner on payday. |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Clockout wrote: |
| Until we can trust labor laws to give us reasonable protection then I don't think he owes them anything. |
I'm trying to figure out if labour law has anything about this. I read it, and it seems to protect him without ever saying anything about this situation exactly.
http://www.molab.go.kr/english/data/LaborStandardsAct.pdf |
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climber159
Joined: 02 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Clockout wrote: |
Until we can trust labor laws to give us reasonable protection then I don't think he owes them anything.
Just pull a runner on payday. |
My opinion as well. But pay your bills and clean your apartment. |
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oldtactics
Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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| If he gives notice the proper way and tells his coordinator/provincial office, then he should be golden. Even if he doesn't trust his administration, there's a pretty low chance that a public school will fire someone for no reason. I'm sure the work environment will be tense, but his contract should be upheld until he leaves. |
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lifeinkorea
Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| could they say, well, since you want to quit, we'll just fire you today? |
That's why you don't come straight out and say you are leaving. You just tell them you "would like to". Get their reaction and do it little by little, like boiling a frog. LOL, I did this last year. I moved all my stuff into a goshiwon and didn't go into work the next day. So, they couldn't go to the apartment, I simply wasn't there.
Of course they were upset, but I was now a flight risk to them, so they wanted to get rid of me. However, they needed me until they got a replacement. They said "I need 2 weeks to find another teacher". So, usually you give a 1 month notice, 2 were in my contract. I told them if they could get another teacher in 2 weeks, I would just walk away, they wouldn't have to pay me for those 2 weeks. I didn't want to hang around for this 60 day thing to run out and I already had another school lined up.
They jumped on that offer, and I was out after a month (they didn't pay me for the other 2 weeks, out 1.2 million won, oh well). However, I simply didn't prepare for lessons, I did the bare minimum. In return, I got a break in between schools (which might have cost me a flight in and out of the country, so 1.2 wasn't really much of a loss). I also badmouthed the school I left and told students how I really felt. The last month can actually be quite fun  |
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Skippy
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Actually LifeinKorea makes a good point! Test the waters first. I have a friend who is in a similar situation. He is going back home to go to school. He want to come back to Korea in the future. I gave him the advice of both running or doing the honorable of giving notice. He did the honorable and he is getting shafted almost working one month free to cover recruiters fee and airplane ticket.
So you are at a hagwon - I would run, get paid and go! Public school I think has more of a bureaucracy so you can generally tell them and they will follow the system/rules (usually!). True there will be hurt feeling that can threaten to explode and make departure bad.
Also check your gut if you think they will be petty and blow up at him going away - run! Otherwise do the honorable. But like lifeinkorea says test the water first!
Hey boss my father is getting remarried I wondering can I get two weeks to go to the wedding!? |
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romano812
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