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poeticjustice
Joined: 28 Feb 2009
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 Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: How much easier are our jobs compared with our co-workers? |
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I keep hearing this line of reasoning.
My co-teachers ask me how many classes I teach a week (16-20 depending if there are teacher's classes), how much money I make (2.3), my start-finish times (8-4), etc. and they always end their query with "wow! You're so lucky!"
I basically get the impression that they think my job is easier than the guy who wears a pointer vest and urges children to cross the street safely.
It got me thinking, are our jobs really that much easier than theirs?
-We have to teach every class, not just a grouping of 4-5.
-We have to deal with a different culture and language.
-Our students don't really understand us when we speak most of the time.
-There are no standards or requirements for our students outside of the ones we make for them in-class, which makes them behave a lot worse than they would be in a normal class.
On the flip side, Koreans have longer hours, more paperwork, higher expectations and more oversight.
So I do agree that their jobs are harder than ours, but I don't think they are substantially harder. Especially the third year teachers that just get paid to administer/grade tests.
What do you think? |
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asmith
Joined: 18 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: How much easier are our jobs compared with our co-worker |
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| poeticjustice wrote: |
I keep hearing this line of reasoning.
My co-teachers ask me how many classes I teach a week (16-20 depending if there are teacher's classes), how much money I make (2.3), my start-finish times (8-4), etc. and they always end their query with "wow! You're so lucky!"
I basically get the impression that they think my job is easier than the guy who wears a pointer vest and urges children to cross the street safely.
It got me thinking, are our jobs really that much easier than theirs?
-We have to teach every class, not just a grouping of 4-5.
-We have to deal with a different culture and language.
-Our students don't really understand us when we speak most of the time.
-There are no standards or requirements for our students outside of the ones we make for them in-class, which makes them behave a lot worse than they would be in a normal class.
On the flip side, Koreans have longer hours, more paperwork, higher expectations and more oversight.
So I do agree that their jobs are harder than ours, but I don't think they are substantially harder. Especially the third year teachers that just get paid to administer/grade tests.
What do you think? |
Their jobs are a million times harder. My co-teacher hardly ever gets a break. |
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poeticjustice
Joined: 28 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: How much easier are our jobs compared with our co-worker |
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| asmith wrote: |
| poeticjustice wrote: |
I keep hearing this line of reasoning.
My co-teachers ask me how many classes I teach a week (16-20 depending if there are teacher's classes), how much money I make (2.3), my start-finish times (8-4), etc. and they always end their query with "wow! You're so lucky!"
I basically get the impression that they think my job is easier than the guy who wears a pointer vest and urges children to cross the street safely.
It got me thinking, are our jobs really that much easier than theirs?
-We have to teach every class, not just a grouping of 4-5.
-We have to deal with a different culture and language.
-Our students don't really understand us when we speak most of the time.
-There are no standards or requirements for our students outside of the ones we make for them in-class, which makes them behave a lot worse than they would be in a normal class.
On the flip side, Koreans have longer hours, more paperwork, higher expectations and more oversight.
So I do agree that their jobs are harder than ours, but I don't think they are substantially harder. Especially the third year teachers that just get paid to administer/grade tests.
What do you think? |
Their jobs are a million times harder. My co-teacher hardly ever gets a break. |
Yeah, that's another thing. They get a total of 2-3 weeks of vacation per year whereas we get a couple months.
...and homeroom teachers don't even know what their own apartment looks like. |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| The worst thing is putting up with the useless advice and poor, back stabbing, communication styles of Korean co-teachers. |
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asams
Joined: 17 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject: Re: How much easier are our jobs compared with our co-worker |
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| Yeah, that's another thing. They get a total of 2-3 weeks of vacation per year whereas we get a couple months. |
At my hagwon the Korean teachers got 2 days off this year - that just happened to be when the hagwon was closed |
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Draz
Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: How much easier are our jobs compared with our co-worker |
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| poeticjustice wrote: |
Yeah, that's another thing. They get a total of 2-3 weeks of vacation per year whereas we get a couple months. |
LOL. Where do you work? It's getting more and more unusual to get a couple months of vacation... probably because of coteachers complaining that it isn't fair. |
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runthegauntlet
Joined: 02 Dec 2007
Location: the southlands.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| In the two hagwons I've been in, my job isn't much easier than theirs. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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A Korean woman I know worked at kimbab paradise. She got paid 1.5 as a waitress and 2.0 as a cook. Work was 10 hrs a day though.
We aren't paid a lot. Just a decent sum for how long we work.
I saw the salary sheet at my univ by accident when the business office lady showed me my pay. Most profs here clear 4.5 to 6.5. Some in admin get paid 10 million a month, but not many. |
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