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blade
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 Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:40 pm Post subject: US girl abducted 18 years ago found |
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US girl abducted 18 years ago found
A woman who was kidnapped in 1991 at the age of 11 has turned up at a California police station, authorities said, and a couple accused of abducting her has reportedly been arrested.
"1991 kidnap victim Jaycee Dugard has been located in good health in the greater Bay Area of California," an El Dorado County Sheriff's spokesman said in a brief written statement.
Few other details were immediately released but the San Francisco Chronicle newspaper reported on its website that Ms Dugard, now 29, was identified after she walked into a police station with the married couple accused of abducting her.
The paper, citing police sources, said Phillip Craig Garrido (5 and Nancy Garrido (55) came into the Concord station with Ms Dugard to ask a question and were detained after arousing the suspicion of an officer.
Phillip Garrido, a registered sex offender with a prior conviction for rape, was being held on suspicion of kidnapping, rape, lewd and lascivious acts with a minor, sexual penetration and kidnapping, the Chronicle reported.
Nancy Garrido was arrested on suspicion of conspiracy and kidnapping, the paper said.
Ms Dugard was walking to a bus stop near her home when the gray sedan pulled up next to her and she was yanked inside.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2009/0827/breaking61.htm
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From Bill Lindelof
Jaycee Lee Dugard, an 11-year-old girl abducted from her South Lake Tahoe home in 1991, has been found alive in the Bay Area and two people reportedly have been detained in connection with the case.
The El Dorado County Sheriff's Office this morning confirmed the identity of the 29-year-old woman who walked into a Bay Area police station claiming to be Dugard.
Further, in an extraordinary sequence of events today, federal and local law agencies renewed their focus on the 18-year-old mystery surrounding what happened to the blond, blue-eyed girl who was abducted while walking to school June 10, 1991.
Reports out of the Bay Area indicated a man and a woman were in custody in Martinez and that a search warrant was being executed at a home in Antioch.
El Dorado County sheriff's officials were preparing to release details on the case at a 3 p.m. press conference, but the girl's stepfather confirmed to The Bee early today that Jaycee had resurfaced and was being reunited with her mother today.
Carl Probyn, Jaycee's stepfather, said his wife and daughter were flying to Northern California to meet Dugard and that his wife, Terry, spoke with the young woman by phone Wednesday night.
The Probyns, who are separated, live in Southern California, Carl in Orange County and Terry in Riverside. Terry Probyn and their daughter, Shayna, 19, boarded a 6 a.m. flight to the Bay Area to meet with Dugard, Carl Probyn said.
Probyn said he is elated.
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/crime/archives/2009/08/el-dorado-sheri.html |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Well...its a relief she is alive and well.
Sad for all she has had to endure. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| going to be hard to go 'back home'. Wonder if she'll even remember her real parents. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 2:19 am Post subject: |
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| It was the acid, man! |
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Konglishman
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
Location: Nanjing
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
| It was the acid, man! |
I cannot help but find stupid wisecracks over such a tragic story, to be incredibly crass. |
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Kikomom
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: them thar hills--Penna, USA--Zippy is my kid, the teacher in ROK. You can call me Kiko
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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"We must treat the poor prisoners, victimzed by the evil state, humanely!" strikes again...
One reason we have prisons, and the death penalty, is to ban these monsters from civil society, where they obviously do not belong and cannot be trusted. I would love to read the parole procedings.
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| ...They allegedly kept her in isolation in their backyard without detection, despite the fact that Garrido is on lifetime parole for kidnapping and rape and subject to home visits by a state parole agent. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Konglishman wrote: |
| djsmnc wrote: |
| It was the acid, man! |
I cannot help but find stupid wisecracks over such a tragic story, to be incredibly crass. |
I can't either, but someone who read the article that said the lawyer used the offender's LSD use as a defense in the previous case might recognize the depravity that the sarcastic comment highlights. |
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ManintheMiddle
Joined: 20 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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And this update:
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Questions arise over how kidnapper went undetectedBy TERRY COLLINS and BROOKE DONALD
ANTIOCH, Calif. � His neighbors knew he was a registered sex offender. Kids on his block called him "Creepy Phil" and kept their distance. Parole agents and local law enforcement regularly visited his home and found nothing unusual, even after a neighbor complained children were living in a complex of tents in his backyard.
For 18 years, Phillip Garrido managed to elude detection as he pulled off what authorities are calling an unfathomable crime, kidnapping and raping 11-year-old Jaycee Dugard, keeping her as his secret captive for nearly two decades and fathering two of her children.
The question about how he went unnoticed became more pressing Friday when Garrido came under suspicion in the unsolved murders of several prostitutes, raising the prospect he was a serial killer as well. Several of the murdered women's bodies � the exact number is not known � were dumped near an industrial park where Garrido worked during the 1990s.
Authorities acknowledged that they blew a chance three years ago to rescue Dugard from the backyard labyrinth of sheds, tents and outbuildings that were concealed from the outside world.
A neighbor called 911 in November 2006 and described Garrido as a psychotic sex addict who was living with children and had people staying in tents in his backyard.
The investigating officer spent a half-hour interviewing Garrido on his front porch but did not enter the house or search the backyard, Contra Costa County Sheriff Warren E. Rupf said. The deputy, who did not know Garrido was a registered sex offender even though the sheriff's department had the information, warned Garrido that the tents could be a code violation before leaving.
"We missed an opportunity to bring earlier closure to this situation," Rupf acknowledged. "I cannot change the course of events but we are beating ourselves up over this and continue to do so."
"We should have been more inquisitive, more curious and turned over a rock or two."
It was not the only missed opportunity.
As a parolee, Garrido wore a GPS-linked ankle bracelet that tracked his every movement, met with his parole agent several times each month and was subject to routine surprise home visits and random drug and alcohol tests, California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation spokesman Gordon Hinkle said.
The last unannounced visit by a team of local police agencies was conducted in July 2008. Paramedics also were summoned to the house five times since 1999, presumably to help Garrido's 88-year-old mother, who had dementia.
"There was never any indication to my knowledge that there was any sign of children living there," Hinkle said.
As it turns out, Dugard and her two children were living there as prisoners, authorities say. The heavily wooded compound was arranged so that people could not view what was happening, and one of the buildings was sound-proofed and could only be opened from the outside.
Neighbors knew there were children living there. Damon Robinson has lived next door to the Garridos for more than three years and his then-girlfriend in 2006 told him she saw tents in the backyard and children.
"I told her to call police. I told her to call right away," he said.
Dugard, now 29, was reunited with her family and said to be in good health, but feeling guilty about developing a bond with Garrido over the years. Her two children, 11 and 15, remained with her.
"Jaycee has strong feelings with this guy. She really feels it's almost like a marriage," said Dugard's stepfather Carl Probyn, who was there when little Jaycee was snatched from a bus stop in 1991.
Probyn has been in constant contact with Dugard's mother, his ex-wife Terry Probyn, since she found out her daughter was alive on Wednesday.
Probyn said both mother and daughter are trying to avoid the public eye for now. After not seeing each other for 18 years, Dugard greeted her mother by saying, "Hi, mom, I have babies," according to Probyn. Dugard had her two daughters with her at the reunion, and it appears she never told them she was kidnapped by their father, he said.
The authorities say they do not yet know whether she ever tried to escape or to alert anyone of her whereabouts, but she had chances to escape Garrido, who did a stint behind bars during the period of captivity.
Garrido and his wife pleaded not guilty Friday to a total of 29 counts, including forcible abduction, rape and false imprisonment. Phillip Garrido appeared stoic and unresponsive during the brief arraignment hearing. His wife cried and put her head in her hands several times.
Garrido gave a rambling, sometimes incoherent phone interview to KCRA-TV from the county jail Thursday in which he said he had not admitted to a kidnapping and that he had turned his life around since the birth of his first daughter 15 years ago. He told the television station that he walked into the FBI's San Francisco office on Monday with Dugard's daughters and dropped off several documents containing rambling passages about religion, sexual compulsion and mind control.
FBI spokesman Joseph Schadler confirmed Garrido left the documents with the agency, but declined to discuss any further details.
Garrido was required to register as a sex offender because he was convicted in 1977 of kidnapping a 25-year-old woman from parking lot in South Lake Tahoe, the same town Jaycee Dugard lived in when she was snatched from a school bus stop.
In the case Garrido took the woman across the state line into Nevada, where he raped her in a mini-warehouse in Reno that had been furnished with rugs, pornographic magazines and sex toys, according to prosecutors and news accounts from the time.
Gail Powell, spokeswoman for the Nevada Department of Public Safety, said Garrido met his wife while he was serving time for the rape at the federal penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan.
He served about 10 years of a 50-year federal sentence for kidnapping, and less than a year for a concurrent Nevada sentence of five years to life in prison for sexual assault. He was paroled in 1988, said Nevada Department of Corrections spokeswoman Suzanne Pardee.
A violation of Garrido's parole conditions sent him back to federal prison from April to August of 1993. Dick Carelli, spokesman for the federal Office of Court Administration, did not know what Garrido did to violate parole. Authorities are trying to piece together how and by whom Dugard was held during Garrido's four-month absence.
Hinkle said the alarm raised by the neighbor who contacted the sheriff's department never were relayed to Garrido's parole agent. But there was no ban on him having contact with children, nor restrictions on his travels.
Hinkle said Garrido's parole agent was shocked Tuesday when University of California, Berkeley, police told him that the man he had been monitoring for years had been seen with two small children.
The agent, whom officials refused to name or make available for interviews, called Garrido into his office the next day. Garrido arrived with his wife, the children and a woman who initially identified herself as Allissa. She turned out to be Dugard and investigators said Garrido confessed to the kidnapping.
Monica Adams, 33, whose mother lives on their street, said she knew Phillip Garrido was a sex offender and that he had children living with him. Other neighbors knew, too, but they assumed police were keeping tabs on him.
"He never bothered any one, he kept to himself," Adams said. "What would we have done? You just watch your own."
Probyn said he was frustrated to find out that a car matching the description of the one he saw speeding Dugard away in the day she was kidnapped was found in the yard of Garrido's home. Nancy Garrido also fits the "dead-on" description he gave of the woman who pulled her into the car, he said.
"He had every break in the world," Probyn said of Garrido's close encounters with the law. |
The third largest crime committed here (after the obvious one and that of his wife in abetting him) is that the criminal justice system didn't see fit to keep him behind bars where he belonged, serving out the maximum sentence. As a repeat offender (as almost all sex offenders are if given the chance), he deserved no less.
Then there is the disgusting matter of the Keystone Cops who couldn't put two and two together in the county where he lived and the neighbors who sensed something was amiss but did nothing or deferred to their spouses rather than taking the initiative themselves.
This case and the one in Austria recently only serves to remind me of one of the things I like about living in East Asia. Had this occurred here, you can be sure the neighbors would have hounded this guy. They would have talked incessantly about the cries of children in the back yard and someone in a position to act would have.
Personally, I think the animal deserves a bullet to the head and his wife should be put behind bars for life. |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| ManintheMiddle wrote: |
| As a repeat offender (as almost all sex offenders are if given the chance), he deserved no less. |
You are seriously misinformed. I hope you will refrain from spreading misinformation in the future.
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| As a group, sex offenders have a lower rate of recidivism than people who commit other kinds of serious offenses. |
Johns Hopkins Professor of Psychiatry and Director of the Sexual Disorders Unit Dr. Fred Berlin
What can be done to stop predators?
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| Those convicted of sex crimes in Tennessee are significantly less likely to re-offend than other types of felons, according to a recent study that experts say confirms what they have known for more than a decade. |
Sex offender recidivism less than other felons'
| Associated Press on November 16, 2003 wrote: |
| Sex offenders are less likely to be rearrested after their release from prison than other criminals, a government study finds. The study found 5.3 percent of sex offenders were arrested for another sex crime after their release. [...] Still, the numbers appeared to dispute the popular notion that sex offenders are incorrigible. Even among child molesters, [...] only 3.3 percent of those released in 1994 were arrested again for a crime against a child. |
Re-arrest Less Likely for Sex Offenders
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A study of nearly 2,000 Alaska ex-cons challenges the widely held conviction that sex criminals are more likely to strike again than other lawbreakers when they get out of prison.
The study, by the Alaska Judicial Council, found that sex offenders are among the criminals least likely to get in trouble once they've done their time and been released.
The study says only 3 percent of sex offenders were convicted of another sex crime within three years of release from jail. |
Sexual crime studies shows repeats are low
| Andy Hudak in Daily Interlake on Jan 03, 2007 wrote: |
The actual statistic is a 3.8 percent re-offense rate over three years! This was also across ALL levels of risk. Montana's prison and outpatient programs have consistently demonstrated recidivism rates of less than 1 percent per year.
Let's support rational laws and interventions that are successful and based on scientific facts -- NOT the part of our brains that think black-and-white, deal with fear through punishment and repression, and is responsible for much of the prejudice and suffering in the world. |
| Amanda Rogers in The American Chronicle on September 13, 2007 wrote: |
| The notion that most sex offences are committed by strangers, that sex offenders have high rates of recidivism, and that treatment does not work is NOT supported by the extensive and growing body of research regarding registered sex offenders. Here is a glimpse of what these studies reveal, which proves that what is happening is the exact opposite of what the American people are repeatedly being told. |
Multiple State�s Sex Offender Recidivism Studies Expose Fraud Upon The American Public By Lawmakers And Mainstream Media
And from the US Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics' Recidivism of Sex Offenders Released from Prison in 1994 which presents, for the first time, data on the rearrest, reconviction, and reimprisonment of 9,691 male sex offenders, including 4,295 child molesters, who were tracked for 3 years after their release from prisons in 15 States in 1994. The 9,691 are two-thirds of all the male sex offenders released from prisons in the United States in 1994. The study represents the largest followup ever conducted of convicted sex offenders following discharge from prison and provides the most comprehensive assessment of their behavior after release:
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| Within 3 years following their release, 5.3% of sex offenders (men who had committed rape or sexual assault) were rearrested for another sex crime. |
Hardly "almost all." |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Maninthemiddle wrote: |
| ...the disgusting matter of the Keystone Cops who couldn't put two and two together in the county where he lived and the neighbors who sensed something was amiss but did nothing or deferred to their spouses rather than taking the initiative themselves. |
Police are damned if they do and damned if they do not these days, Maninthemiddle. Law-and-order people like you and I on one side, and the "don't taze me bro!" mob, such as the many libertarian police-haters who populate this board on the other.
I will fault the criminal-justice system and especially the courts and the bureacracy here, however. The judges, the parole board, the parole officer, and the police department systematically failed to protect this little girl from this monster.
I find it incredible that the man's parole officer would not get cc'd on the complaints and police activity at his house, and knowing what he should have known about his parolee's history, why he would simply have not taken a trip over to the man's house and asked to check out the backyard.
What the f, over?
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You seem to have an awful lot at stake in that issue, Bacasper. What gives? |
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bacasper
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| You seem to have an awful lot at stake in that issue, Bacasper. What gives? |
You mean you don't know my "predictable" response?
| Marty Klein wrote: |
| The regulation of sexuality is the gateway into both undermining secular democracy, and into using morality as the criterion for governance rather than secular pluralism. |
| Bennington College Professor Gladden Schrock wrote: |
| The current child sex abuse witchhunt is the third greatest and by far the largest in American history. |
Without completely hijacking the thread, not only have sex laws today gone way overboard, but they serve to further the agenda of the totalitarian state. Yes, I would/should have said "fascist," but then I have to deal with your "hyperbole" and others' Godwin accusations, but the truth is that a number of current sex laws are reminiscent of Nazi Germany, to wit:
The "travel abroad" laws invoke a principle of extraterritoriality first elaborated in the Nazi-era laws which prohibited criticizing the Fatherland from abroad. And some claim that civil commitment facilities for those who have completed their criminal sentences are today's equivalent of concentration camps.
Having treated a number of patients with paraphilias and often seen these laws do more harm than good, I have become sensitized to the issue.
Also, see my America's unjust sex laws thread. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Allow me to rephrase my question:
Has said fascist, totalitarian state charged you with this or that possibly related offense, Bacasper? |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
Allow me to rephrase my question:
Has said fascist, totalitarian state charged you with this or that possibly related offense, Bacasper? |
Way to hijack the thread Mr. Gopher. I'm glad to see that you don't let what happened to a young lady stop you from using it to advance your own agenda.
Very classy I must say.
Blade. |
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