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bry0000000



Joined: 30 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:40 am    Post subject: Made a student cry today Reply with quote

While teaching, one of my students kept mobbing me every time I got up to teach the class. Finally, I turned to shoo him away. I wasn't sure where he was, so I turned around and hit him on the face with the blunt side of a notebook. The book was just like one of the test taking booklets we used in college (the green exam books, pretty much just paper with a paper cover).

Anyway, he started crying and cried for a good twenty minutes. My co-teacher said it's ok and I didn't do anything wrong, but I still feel bad. Was I out of line?
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roadwork



Joined: 24 Nov 2008
Location: Goin' up the country

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:45 am    Post subject: Re: Made a student cry today Reply with quote

bry0000000 wrote:
While teaching, one of my students kept mobbing me every time I got up to teach the class. Finally, I turned to shoo him away. I wasn't sure where he was, so I turned around and hit him on the face with the blunt side of a notebook. The book was just like one of the test taking booklets we used in college (the green exam books, pretty much just paper with a paper cover).

Anyway, he started crying and cried for a good twenty minutes. My co-teacher said it's ok and I didn't do anything wrong, but I still feel bad. Was I out of line?


Hell no, if you don't make at least one student cry once a day, you're not teaching effectively.
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:00 am    Post subject: crying Reply with quote

When you get up to five, you'll be an ace. I'm up to 4 and one half.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were giving out books today and I was tossing them on to their tables from a meter or so away. One bounced and hit the kid right in the face , cried for 10 minutes or so then the same thing happened to another kid (who didn't cry), he stopped crying and started laughing. (yeah I stopped throwing books after that).

They cry easy, they stop crying easy. They're kids. They're like wives just don't leave bruises Laughing (too far I know)
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bry0000000



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically, stop being a Mod Edit and get back to work?
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you don't deliberately make them cry, but in your best efforts to educate them, things do happen. If they cry, show compassion but don't focus on the crier. Focus on the lesson.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andrewchon wrote:
Well, you don't deliberately make them cry, but in your best efforts to educate them, things do happen. If they cry, show compassion but don't focus on the crier. Focus on the lesson.


Yeees don't deliberately make them cry Laughing

If by chance you do make them cry make sure they are okay and then leave them alone. The longer you focus on them the more they will cry
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warren pease



Joined: 12 May 2008

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackjack wrote:
We were giving out books today and I was tossing them on to their tables from a meter or so away. One bounced and hit the kid right in the face , cried for 10 minutes or so then the same thing happened to another kid (who didn't cry), he stopped crying and started laughing. (yeah I stopped throwing books after that).

They cry easy, they stop crying easy. They're kids. They're like wives just don't leave bruises Laughing (too far I know)


Honest to God, one of my favorite games. After a couple months last year I could toss a journal three rows back with 90% accuracy.

I'm a year and a half in and have almost no sympathy for crying kids. Well, it's not that I don't feel bad but I've seen what happens when you freak out about a crying kid and coddle him vs just making a joke out of it and telling him to get over it. Kids are just forming their social perspective and if crying always bring affection, sympathy, and attention then kids are gonna cry themselves into whiny adults. IMHO
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jhuntingtonus



Joined: 09 Dec 2008
Location: Jeonju

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How old was this student? Second grade or below, I take it. If not, it's their problem, unless you really swatted them. Do you want to hit students at all? Many do, but I don't.
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lifeinkorea



Joined: 24 Jan 2009
Location: somewhere in China

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never touch kids. I point at them first to get their attention, if they don't want to be the center of attention then they usually do whatever I say. If they rebel or continue I walk closer, eventually yelling into their ear like a drill sargeant if need be. One kid was so trained by this, he wouldn't leave his seat, lol. Before, he would run around class bouncing off walls.
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Morning_Star



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

You people are horrible. You must've been abused as a child.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

Morning_Star wrote:
You people are horrible. You must've been abused as a child.


I think a lot of this is said tongue in cheek (well mine was)

Some times kids cry.
-You may accidentally stand on their foot
-throw them a pencil or eraser
-step back into them
-give them a bad mark
-ask them to answer a question
-look at them
-send them to their homeroom teacher
-threaten to call their parents
-give them homework
-make them move seats
-make them stay behind after class
-open a window
-move too quickly
-speak english
-speak korean
-sneeze

If you stop class and spend 10-20 minutes comforting the kid till they stop crying you will never get any work done, plus it teaches the kid that if they cry they get attention. If the kid is crying because of a physical reason you make sure nothing is broken or leaking out of them (apart from the eyes) and you get back to work
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andrewchon



Joined: 16 Nov 2008
Location: Back in Oz. Living in ISIS Aust.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a student who is brain damaged. This morning we're singing "Who is she? She's Julie. Julie is my friend." He starts crying. The rest of the class said the the song was too sad. So you can include:

-listen to 4th graders sing
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Morning_Star



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

blackjack wrote:
Morning_Star wrote:
You people are horrible. You must've been abused as a child.


I think a lot of this is said tongue in cheek (well mine was)

Some times kids cry.
-You may accidentally stand on their foot
-throw them a pencil or eraser
-step back into them
-give them a bad mark
-ask them to answer a question
-look at them
-send them to their homeroom teacher
-threaten to call their parents
-give them homework
-make them move seats
-make them stay behind after class
-open a window
-move too quickly
-speak english
-speak korean
-sneeze

If you stop class and spend 10-20 minutes comforting the kid till they stop crying you will never get any work done, plus it teaches the kid that if they cry they get attention. If the kid is crying because of a physical reason you make sure nothing is broken or leaking out of them (apart from the eyes) and you get back to work


I've only seen a teacher make a kid cry ONCE in the US (something accidental) and she took the kid out of the class to apologize. You guys are obviously scum.
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fermentation



Joined: 22 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Times have changed. My teacher whacked us in the face with his notebook for not doing homework.
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